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Help with Intel cooler choice (3 requirements)

also is there only 2 different mounting systems: push-pins and the other one with screws? What's the adv/disadv of one vs. the other
Btw do you need to take the mobo off the case to install the screw type?
 
Any of the Zalman flower shaped HSF offerings. You can even use the CNPS 7000 with an adapter on a Socket 775.

I think the 8700 NT should be perfect.

But again, what case - it'll determine what can be fit in there.
 
for the non-pushpin coolers do you have to take the mobo out of the case to install the screws on the back?
 
Originally posted by: RallyMaster
Yes, you will need to take out the mobo to install the install the heatsink via bolt-through.
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i see...that i will not do, after taking so much time to arganize everything in the case.
so i need push-pin system then.
 
Originally posted by: PianoMan
Any of the Zalman flower shaped HSF offerings. You can even use the CNPS 7000 with an adapter on a Socket 775.

I think the 8700 NT should be perfect.

But again, what case - it'll determine what can be fit in there.
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The CNPS7000 is horribly loud at stock speeds (compared to a heatsink that uses a low speed 120mm fan), so it fails condition #3.

I don't understand the purpose of condition #2. What video card cooler are you talking about here? Something like the Sapphire 3850 or Thermalright HR-03 with the wraparound heatsink fins?
 
Originally posted by: AmberClad
Originally posted by: PianoMan
Any of the Zalman flower shaped HSF offerings. You can even use the CNPS 7000 with an adapter on a Socket 775.

I think the 8700 NT should be perfect.

But again, what case - it'll determine what can be fit in there.
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The CNPS7000 is horribly loud at stock speeds (compared to a heatsink that uses a low speed 120mm fan), so it fails condition #3.

I don't understand the purpose of condition #2. What video card cooler are you talking about here? Something like the Sapphire 3850 or Thermalright HR-03 with the wraparound heatsink fins?
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its the fanless asus 8600gts
 
Originally posted by: asintu
Originally posted by: AmberClad
Originally posted by: PianoMan
Any of the Zalman flower shaped HSF offerings. You can even use the CNPS 7000 with an adapter on a Socket 775.

I think the 8700 NT should be perfect.

But again, what case - it'll determine what can be fit in there.
Click to expand...
The CNPS7000 is horribly loud at stock speeds (compared to a heatsink that uses a low speed 120mm fan), so it fails condition #3.

I don't understand the purpose of condition #2. What video card cooler are you talking about here? Something like the Sapphire 3850 or Thermalright HR-03 with the wraparound heatsink fins?
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its the fanless asus 8600gts
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but i guess it i rotate the heatsink 90 degrees to its initial position I could also use a cpu cooler with a side fan blowing downwards
 
Originally posted by: asintu
Originally posted by: RallyMaster
Yes, you will need to take out the mobo to install the install the heatsink via bolt-through.
Click to expand...

i see...that i will not do, after taking so much time to arganize everything in the case.
so i need push-pin system then.
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In this situation, I would say that you're being lazy. If you choose the pushpin method, then you'll be better off sticking with the stock heatsink. Unless...the reason your stock sink is vibrating in the first place is due to those pushpins.
 
Originally posted by: RallyMaster
Originally posted by: asintu
Originally posted by: RallyMaster
Yes, you will need to take out the mobo to install the install the heatsink via bolt-through.
Click to expand...

i see...that i will not do, after taking so much time to arganize everything in the case.
so i need push-pin system then.
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the reason your stock sink is vibrating in the first place is due to those pushpins.
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it's not the pushpins...its the fan enclosure...here's how i make the vibration go away.
i apply side pressure (so force parallel to the board) on each of the 4 vertical plastic posts of the black fan enclosure
 
if i get a new cooler do i have to wipe the thermal paste off the cpu (if so, how?) . can i have too much thermal paste?
 
Yes, it is recommended to clean off the paste when swapping heatsinks.
I used Arcticlean, and while it left my room smelling intensely like oranges, it works very well. Other people I think use alcohol or something similar.

Yes, you can definitely have too much thermal paste. You want just enough so that it fills in the gaps, but too much and you'll actually interfere with the heat transfer. Metal-to-metal is way better than metal-to-paste-to-metal.

Regarding the vibrations, if the noise goes away when you apply pressure, that could actually mean it IS the push-pins not holding the heatsink tightly enough. With a bolt through kit, it will be secure if you screw it down all the way, in effect, producing the added "pressure" of your fingers all the time. Either that or that's a seriously vibrating fan and it's transferring the movement into the surrounding parts and case which amplifies it.

With regards to cooling the video card, passively cooled heatsinks normally operate on the assumption of good case airflow. However, I don't think blowing hot air at it (the air coming off the CPU heatsink you're blowing to "cool" the video card) will help very much.
 
http://www.jab-tech.com/Xigmat...PU-Cooler-pr-4096.html

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This is my favorate TIM:
http://www.jab-tech.com/Tim-Co...0098-2.5g-pr-4130.html


Those 2 would be my top recomendations as of this moment since your very case limited.


wait:

i did some digging:

Cooling System
80mm Fans No
90mm Fans 1 x 92mm front fan
120mm Fans 1 x 120mm rear fan

Remove side panel duct, and you should be able to fit a TRUE. Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme.

Or even a regular TRU.
Or Ultima90.

This is now my frist recomendation:
http://www.jab-tech.com/Xigmat...PU-Cooler-pr-4097.html

Its in stock at newegg. As for TIM, im really starting to like that TIM Consultant stuff. 😀
Some people like ICDiamond. I just prefer TC because of its texture and ease of application. :T

HOWEVER! all the sinks listed come with TIM. And yes you will need to replace your TIM. So you need to clean the IHS off your CPU with 90% rubbing alcohol and with a coffee filter if possible. This way you wont get any lint on the IHS when you pop the sink on.
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
http://www.jab-tech.com/Xigmat...PU-Cooler-pr-4096.html

+

This is my favorate TIM:
http://www.jab-tech.com/Tim-Co...0098-2.5g-pr-4130.html


Those 2 would be my top recomendations as of this moment since your very case limited.


wait:

i did some digging:

Cooling System
80mm Fans No
90mm Fans 1 x 92mm front fan
120mm Fans 1 x 120mm rear fan

Remove side panel duct, and you should be able to fit a TRUE. Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme.

Or even a regular TRU.
Or Ultima90.

This is now my frist recomendation:
http://www.jab-tech.com/Xigmat...PU-Cooler-pr-4097.html

Its in stock at newegg. As for TIM, im really starting to like that TIM Consultant stuff. 😀
Some people like ICDiamond. I just prefer TC because of its texture and ease of application. :T

HOWEVER! all the sinks listed come with TIM. And yes you will need to replace your TIM. So you need to clean the IHS off your CPU with 90% rubbing alcohol and with a coffee filter if possible. This way you wont get any lint on the IHS when you pop the sink on.
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i only have one big fan in the rear of the case which has a manual adjuster which i always put on low

What's TIM, TC and IHS?
Also, is this one any good? I've found it at a local store.
http://pccyber.com/?v=product&i=CF-OCZ-TVANQ
Also, you think it will fit on the mobo in between the 3 heatsinks and memory and what not?


 
Originally posted by: DarkRogue
Yes, it is recommended to clean off the paste when swapping heatsinks.
I used Arcticlean, and while it left my room smelling intensely like oranges, it works very well. Other people I think use alcohol or something similar.


Regarding the vibrations, if the noise goes away when you apply pressure, that could actually mean it IS the push-pins not holding the heatsink tightly enough. With a bolt through kit, it will be secure if you screw it down all the way, in effect, producing the added "pressure" of your fingers all the time. Either that or that's a seriously vibrating fan and it's transferring the movement into the surrounding parts and case which amplifies it.
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it's not the pushpins for sure...when i apply pressure on them nothing happens...only on the fan enclosure which leads me to believe the fan motor is loose in the enclosure i think
 
Hm, in that case maybe the fan isn't hooked on to the heatsink tightly enough?

TIM = Thermal Interface Material, aka thermal grease, the stuff you put between the heatsink and the CPU to fill in the gaps for better heat transfer.
TC I'm assuming is just the name of the brand aigomorla is recommending, just like AS = Arctic Silver brand.
IHS, I forgot what it stood for... something heat spreader? Anyway, I believe this is the top plate on the CPU where the model numbers and stuff is printed, and also where you're applying the TIM to.
 
Originally posted by: DarkRogue
Hm, in that case maybe the fan isn't hooked on to the heatsink tightly enough?

TIM = Thermal Interface Material, aka thermal grease, the stuff you put between the heatsink and the CPU to fill in the gaps for better heat transfer.
TC I'm assuming is just the name of the brand aigomorla is recommending, just like AS = Arctic Silver brand.
IHS, I forgot what it stood for... something heat spreader? Anyway, I believe this is the top plate on the CPU where the model numbers and stuff is printed, and also where you're applying the TIM to.
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ok thanx for the explanation. so would you say the ocz vanquisher is better than the stock cooler? performance and noise-wise
 
I haven't personally used it, so I can't say. Could (and should!) try searching for reviews of it to see how it stacks up.
 
Originally posted by: DarkRogue
Hm, in that case maybe the fan isn't hooked on to the heatsink tightly enough?

TIM = Thermal Interface Material, aka thermal grease, the stuff you put between the heatsink and the CPU to fill in the gaps for better heat transfer.
TC I'm assuming is just the name of the brand aigomorla is recommending, just like AS = Arctic Silver brand.
IHS, I forgot what it stood for... something heat spreader? Anyway, I believe this is the top plate on the CPU where the model numbers and stuff is printed, and also where you're applying the TIM to.
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^ >.<

thank you. yes TC = brand of TIM i like.
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
http://www.jab-tech.com/Xigmat...PU-Cooler-pr-4096.html

+

This is my favorate TIM:
http://www.jab-tech.com/Tim-Co...0098-2.5g-pr-4130.html


Those 2 would be my top recommendations as of this moment since your very case limited.
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The Xigmatek is an excellent choice for a cooler but the TIM you chose, although good is silicone-based and will cause the copper heat pipes to oxidize.
If you are using a cooler with a copper base or copper pipes that are in direct contact w/ the CPU heat spreader, you should use a ceramic-based TIM instead, such as OCZ Freeze.
 
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