Here come the sin taxes in MA...

bozack

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http://www.boston.com/news/loc...1/patrick_propose.html

Governor Deval Patrick, in response to the state's fiscal crisis, issued proposals this morning that would raise taxes and fees on everything from meals and hotel rooms to alcohol and soft drinks, dig deeply into state reserves, and rely on an anticipated infusion of federal money.

Patrick?s $28 billion budget proposal for the next fiscal year is about $200 million less than the budget lawmakers approved this year. It would be only the second time in recent memory that the budget decreased from year to year.

"Taken together, these measures are right and necessary steps to get us through these difficult times," Patrick said at a State House press conference.

The governor's Fiscal Year 2010 budget would raise $587 million through a variety of new taxes and fees on Massachusetts residents and visitors. The governor said he recognized that increasing taxes and fees is difficult, but he said the alternative was worse.

"I have looked at what the impact would be if we went deeper in terms of cutting services," Patrick said.

In addition to announcing his budget proposal for next fiscal year -- which would be implemented in July and needs to be approved by the House and the Senate -- Patrick also put forward his plan for addressing a $1.1 billion midyear gap in the current fiscal year's budget.

His immediate emergency budget plan includes slicing $63 million from state government spending and cutting $128 million from local aid, which will force local officials to close public schools, curtail library hours, and lay off teachers, police, and firefighters. Patrick plans to withdraw $327 million from the state rainy day fund and is anticipating $533 million in federal bailout money.

His budget proposal for next year also relies heavily on using state reserves and a federal stimulus that has yet to be approved by Congress.

To make up for the shortfall in revenue ? and avoid further budget cuts ? Patrick is proposing a slew of new taxes and fee increases. Those plans include:

Meals tax -- increase the statewide meals tax by 1 percentage point, to 6 percent.

Hotel tax ? increase the statewide hotel tax by 1 percentage point, to 6.75 percent. Combined with the meals tax, it would raise $148 million.

Alcohol tax ? eliminate a tax exemption on sales of alcohol, soda, and candy. Currently, food sold outside of restaurants is exempt from the state?s 5 percent sales tax. The exemption would raise $150 million.

RMV fees ? increase a variety of fees that residents pay when they go to the Registry of Motor Vehicles. All told, $75 million would be raised. The cost of registering a car would rise from $41 to $50; renewing a license would rise from $8 to $10, and getting a title for a car would rise from $50 to $75.

Telecommunication tax ? eliminate a tax exemption for telecommunications companies, which would raise about $50 million.

Bottle deposit fees ? the state?s 5-cent charge on carbonated sodas, beer, and malt beverages would be expanded to also include noncarbonated beverages like sports drinks, water, and juices. It would raise $20 million.

Early reaction to the plan was mixed.

Michael Widmer, president of the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, applauded the governor and said he had ?made the best of a very difficult situation.?

Republicans panned the budget for its tax increase proposals.

?Governor Patrick ran on the platform of reform, but instead he's giving Massachusetts families tax increases that will strangle the economy and budget cuts that will hurt families,? Jennifer Nassour, chairwoman of the Massachusetts Republican Party, said in a statement. ?With unemployment nearly 7 percent and 17,000 people laid off last month, the absolute last thing we need is to increase taxes.?

This is classic...

So they argued in Nov that "we" shouldn't eliminate the state income tax because critical social service positions would be cut if this happened, and that if "we" voted it down those jobs would be "safe"....and everyone like the good sheep they are voted against killing the income tax and allowing our bloated corrupt government to continue on business as usual...and now they are saying that these jobs are going to be cut anyway, and also they are going to punish the middle/lower classes by taxing foods and drinks that they are most likely heavy consumers of...

Too funny...way to go Free Em All Deval, and to think I voted for this moron.
 

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Cutting spending by under 1% then? Haha, fantastic. Talk about making sacrifices *rolls eyes*
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Cutting spending by under 1% then? Haha, fantastic. Talk about making sacrifices *rolls eyes*

Yeah but think about in terms of your typical big govt douchebag. A 1% cut is more like a 8-11% cut because they want govt to grow between 7-10% a year.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: bozack
http://www.boston.com/news/loc...1/patrick_propose.html

Governor Deval Patrick, in response to the state's fiscal crisis, issued proposals this morning that would raise taxes and fees on everything from meals and hotel rooms to alcohol and soft drinks, dig deeply into state reserves, and rely on an anticipated infusion of federal money.

Patrick?s $28 billion budget proposal for the next fiscal year is about $200 million less than the budget lawmakers approved this year. It would be only the second time in recent memory that the budget decreased from year to year.

"Taken together, these measures are right and necessary steps to get us through these difficult times," Patrick said at a State House press conference.

The governor's Fiscal Year 2010 budget would raise $587 million through a variety of new taxes and fees on Massachusetts residents and visitors. The governor said he recognized that increasing taxes and fees is difficult, but he said the alternative was worse.

"I have looked at what the impact would be if we went deeper in terms of cutting services," Patrick said.

In addition to announcing his budget proposal for next fiscal year -- which would be implemented in July and needs to be approved by the House and the Senate -- Patrick also put forward his plan for addressing a $1.1 billion midyear gap in the current fiscal year's budget.

His immediate emergency budget plan includes slicing $63 million from state government spending and cutting $128 million from local aid, which will force local officials to close public schools, curtail library hours, and lay off teachers, police, and firefighters. Patrick plans to withdraw $327 million from the state rainy day fund and is anticipating $533 million in federal bailout money.

His budget proposal for next year also relies heavily on using state reserves and a federal stimulus that has yet to be approved by Congress.

To make up for the shortfall in revenue ? and avoid further budget cuts ? Patrick is proposing a slew of new taxes and fee increases. Those plans include:

Meals tax -- increase the statewide meals tax by 1 percentage point, to 6 percent.

Hotel tax ? increase the statewide hotel tax by 1 percentage point, to 6.75 percent. Combined with the meals tax, it would raise $148 million.

Alcohol tax ? eliminate a tax exemption on sales of alcohol, soda, and candy. Currently, food sold outside of restaurants is exempt from the state?s 5 percent sales tax. The exemption would raise $150 million.

RMV fees ? increase a variety of fees that residents pay when they go to the Registry of Motor Vehicles. All told, $75 million would be raised. The cost of registering a car would rise from $41 to $50; renewing a license would rise from $8 to $10, and getting a title for a car would rise from $50 to $75.

Telecommunication tax ? eliminate a tax exemption for telecommunications companies, which would raise about $50 million.

Bottle deposit fees ? the state?s 5-cent charge on carbonated sodas, beer, and malt beverages would be expanded to also include noncarbonated beverages like sports drinks, water, and juices. It would raise $20 million.

Early reaction to the plan was mixed.

Michael Widmer, president of the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, applauded the governor and said he had ?made the best of a very difficult situation.?

Republicans panned the budget for its tax increase proposals.

?Governor Patrick ran on the platform of reform, but instead he's giving Massachusetts families tax increases that will strangle the economy and budget cuts that will hurt families,? Jennifer Nassour, chairwoman of the Massachusetts Republican Party, said in a statement. ?With unemployment nearly 7 percent and 17,000 people laid off last month, the absolute last thing we need is to increase taxes.?

This is classic...

So they argued in Nov that "we" shouldn't eliminate the state income tax because critical social service positions would be cut if this happened, and that if "we" voted it down those jobs would be "safe"....and everyone like the good sheep they are voted against killing the income tax and allowing our bloated corrupt government to continue on business as usual...and now they are saying that these jobs are going to be cut anyway, and also they are going to punish the middle/lower classes by taxing foods and drinks that they are most likely heavy consumers of...

Too funny...way to go Free Em All Deval, and to think I voted for this moron.
Imagine how bad it would be if the Income Tax was done away with.

You want your roads cleared of snow and salted, well we'll need to have money to pay for it. Where's it going to come from?

There's one tax they are pushing that I'm against, the Gasoline tax or added tax. This so so the Tolls at the Turnpikes won't be raised. Fuck that, I don't use the Turnpikes. You know who does? Out of state residents who work in MA. Fuck them

BTW a lot of this deficit is the result of Romneys terms as Governor.

 

Strk

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Cutting spending by under 1% then? Haha, fantastic. Talk about making sacrifices *rolls eyes*

Yeah but think about in terms of your typical big govt douchebag. A 1% cut is more like a 8-11% cut because they want govt to grow between 7-10% a year.

Oddly enough, that's kind of true. A 1% cut does sound small, but considering government typically grows, that's not bad. I'd love to see a 1% cut in the federal government.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: bozack
http://www.boston.com/news/loc...1/patrick_propose.html

Governor Deval Patrick, ....

This is classic...

So they argued in Nov that "we" shouldn't eliminate the state income tax because critical social service positions would be cut if this happened, and that if "we" voted it down those jobs would be "safe"....and everyone like the good sheep they are voted against killing the income tax and allowing our bloated corrupt government to continue on business as usual...and now they are saying that these jobs are going to be cut anyway, and also they are going to punish the middle/lower classes by taxing foods and drinks that they are most likely heavy consumers of...

Too funny...way to go Free Em All Deval, and to think I voted for this moron.
Imagine how bad it would be if the Income Tax was done away with.

You want your roads cleared of snow and salted, well we'll need to have money to pay for it. Where's it going to come from?

There's one tax they are pushing that I'm against, the Gasoline tax or added tax. This so so the Tolls at the Turnpikes won't be raised. Fuck that, I don't use the Turnpikes. You know who does? Out of state residents who work in MA. Fuck them

BTW a lot of this deficit is the result of Romneys terms as Governor.

 

sactoking

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Ahh, good ol' Taxachusetts. Does nothing change?

Also, the theory that a 1% cut is really bigger because it should be growing by some made up number is like saying that at least you got the reach around while you were getting reamed.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: sactoking
Ahh, good ol' Taxachusetts. Does nothing change?
Yeah they are ranked 23 amongst the states for tax burden. It's hard to have first class services when the tax burden is that of a Rube State like North Carolina that's why there's a 2.1 Billion Dollar deficit. Now services are being cut and jobs are disappearing.The Hospital Group my wife works for is cutting many programs which leave those most at risk at even more risk, not to mention many lost positions. Luckily my wife was able to keep hers. Many Cities here are going to have to lay off workers, teachers, enlarge class sizes, cut Libraries or at last days they are open, do away with plowing off streets of snow and so forth.

 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Imagine how bad it would be if the Income Tax was done away with.

You want your roads cleared of snow and salted, well we'll need to have money to pay for it. Where's it going to come from?

There's one tax they are pushing that I'm against, the Gasoline tax or added tax. This so so the Tolls at the Turnpikes won't be raised. Fuck that, I don't use the Turnpikes. You know who does? Out of state residents who work in MA. Fuck them

BTW a lot of this deficit is the result of Romneys terms as Governor.

Hmm, NH seems to do fine in this regard, then again in MA I bet you are right since the unions beat the crap out of us here...I have yet to see one single "flag guy" in place of the 200K/year cop detail. They could have just jacked sales tax...but no, MA would rather get you from the front and the rear.

Funny you are against the gas tax as that seems like it has the most success of passing, NH and RI have also said that if we start installing tolls on the borders then they will follow suit and it will become a toll war so highly unlikely that will happen, and if they jack the toll costs you can be sure more people will clog up all the other roads to avoid the charge.

And with Romney, he was a lone voice in this land of lunacy....most of the expenses that came under his term he was forced by the democratic majority to take on...just like the mass bastardization of universal health care, force those who can barely afford the expense to pay up the wazoo just so the totally useless portion of society gets something for free.

I seriously doubt we will stay middle of the road in tax burden for long Red...with free em all deval at the helm it is only a matter of time before everyone here is poor.
 

Thump553

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NH has insanely high property taxes. I looked into buying a vacation cottage there-worth a quarter what my house is worth with taxes more than twice as high.

Those tax increases don't seem all that onerous to me, certainly not out of line with what we have in CT. But I don't see how expanding the bottle deposit law will raise revenue.

I saw a stat the other day that something like 47 or 48 states are headed for a serious shortfall this year (including the oil welfare state of Alaska). Nearly all of them are going to be cutting services and raising taxes. Gov. Patrick is certainly not unique in his proposed strategy-no one likes it, but sometimes it is necessary. Hopefully the cutbacks on the state side will not negate the stimulus spending being done by the feds.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Imagine how bad it would be if the Income Tax was done away with.

You want your roads cleared of snow and salted, well we'll need to have money to pay for it. Where's it going to come from?

There's one tax they are pushing that I'm against, the Gasoline tax or added tax. This so so the Tolls at the Turnpikes won't be raised. Fuck that, I don't use the Turnpikes. You know who does? Out of state residents who work in MA. Fuck them

BTW a lot of this deficit is the result of Romneys terms as Governor.

Hmm, NH seems to do fine in this regard,[/b] NH is a podunk state with massive property taxes


then again in MA I bet you are right since the unions beat the crap out of us here...I have yet to see one single "flag guy" in place of the 200K/year cop detail. They could have just jacked sales tax...but no, MA would rather get you from the front and the rear.
I dunno Matt, you seem to want the services but don't want to pay for it.
Funny you are against the gas tax as that seems like it has the most success of passing, NH and RI have also said that if we start installing tolls on the borders then they will follow suit and it will become a toll war so highly unlikely that will happen, and if they jack the toll costs you can be sure more people will clog up all the other roads to avoid the charge.

And with Romney, he was a lone voice in this land of lunacy....most of the expenses that came under his term he was forced by the democratic majority to take on...just like the mass bastardization of universal health care, force those who can barely afford the expense to pay up the wazoo just so the totally useless portion of society gets something for free.
More like groups like the Partners and Blue Cross were colluding to jack the State out of big bucks. Can you spell collusion?





I seriously doubt we will stay middle of the road in tax burden for long Red...with free em all deval at the helm it is only a matter of time before everyone here is poor.
No, but we'll have to pay for the services we are use to or do without. Are you willing to drive your kids to school through unplowed and unsalted streets?

Peace Matt:thumbsup:
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
NH is a podunk state with massive property taxes

I dunno Matt, you seem to want the services but don't want to pay for it.

More like groups like the Partners and Blue Cross were colluding to jack the State out of big bucks. Can you spell collusion?

No, but we'll have to pay for the services we are use to or do without. Are you willing to drive your kids to school through unplowed and unsalted streets?

Peace Matt:thumbsup:

Hmm Red, I don't recall ever posting a single thing praising any services here in MA, if anything I think the DOT is pretty horrible, roads by me in snowy weather suck, as do all of the towns I drive through to get to work (Winchester, Malden, Cambridge (the worst and their sidewalks are laughable at how awful they are)...

I have yet to see a "service" that I think is decent in this state...sure my power is always on but even that was a challenge for many recently.

Every other service doesn't do JS for me...cops that pull people over simply to pull in revinue, road crews that do nothing other than stand around...whoop.

Also with the property taxes, don't know about you but personally I would much rather kill income tax and have them jack prop taxes...at least I would know that the money would be going to my town and of direct benefit to "me"...with income tax it goes up to the state, gets ciphoned off for mostly pork and bribes, and the pennies that come back to the town can maybe buy a postage stamp.

As for the heathcare thing...well really I blame the dems of the state for that, they should have known that cross and pants em partners would give them the shaft if given the opportunity...but the state wanted to be cutting edge and progressive with its healthcare plan, and really what do the loonbag libs care anyway as the only people who really "suffer" are the middle income contract workers...so long as the no income welfare folks get their handout then everyone here is happy.

Then again maybe I should just stop wishing I was somewhere else....get a job with some bullshit agency like Massport, do virtually no work and just drink my dunks all day and play scratch tickets...woo hoo.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Imagine how bad it would be if the Income Tax was done away with.

You want your roads cleared of snow and salted, well we'll need to have money to pay for it. Where's it going to come from?

There's one tax they are pushing that I'm against, the Gasoline tax or added tax. This so so the Tolls at the Turnpikes won't be raised. Fuck that, I don't use the Turnpikes. You know who does? Out of state residents who work in MA. Fuck them

BTW a lot of this deficit is the result of Romneys terms as Governor.

:thumbsup: And you forgot to mention, we'll still have the best schools in the country.

Kind of sad, when the biggest complainer can't even convince their wife to move to NH.

 

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They could probably institute a tax on bribe money that democrats receive. That would see some real $$$ collected.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
They could probably institute a tax on bribe money that democrats receive. That would see some real $$$ collected.

Nah the politicians here in Massofbullshit can be bought off cheap.
 

Thump553

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
They could probably institute a tax on bribe money that democrats receive. That would see some real $$$ collected.

Nah the politicians here in Massofbullshit can be bought off cheap.

But it would be a steady cash flow at least.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Strk
Oddly enough, that's kind of true. A 1% cut does sound small, but considering government typically grows, that's not bad. I'd love to see a 1% cut in the federal government.

I'd love to see pigs fly too.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

:thumbsup: And you forgot to mention, we'll still have the best schools in the country.

Kind of sad, when the biggest complainer can't even convince their wife to move to NH.

What surprises me is that you have enough time to get away from your socialist circle jerk in the peoples republic to even bother to post...

Any way in this utopian city you can spend some of that money on cleaning the damn sidewalks or repairing the horrible roads??

And your best school statement is pretty broad...care to post some proof for that or should we also take a sip of the kool aid.

Way to be caveman, if I ever want the token liberal stupid ass-mass answer I know where to look.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

:thumbsup: And you forgot to mention, we'll still have the best schools in the country.

Kind of sad, when the biggest complainer can't even convince their wife to move to NH.

What surprises me is that you have enough time to get away from your socialist circle jerk in the peoples republic to even bother to post...

Any way in this utopian city you can spend some of that money on cleaning the damn sidewalks or repairing the horrible roads??

And your best school statement is pretty broad...care to post some proof for that or should we also take a sip of the kool aid.

Way to be caveman, if I ever want the token liberal stupid ass-mass answer I know where to look.

:laugh: I used to feel sorry for you but now I realize you deserve your bitterness.

Are you happy about anything in this state? Why can't you convince your wife to leave? Possibly b/c she sees through your weak ignorant crying, like we do here. Bitch about the state that you live in and the city that you work in. Are you such a sourpuss at work and at home? Life is too short to be bitter and live/work in a place that you hate.

I love how you rag on me and Cambridge. I suggest that you seek counseling about your inferiority complex. What roads need repair? Have you complained to the city/police about the sidewalks? Are all of the sidewalks clean in Woburn? Or do you bitch only about Cambridge and not Woburn? Was Cambridge the only place where the temperature dropped low enough to freeze everything after the snow/rain storm this week?

MA Ranked #1 in High Schools Research the article and you'll notice Belmont ranked in the top 100 High Schools in the country with Winchester and Lexington ranked further behind. Pwn'd
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
:laugh: I used to feel sorry for you but now I realize you deserve your bitterness.

Are you happy about anything in this state? Why can't you convince your wife to leave? Possibly b/c she sees through your weak ignorant crying, like we do here. Bitch about the state that you live in and the city that you work in. Are you such a sourpuss at work and at home? Life is too short to be bitter and live/work in a place that you hate.

I love how you rag on me and Cambridge. I suggest that you seek counseling about your inferiority complex. What roads need repair? Have you complained to the city/police about the sidewalks? Are all of the sidewalks clean in Woburn? Or do you bitch only about Cambridge and not Woburn? Was Cambridge the only place where the temperature dropped low enough to freeze everything after the snow/rain storm this week?

MA Ranked #1 in High Schools Research the article and you'll notice Belmont ranked in the top 100 High Schools in the country with Winchester and Lexington ranked further behind. Pwn'd

There is your problem, why feel sorry for me...because I don't agree with the socialist liberal nutjobs like yourself that are the majority in this state and because I would rather be somewhere else? please life is full of disappointment and I have no problems with my situation other than the fact I am surrounded by boobs such as yourself in this place, thankfully most people I work with directly are similar to my beliefs so that makes it a bit more palatable.

I like my job, and thankfully they are looking to leave cambridge...it will mean a slightly longer commute, but in a better area and anything to get away from the communists here like you.

As for my wife....well she likes her job so who am I to force her to leave or deal with a longer commute..I would rather suffer as it is only having to listen to drivel

I also love it how you think your important enough here to use the "we" in your lame ass reply...sheer arrogance, something Cambridge dwellers are known for...same with your confusiocus esque musing on life being short...give me a break.

About towns, what I truly find funny is that yes, the roads and sidewalks in Woburn put the affluent communities to shame, cambridge sucks in this regard (and most others) and it is pretty laughable.

And now your being specific and saying high schools....so before it was "mass has the best schools" and now it is just "this one link says mass has the best high schools"

Like I said, you're so happy stroking everyone in cambridge why don't you and your psychologist wife and die hard republican father in law keep to yourselves, you'd think that would make for enough drama in your life :)
 

Capt Caveman

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'We' demonstrates arrogance? Seems like plenty of people disagree with your weak sauce arguments also. Must suck knowing that everything single person/issue you voted on in November lost. :p

And please stop talking out of your arse. Had to go from Winchester to Reading today. Drove thru Woburn and to my surprise the majority of sidewalks weren't even plowed along Washington St, a major road. People were walking in the street on Washington St slowing down traffic. The 128 overpass had about 2 feet of snow on it's uncleared sidewalks. Winchester and Reading were in better condition.

Just got back from running thru Harvard Sq, Central Sq, MIT, Kendall Sq, Musuem of Science then along the River. Outside of a few spots (Long Fellow Bridge and BU Bridge), the sidewalks were in great condition. Had a nice ten foot wide cleared sidewalk the majority of the way. I'm guessing if I had to run in Woburn I would have had to stick to the streets. :p

From the info you've given, you work at Vertex Pharmaceuticals don't you? I guess you don't keep up with the latest news - Vertex extends Cambridge leases. :p

I guess I'm stuck dealing with your inferiority complex for another 5 years. But I guess I can look on the good side, Vertex and your employment here, keeps my property tax rate lower than Woburn. :p

Keep to ourselves? You're the one bitching and crying. I'm just here to correct your sourpuss ignorance. Outside of your sidewalks from my observation today, I don't bad mouth Woburn(I love Lowes) or people that live there except yourself. But you'll bad mouth everyone in Cambridge, talk about how you want to drive over pedestrians crossing the streets, yet you work here. You'd think that if MA was such a lousy place, you and your wife would be able to find better jobs in NH.

Seriously, seek some professional help. Life is too short to be so bitter and miserable.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
'We' demonstrates arrogance? Seems like plenty of people disagree with your weak sauce arguments also. Must suck knowing that everything single person/issue you voted on in November lost. :p

And please stop talking out of your arse. Had to go from Winchester to Reading today. Drove thru Woburn and to my surprise the majority of sidewalks weren't even plowed along Washington St, a major road. People were walking in the street on Washington St slowing down traffic. The 128 overpass had about 2 feet of snow on it's uncleared sidewalks. Winchester and Reading were in better condition.

Just got back from running thru Harvard Sq, Central Sq, MIT, Kendall Sq, Musuem of Science then along the River. Outside of a few spots (Long Fellow Bridge and BU Bridge), the sidewalks were in great condition. Had a nice ten foot wide cleared sidewalk the majority of the way. I'm guessing if I had to run in Woburn I would have had to stick to the streets. :p

From the info you've given, you work at Vertex Pharmaceuticals don't you? I guess you don't keep up with the latest news - Vertex extends Cambridge leases. :p

I guess I'm stuck dealing with your inferiority complex for another 5 years. But I guess I can look on the good side, Vertex and your employment here, keeps my property tax rate lower than Woburn. :p

Keep to ourselves? You're the one bitching and crying. I'm just here to correct your sourpuss ignorance. Outside of your sidewalks from my observation today, I don't bad mouth Woburn(I love Lowes) or people that live there except yourself. But you'll bad mouth everyone in Cambridge, talk about how you want to drive over pedestrians crossing the streets, yet you work here. You'd think that if MA was such a lousy place, you and your wife would be able to find better jobs in NH.

Seriously, seek some professional help. Life is too short to be so bitter and miserable.
Well you have to admit that you Massholes drive like Douchebags. Worse drivers I've ever encountered.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
'We' demonstrates arrogance? Seems like plenty of people disagree with your weak sauce arguments also. Must suck knowing that everything single person/issue you voted on in November lost. :p

And please stop talking out of your arse. Had to go from Winchester to Reading today. Drove thru Woburn and to my surprise the majority of sidewalks weren't even plowed along Washington St, a major road. People were walking in the street on Washington St slowing down traffic. The 128 overpass had about 2 feet of snow on it's uncleared sidewalks. Winchester and Reading were in better condition.

Just got back from running thru Harvard Sq, Central Sq, MIT, Kendall Sq, Musuem of Science then along the River. Outside of a few spots (Long Fellow Bridge and BU Bridge), the sidewalks were in great condition. Had a nice ten foot wide cleared sidewalk the majority of the way. I'm guessing if I had to run in Woburn I would have had to stick to the streets. :p

From the info you've given, you work at Vertex Pharmaceuticals don't you? I guess you don't keep up with the latest news - Vertex extends Cambridge leases. :p

I guess I'm stuck dealing with your inferiority complex for another 5 years. But I guess I can look on the good side, Vertex and your employment here, keeps my property tax rate lower than Woburn. :p

Keep to ourselves? You're the one bitching and crying. I'm just here to correct your sourpuss ignorance. Outside of your sidewalks from my observation today, I don't bad mouth Woburn(I love Lowes) or people that live there except yourself. But you'll bad mouth everyone in Cambridge, talk about how you want to drive over pedestrians crossing the streets, yet you work here. You'd think that if MA was such a lousy place, you and your wife would be able to find better jobs in NH.

Seriously, seek some professional help. Life is too short to be so bitter and miserable.
Well you have to admit that you Massholes drive like Douchebags. Worse drivers I've ever encountered.
Haven't run into any new yorkers yet? :)

 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well you have to admit that you Massholes drive like Douchebags. Worse drivers I've ever encountered.

You won't find me disagreeing with that statement. Though, I've witnessed some challengers in NYC, Chicago and CA.