Here We Go Again...Another House Allowed To Burn

[jlee]

I don't pay any "extra" to have the fire department respond if my house is on fire.

You are also not relying on some other city's fire department.

 

[BoomerD]

The government has failed these people, they should have the right to opt out.. By let's say not phoning the fire department, they should not need to opt in.

Are you really this stupid, or do you have to work at it?

These people live in an area not covered by a fire department...because they, as a group, voted not to fund a rural fire department.

The local city fire department has no obligation to put out fires outside the city limits, but as a humanitarian gesture, they've offered to provide service to anyone who signs up for the service and pays a token fee to help defray costs...costs otherwise paid by the city residents in their property taxes.

Would you expect the fire department from a couple of towns over to come put out a fire in your town?

I agree that they shouldn't have to opt in...they should be taxed in advance for the service to prevent such events...but, this is America where we have freedom of choice in many things...and when we choose wrong...oops.That wasn't supposed to happen to me.

 

[HAL9000]

Sure. Thankfully, you've finally decided to pay the Queen $50million instead of $100million a year. LOL, England.

Yep that's right we are paying the royal family a WHOPPING 62p per year per tax payer. I might tip them this year and give them £1. LOL, America.

 

[HAL9000]

Are you really this stupid, or do you have to work at it?

Had you started your post with a different sentence I might have read it.

 

[Lifted]

I'm talking about the government of the US A not local government.

That's why we don't have to pay specific taxes for the fire departments they are sorted out of other taxes. It's not all decentralised like this.

You should be thankful. You just learned something about America.

Federal gov provides defense and other "national' services, local gov provides the rest. It's up to the local people to decide which services they want to pay for.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I can't believe you had to answer that.

The level of stupid in this thread is through the roof.

Hey shithead, I pay a crapload in taxes but at least I have a fucking fire department. Are you telling me there are no taxes in Tennessee?

 

[HAL9000]

You should be thankful. You just learned something about America.

Federal gov provides defense and other "national' services, local gov provides the rest. It's up to the local people to decide which services they want to pay for.

Then that's a failure on the way the government has been set up in America. Certain things should be sorted... nationally.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Hey shithead, I pay a crapload in taxes but at least I have a fucking fire department. Are you telling me there are no taxes in Tennessee?

Please tell me you're trolling b/c I thought you were intelligent.

 

[Lifted]

Hey shithead, I pay a crapload in taxes but at least I have a fucking fire department. Are you telling me there are no taxes in Tennessee?

Are you telling me your fire department in San Diego is paid for with state taxes, and not local taxes?

Does the California Fire Department put our fires in your city?

 

[jlee]

Hey shithead, I pay a crapload in taxes but at least I have a fucking fire department. Are you telling me there are no taxes in Tennessee?

http://www.comptroller1.state.tn.us/pa/LR.asp?W=08

 

[sandorski]

Pretty sick to just stand there and watch it burn. Why bother showing up at all? Seems to be rubbing it in, should at least put out the fire and send a Bill.

 

[Via]

Nobody needs a lesson in government here, you morons.

The question is - is it right for firefighters to stand there while a poor person's only posessions burn to the ground.

No it's not.

 

[HAL9000]

I knew that you get charged for health care in america, but this is insane.

 

[Lifted]

Pretty sick to just stand there and watch it burn. Why bother showing up at all? Seems to be rubbing it in, should at least put out the fire and send a Bill.

They show up to

A) rescue people in need of help.

B) protect the neighbors who are smart enough to pay the fucking $75.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Then that's a failure on the way the government has been set up in America. Certain things should be sorted... nationally.

Well, a fire department probably shouldnt be national, but not county either.

Long story short here, you shouldnt be able to opt out of having a fire department.

What's next, opt out of having police?

Dumbasses.

 

[Lifted]

I knew that you get charged for health care in america, but this is insane.

So you get free health care huh?

How dumb can a thread get? Do I really have to teach you about your own country too?

 

[TallBill]

Then that's a failure on the way the government has been set up in America. Certain things should be sorted... nationally.

Lmao, setting up a national fire service would a a complete and total debacle.

 

[HAL9000]

Well, a fire department probably shouldnt be national, but not county either.

Long story short here, you shouldnt be able to opt out of having a fire department.

What's next, opt out of having police?

Dumbasses.

What I mean is, there should be national legislation that says everyone has the right to a fire department paid for by taxes, or that the fire department can't turn up and watch your house burn, or that the fire department can't charge you for their services etc etc etc

 

[zinfamous]

They shouldn't have that choice.

If they live in an urban area, in a multi-unit building, dense neighborhood, etc, then yeah--they shouldn't have that choice. Or, at least, the FD can focus on eveyrone else and only work on their property if it threatens anyone else.

But since they live out in the country, and chose not to participate, well this is the choice they make. We tend to let idiots live on like the idiots they want to be--and this is also why we established the Electoral College--to keep idiots from influencing anything.

well, that second part has obviously failed.

 

[jlee]

They show up to

A) rescue people in need of help.

B) protect the neighbors who are smart enough to pay the fucking $75.

Yep. If people were trapped inside, I have no doubt they would have intervened. They make a valid point - if everybody knew they would be covered whether or not they paid for it, why bother paying?

It'd be much smarter for the county to force everyone to pay for fire service, but apparently they've elected to do otherwise.

 

[BoomerD]

Pretty sick to just stand there and watch it burn. Why bother showing up at all? Seems to be rubbing it in, should at least put out the fire and send a Bill.

They were probably dispatched to make sure no lives were in danger and to protect the property of neighbors who had paid the fee.

Once again, the city has no legal authority to bill these rural homeowners for services, no legal authority to place liens on their property, and they have no legal obligation to put out their fires.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Please tell me you're trolling b/c I thought you were intelligent.

I guess TN is just all rural? No tax money to spend on stuff like fire departments? Do they just let the roads go to hell in those areas too? Are all the children home schooled?

Yet another reason not to live in middle amerika I guess.

 

[jlee]

What I mean is, there should be national legislation that says everyone has the right to a fire department paid for by taxes, or that the fire department can't turn up and watch your house burn, or that the fire department can't charge you for their services etc etc etc

Everyone has a "right" to a fire department that they don't pay for? Or are you saying there should be a federal mandate for all persons to have fire coverage regardless of location?

Have fun establishing fire departments in rural Alaska when you have $375 to build, equip, and hire staff for a fire department.

 

[HAL9000]

So you get free health care huh?

How dumb can a thread get? Do I really have to teach you about your own country too?

Not at all, I don't pay income tax, the only tax I really pay is value added tax. Which means that 20% of the money I spend on non-essentials goes to tax, That's really not that much. If you don't pay any tax... you get free healthcare. Health care is free, the more wealthy you get you start to pay for it. Win. Win.

Lmao, setting up a national fire service would a a complete and total debacle.

See my last post.

 

[Lifted]

Well, a fire department probably shouldnt be national, but not county either.

Long story short here, you shouldnt be able to opt out of having a fire department.

What's next, opt out of having police?

Dumbasses.

There are people who chose to live in the middle of nowhere, where the closest fire department is hours away. Do you think you and I should pay to have a fire department for the 500 people who decide to live out there?

The blue states send enough money to the red states as it is. I'm not paying for a fire department to be on standby outside every mobile home in bumbfucknowhereville.