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MAME

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Hello all. I enjoy the pictures everyone posts here and I think many of them are very interesting. But I have noticed something for far too long and I believe it should be changed.

Now, I have broadband and I don't care as much as some other people, but the pictures posted are simply too big in size. Instead of cropping them or changing the resolution, I have a perfect fix that does not reduce image quality or size! Simply open the picture (JPEG and GIF only I believe) in MS paint, save it as a new name and bam, it's done. ~50% file compression with NO image quality loss.

Take the following picture for example (from this thread). 1.39 megs.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/meanmeosh/colorado_river_2.jpg

Now here's my version of it. No quality difference but it's only 516 KB!
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/forthemame/new.JPG

Compressing your pictures before posting will help both the server that it's hosted on and all the users on ATOT. Please try this next time! Thank you!
 
rh71

rh71

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MS Paint ? Hmm... Save For Web in Photoshop works great too.
 
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MAME

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Originally posted by: rh71
MS Paint ? Hmm... Save For Web in Photoshop works great too.
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I agree that photoshop has a great range of compression and such, but this is very quick and everyone has it. I urge everyone to please try this if they get a chance! (not only for the web but for their own digital camera pics on their computer)



Originally posted by: RossMAN
Good suggestion. Why do people post pics taken at 3MP just for online viewing?

Before you post the pic, resize it to a lower resolution using Microsoft Power Toys Image Resizer, it's quick, easy and free.
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Thank you for the helpful tool! This is another thing that gets pretty annoying. You don't need a 60,000 x 40,000 pic of your cat's head. But if you insist, at least reduce the 14 meg pic first!
 
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CTho9305

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MS Paint does reduce quality quite a bit. IrfanView lets you adjust how much quality you want to sacrifice. BTW, digital camera pics should be resampled, even if to nearly the same size - it will make a big difference.
 
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Originally posted by: CTho9305
MS Paint does reduce quality quite a bit. IrfanView lets you adjust how much quality you want to sacrifice. BTW, digital camera pics should be resampled, even if to nearly the same size - it will make a big difference.
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resampled?
 
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bleeb

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Don't do it dawg. Some people use those pics to make "Own3d" or "Pwn3d" pictures.
 
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MAME

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Originally posted by: CTho9305
MS Paint does reduce quality quite a bit. IrfanView lets you adjust how much quality you want to sacrifice. BTW, digital camera pics should be resampled, even if to nearly the same size - it will make a big difference.
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Do you see ANY quality difference in the above pics?

I personally have never noticed a difference. Not saying there isn't one but if you can't tell then just go for it.
 
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MAME

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Originally posted by: bleeb
Don't do it dawg. Some people use those pics to make "Own3d" or "Pwn3d" pictures.
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How does making a picture smaller in file size effect that in any way?
 
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CTho9305

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Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: CTho9305
MS Paint does reduce quality quite a bit. IrfanView lets you adjust how much quality you want to sacrifice. BTW, digital camera pics should be resampled, even if to nearly the same size - it will make a big difference.
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Do you see ANY quality difference in the above pics?

I personally have never noticed a difference. Not saying there isn't one but if you can't tell then just go for it.
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Look carefully at the trees. I'm not saying MSPaint is always bad... but on some pics, it really does a poor job. In this case, I wouldn't notice without the 2 side by side.
 
CZroe

CZroe

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Originally posted by: MAME
Originally posted by: CTho9305
MS Paint does reduce quality quite a bit. IrfanView lets you adjust how much quality you want to sacrifice. BTW, digital camera pics should be resampled, even if to nearly the same size - it will make a big difference.
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Do you see ANY quality difference in the above pics?
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Actually... yeah. First thing I thought was "I'll click the second one and identify a compression artifact"
I clicked it and... damn IE image resizing. I then disabled it in the options menu because I knew it would make comparison difficult

All I had to do was glance at the image to see a glaring artifact on the horizon.

"OK, now click the other picture and use ALT + LEFT and ALT + RIGHT (Back and Forward shortcuts for those with touchpads ;)) to compare"

I was using a touchpad with "tap to click" enabled and wasn't sure that I clicked the link. I was pretty sure I hadn't, but I didn't want to try again or else I'd risk having to press ALT + LEFT + LEFT and ALT + RIGHT + RIGHT to compare. So I switched back over and looked at the image.

"Where'd they go?" I immediately thought. Then I noticed that the back button was enabled, so I had clicked the image.

Case in point: The difference was immediately noticable. I identified that the image was different immediately and without any knowledge of it changing.

I've always been scared to edit low-quality JPEGs in MSPAINT for fear of just such quality degredation, but I never bothered to check. However, it is a nice quick way to compress the image on virtually any PC without installing a utility.

See? (In uncompressed BMP format for zero percent additional quality loss enlarged 200%)

EDIT: Well I'll be damned... Enlarging in Windows Paint performs some sort of filtering on the image. Who knew? The artifacts are still apparant. I wish I would have just left it at normal size and never edited my post with the enlarged version but it's gone now and I'm not starting over.
 
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MAME

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After staring at them for a minute, I can honestly say I don't see a difference

BTW, your link doesn't work
 
FoBoT

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Originally posted by: Colt45
PNG owns jpg
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^^^

are there any digi-cams that save in .png format?

we are looking to buy our first one (well, i had one of those super low res ones way back) and they seem to all use .jpg
 
Squisher

Squisher

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Photoshop has a nice utility called "Save for web" rather than just "Save".

It'll give you four views of the item saved at different quality settings.

 
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MAME

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Originally posted by: CZroe
It didn't for a second. That edit was done almost immediately.
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Which one is the better one? I can't see a friggin difference
 
CZroe

CZroe

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Look above the bump. You dont see that the first one is outlined three times? "Ghosting"
 
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