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Here come the Mexicans!!

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Link to story Sorry but I couldn't find a link to the story about the incursion that happened last Friday.

Time to really shut down the border with Mexico, put the Army there, and start shooting to kill anyone who comes across. Shooting at our border patrol, over 200 incidents like this in the last 5 years? Unforgivable!!
 
Thats seriously angers me Im half white and half hispanic and live in a dominatingly hispanic city around here by la the community here seriously makes me feel like i dont belong here.
 
If only some of you know the story once they actually _cross_ the border, its not exactly paraside. I know several illegals , mostly because of a lower class apartment complex down the street, and most of them get paid dirt for heavy labor. I'm not trying to justify them crossing illegaly, I do think its unacceptable, its just that some people get so mad because they actually get thru the border yet they don't know the real problem, which is surviving. This 16 year old boy I know works at a tex- mex (I say tex mex because the owners are white and most of the food is canned crap 😛) restuarant as a bus boy making 1.50 an hour. Can't complain or their boss calls immigration. His older brother works as a construction worker in the same situation making 5.50 an hour working from 7am to 7 at night laying cement, welding, and house construction. They come to survive because as Dedpuhl said, its mostly dirt over there and they are tired of building sand castles.
 
Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Maybe the Mexicans should fix their own crappy country before they try to help us fix ours.
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Fix it with what? All they have is sand...
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Never been to mexico eh? 😉

Land use:
Arable land: 12%
permanent crops: 1%
permanent pastures: 39%
forests and woodland: 26%
other: 22%
-- CIA

And of course we should arm our border patrol and make the fence so you can't get through it. It doesnt effect me very much since I am not in a boarder state, so I really don't share the same anger taht you do but it is understadable.

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Attracted Good point, Ne0 AsSaSiN. I think you a lot of people treat them as free loaders. Yet they work two jobs, seven days a week, use 1/20 of the electricity that someone on AT would use, and are very minimalist.
 
I grew up in southern California and had a lot of Hispanic friends (both Mexican and otherwise) and they all agreed that illegal immigration was a problem...

BTW, I'd prefer they beef up border patrol to activating Army Reservists/National Guardsmen...
 
Forget the illegals for a moment. The issue here is foreign miltary personnel using our Border Patrol agents as skeet on our side of the f@cking border. If I was in charge there would be such an ambush set-up that "international incident" wouldn't begin to describe the scene.

 
why do ATOT members complain and hate everyone. I've seen my share or bad and good people from every race but it's hypocrisy for anyone but native americans to complain about people coming over and horning in on their land. What's wrong with people working to the bone to lift themselves and their families. While driving in my car in some parts of cities I've seen little old hispanic and asian women and men carrying lunch pails chasing buses to get to work or school. I've got a lot more respect for them than the upper middle class punks who have everything handed to them yet still somehow f!@kup.
 
They are the VICTIMS OF LABOR ALONG TIME AGO THERE WAS NICE UNIONS AND EVERYONE GOT A CERT OR DEGREE DOING SOMETHING AND ALL GOT PAID THE SAME BUT THEN HERE CAME THE CHEAP LABOR IMMIGRANTS WHO DID IT FOR CHEAPER AND CHEAPER TILL THEY TOOK BUISSNESS AWAY FROM AMERICAN LABORERS AND UNIONS AND NOW IN THE YEAR 2002 THE IMMIGRANTS ARE FIGHTING FOR UNIONS AND EQUALITY HMM...IF THEY WOULD OF PLAYED FAIR FROM THE BEGINING IT WOULDNT HAVE GOT TO THIS POINT
 
the mexican govt says that the police and soliders down there are not helping huh? well i watched an 'MSNBC Investigates' show the other night and one of the "coyotes" was saying that he pays off the mexican federales so they turn the other way.
 
Originally posted by: holden j caufield
why do ATOT members complain and hate everyone. I've seen my share or bad and good people from every race but it's hypocrisy for anyone but native americans to complain about people coming over and horning in on their land. What's wrong with people working to the bone to lift themselves and their families. While driving in my car in some parts of cities I've seen little old hispanic and asian women and men carrying lunch pails chasing buses to get to work or school. I've got a lot more respect for them than the upper middle class punks who have everything handed to them yet still somehow f!@kup.
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So, in your estimation, I'm wrong for being upset the mexican military and federali's are illegaly crossing the border to protect drug smugglers and "coyotes" by shooting at our federal agents ?

 
There is no doubt in my mind that a referendum to the people on whether or not to construct a wall along our southern border would pass without much of a contest. Yet the politicians never ask those hard questions of themselves or each other.
 
They are the VICTIMS OF LABOR ALONG TIME AGO THERE WAS NICE UNIONS AND EVERYONE GOT A CERT OR DEGREE DOING SOMETHING AND ALL GOT PAID THE SAME BUT THEN HERE CAME THE CHEAP LABOR IMMIGRANTS WHO DID IT FOR CHEAPER AND CHEAPER TILL THEY TOOK BUISSNESS AWAY FROM AMERICAN LABORERS AND UNIONS AND NOW IN THE YEAR 2002 THE IMMIGRANTS ARE FIGHTING FOR UNIONS AND EQUALITY HMM...IF THEY WOULD OF PLAYED FAIR FROM THE BEGINING IT WOULDNT HAVE GOT TO THIS POINT

Wow. Just wow. BTW, I liked your Mario essay.
 
Originally posted by: saftey
They are the VICTIMS OF LABOR ALONG TIME AGO THERE WAS NICE UNIONS AND EVERYONE GOT A CERT OR DEGREE DOING SOMETHING AND ALL GOT PAID THE SAME BUT THEN HERE CAME THE CHEAP LABOR IMMIGRANTS WHO DID IT FOR CHEAPER AND CHEAPER TILL THEY TOOK BUISSNESS AWAY FROM AMERICAN LABORERS AND UNIONS AND NOW IN THE YEAR 2002 THE IMMIGRANTS ARE FIGHTING FOR UNIONS AND EQUALITY HMM...IF THEY WOULD OF PLAYED FAIR FROM THE BEGINING IT WOULDNT HAVE GOT TO THIS POINT
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tell us how you really feel?
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holden j caufield

why do ATOT members complain and hate everyone. I've seen my share or bad and good people from every race but it's hypocrisy for anyone but native americans to complain about people coming over and horning in on their land. What's wrong with people working to the bone to lift themselves and their families. While driving in my car in some parts of cities I've seen little old hispanic and asian women and men carrying lunch pails chasing buses to get to work or school. I've got a lot more respect for them than the upper middle class punks who have everything handed to them yet still somehow f!@kup.
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I couldn't agree with you more. A little less hate, or at least make your hatred valid by hating the enemy of America, not those who hunger to be American and share in this freedom. The Mexicans you folks are talking about come here to work and work hard to escape a dead end poverty way of life from where they came from, and they all work their asses off to do jobs most any white boy would shun.

Granted, there is a frustrated elelment that does do crime and contributes little other than its own brand of hate and gang warfare. But part of that is defense, and a big part is a cultural difference and show of solidarity with thier culture. Every one of them that break the law,go down and down hard! That is what I would like to see. Banashment to the rim of a volcano outside Mexico City would suit me fine. We had some punk ass mexican turd kill a golf course worker here and the damn judge gave him 5 to life. I don't know what that freakin Judge was afraid of, but I can assure you, a white man who committed a crime like that would get the chair. But, thats a different issue. I digress. This punk did get favorable treatment though, and I haven't figured out the justification of it yet.

But the majority of Mexicans I know, legal ansd illegal, are family loving, hard working, long suffering humble and respectful people who are happy to have what they have, and that is a chance at a better life than what they left behind south of the border. I commend them for it. I will help any of them long before I would help many cuacasion asswipes I meet on a daily basis in this culture.

BTW, that salad you had with your dinner came courtesy of some very hard working mexicans. The farmer couldn't find any white folks willing to do the work to bring it to you.:disgust:
 
Originally posted by: saftey
They are the VICTIMS OF LABOR ALONG TIME AGO THERE WAS NICE UNIONS AND EVERYONE GOT A CERT OR DEGREE DOING SOMETHING AND ALL GOT PAID THE SAME BUT THEN HERE CAME THE CHEAP LABOR IMMIGRANTS WHO DID IT FOR CHEAPER AND CHEAPER TILL THEY TOOK BUISSNESS AWAY FROM AMERICAN LABORERS AND UNIONS AND NOW IN THE YEAR 2002 THE IMMIGRANTS ARE FIGHTING FOR UNIONS AND EQUALITY HMM...IF THEY WOULD OF PLAYED FAIR FROM THE BEGINING IT WOULDNT HAVE GOT TO THIS POINT
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Breathe... Breathe...
 
maybe that farmer could have found a 'white boy' to do the work if they paid a reasonable amount. but the farmer doesn't have to because the illegal immigrants will work for so much less. they need workers, do you think if there were no illegal immigrants they would just say, "aww hell with it, i won't pay a respectable wage to someone, i'll just not pick the crops". no, they would raise the wage they pay to make up for it. right?
 
Originally posted by: saftey
They are the VICTIMS OF LABOR ALONG TIME AGO THERE WAS NICE UNIONS AND EVERYONE GOT A CERT OR DEGREE DOING SOMETHING AND ALL GOT PAID THE SAME BUT THEN HERE CAME THE CHEAP LABOR IMMIGRANTS WHO DID IT FOR CHEAPER AND CHEAPER TILL THEY TOOK BUISSNESS AWAY FROM AMERICAN LABORERS AND UNIONS AND NOW IN THE YEAR 2002 THE IMMIGRANTS ARE FIGHTING FOR UNIONS AND EQUALITY HMM...IF THEY WOULD OF PLAYED FAIR FROM THE BEGINING IT WOULDNT HAVE GOT TO THIS POINT
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Where are your ancestors from? I?m betting it ain?t America!
 
Originally posted by: saftey
They are the VICTIMS OF LABOR ALONG TIME AGO THERE WAS NICE UNIONS AND EVERYONE GOT A CERT OR DEGREE DOING SOMETHING AND ALL GOT PAID THE SAME BUT THEN HERE CAME THE CHEAP LABOR IMMIGRANTS WHO DID IT FOR CHEAPER AND CHEAPER TILL THEY TOOK BUISSNESS AWAY FROM AMERICAN LABORERS AND UNIONS AND NOW IN THE YEAR 2002 THE IMMIGRANTS ARE FIGHTING FOR UNIONS AND EQUALITY HMM...IF THEY WOULD OF PLAYED FAIR FROM THE BEGINING IT WOULDNT HAVE GOT TO THIS POINT
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this coming from the guy who claims his accord runs 12's on the track with an air filter.
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308nato:

For one, I am glad you are NOT in charge at our side of the border. How childish and sadistic must you be to want people to die just to suit your need for a scandalous international event. Yes border agents from both sides are probably taking kickbacks to look the other way when stuff goes down. And that's illegal. But there isn't an international police that will give you a cookie for each law breaker you kill. International relations go BOTH WAYS. And they are not generally isolated between two countries. People the world over already hate our wastefulness and contempt for every other country in the world. To do what you describe would be incredibly bad for the country's image.
 
Originally posted by: Rakkis
308nato:

For one, I am glad you are NOT in charge at our side of the border. How childish and sadistic must you be to want people to die just to suit your need for a scandalous international event. Yes border agents from both sides are probably taking kickbacks to look the other way when stuff goes down. And that's illegal. But there isn't an international police that will give you a cookie for each law breaker you kill. International relations go BOTH WAYS. And they are not generally isolated between two countries. People the world over already hate our wastefulness and contempt for every other country in the world. To do what you describe would be incredibly bad for the country's image.
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No. Whats bad for our image is the fact that military personnel from another country can shoot at our federal agents with impunity on our own soil. People the world over hate us because of ENVY.

 
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