Here comes Phenom

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: PCTC2
Actually, it is 2x 16x and 2x 8x slots, not 4x 16x PCIe.

Taken directly from the Gigabyte website:

Expansion Slots

1. 2 x PCI Express x16 slots (PCIE_16_A, PCIE_16_B) supporting ATI CrossFireX? technology (Note 3) (The PCI Express x16 slots conform to PCI Express 2.0 standard.)
2. 2 x PCI Express x8 slots (PCIE_8_A, PCIE_8_B) supporting ATI CrossFireX? technology
3. 1 x PCI Express x1 slot
4. 2 x PCI slots

Good catch...it appears to be a contradiction in their documentation because in the description section just above that it says:
"3. Quad PCI-E 2.0 x16 graphics interfaces with ATI CrossFireX? support for extreme gaming performance" as well...

thats because "Quad PCI-E 2.0 x16" is their "product brand" and not a "specification"...

Really? Cool info...thanks!

 

[taltamir]

I was joking... but it is probably true...
unless this was "an honest mistake where the people who designed the marketing slogans were misinformed about the true specs"... which I very much seriously doubt. then this is just one marketing excuse to explain why it deviates in such a manner.

 

[happy medium]

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: PCTC2
Actually, it is 2x 16x and 2x 8x slots, not 4x 16x PCIe.

Taken directly from the Gigabyte website:

Expansion Slots

1. 2 x PCI Express x16 slots (PCIE_16_A, PCIE_16_B) supporting ATI CrossFireX? technology (Note 3) (The PCI Express x16 slots conform to PCI Express 2.0 standard.)
2. 2 x PCI Express x8 slots (PCIE_8_A, PCIE_8_B) supporting ATI CrossFireX? technology
3. 1 x PCI Express x1 slot
4. 2 x PCI slots

Good catch...it appears to be a contradiction in their documentation because in the description section just above that it says:
"3. Quad PCI-E 2.0 x16 graphics interfaces with ATI CrossFireX? support for extreme gaming performance" as well...

thats because "Quad PCI-E 2.0 x16" is their "product brand" and not a "specification"...

Really? Cool info...thanks!

Correct me if i'm wrong ,but doesn't a pci-e x8 2.0 = a 16x pci-e 1.0. Are they the same amount of lanes?

 

[Phynaz]

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: bfdd
Viditor, so you're going to get one + a 280 dollar mobo without seeing any reviews on either before hand? What if they don't perform up to snuff with the q6600 stock to stock? When you could of picked up a q6600 and a good mobo a lot cheaper than that setup?

Ummm...that's not even close to what I said. What I said was:
"I think I'm going to wait till we see which rev it is and the reviews come up."

As to mobos, while I'm sure I could get a Phenom mobo FAR cheaper (if and when I get one), I really want to try the new Quad Crossfire out...

Warning, AMD has said Crossfire X drivers for 3 or 4 card configs will not be out until next year.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: happy medium

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: Viditor

Originally posted by: PCTC2
Actually, it is 2x 16x and 2x 8x slots, not 4x 16x PCIe.

Taken directly from the Gigabyte website:

Expansion Slots

1. 2 x PCI Express x16 slots (PCIE_16_A, PCIE_16_B) supporting ATI CrossFireX? technology (Note 3) (The PCI Express x16 slots conform to PCI Express 2.0 standard.)
2. 2 x PCI Express x8 slots (PCIE_8_A, PCIE_8_B) supporting ATI CrossFireX? technology
3. 1 x PCI Express x1 slot
4. 2 x PCI slots

Good catch...it appears to be a contradiction in their documentation because in the description section just above that it says:
"3. Quad PCI-E 2.0 x16 graphics interfaces with ATI CrossFireX? support for extreme gaming performance" as well...

thats because "Quad PCI-E 2.0 x16" is their "product brand" and not a "specification"...

Really? Cool info...thanks!

Correct me if i'm wrong ,but doesn't a pci-e x8 2.0 = a 16x pci-e 1.0. Are they the same amount of lanes?

The way it works is that a southbridge has X pcie lanes. (physical connections in the south bridge chip) which can be connected by the motherboard manufacturer in 1x, 4x, 8x, or 16x configurations. Video card slots typically have 4, 8, or 16 lanes attached to them, which transmit data in parallel.
pcie v2.0 has twice the bandwidth per lane... so each lane transmits twice the data per second.
This means 8 lanes of pcie2 transmit the same data as 16 lanes of pcie1. But the way it works is different.
pcie can be connected in a short, long, or video card type slot. But are not necessarily limited by device. Short and long ad compatible (so plugging a short device in a long slot will work, it will just underutilize it.. I THINK, but am not sure, that you could plug a long device into a short port and just have slower speed... but don't quote me on that)

The board in question has 49 pcie2 lanes. 1 going to a regular slot, and the rest split in a 16, 16, 8, 8 to the four video card slots. the two 8 lanes are as fast as a 16x pcie slot and the two 16 lanes one would be equivalent to 32x pcie1.
It is possible that the chipset has some more lanes that are just not utilized... boards have been known to use a north bridge that has some pcie lanes to get supposedly 16x on two video card slots, but those are slow as the data has to go from card A>north bridge>south bridge>card B. Instead of Card A>southbridge>Card B (and vice versa). And it also bogs down the computers bus slowing down other communication.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: The Keeper
http://www.techspot.com/news/2...or-pricing-update.html

Damn, Phenom 9500 is attractive if it sells that low...

Keep in mind that those are volume prices. Retail will be higher, at least initially. If they sell poorly prices will have to drop at some point.

 

[taltamir]

mmm... I think I will be buying a 3.2ghz windsor when phenom comes out. The phenom is simply too slowly clocked, and 4 cores don't help me at ALL considering nothing I have even uses 2 cores...

 

[DrMrLordX]

I am somewhat disappointed that they are not releasing Phenom X2s in '07. I'd really like to play with one of those, especially one of the stripped-down Rana chips (no L3 cache).