Help with dual core e4 and e6

[phillyman36]

Im looking at info on the internet and the is a e4 and e6 stepping for Amd athlon 64x2 3800 whats the difference and how can i tell which im buying? New only display 1 x2-3800 i dont know whitch one it is

 

[theMan]

if they dont display it, its hard to tell. you have to look on the surface of the chip. e6 have been having some problems overclocking.

 

[phillyman36]

What are the differences between the 2?

 

[n7]

I just finished doing some pretty intensive research on the X2 3800+

Very interesting last couple hours it was...

There are actually two different X2 3800+ out there.

One is an E4 Manchester.
The other is a less seen E6 Toledo with half the cache disabled. Most likely they are 4400+ that had half the cache fail, & were down-binned.

If you look on AMD' site, you will see that for each Manchester X2, there are two versions, the E4, & the E6.

Now more than likely, the E6 4200+ is a cache-failed 4400+, & the E6 4600+ is a cache-failed 4800+.

That why the E6 3800+ is so interesting to me.
As of the present, there is no 4000+, so the E6 3800+ has to be a cache-failed 4400+. The only downside of that is that is may also be a speed-failed 4400+, which isn't so good for us OCers.

However, it seems both E4 & E6 3800+ are hitting very nice OCs.

I think the OCing potential is higher with the E6 3800+ myself, since i'm assuming they were designed to be 4400+, which should mean a slightly higher OC.

Either way though, both E4 & E6 3800+ seem to hit 2.4GHz at the lowest, which means a free upgrade to 4600+

Here's the links to some great info on the X2s & the different revisions:
http://balusc.xs4all.nl/Ned/har-cpu-amd-k9.php

On AMD's compare site, select X2, & more details will appear -
http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/Default.aspx








Here's what i copied onto notepad for my own reference:

More detailed info from AMD.com:

Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core
Model 3800+
Ordering P/N (Tray) ADA3800DAA5CD
Ordering P/N (PIB) ADA3800BVBOX
Stepping E6 - Toledo (half cache disabled)

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core Details
Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core
Model 3800+
Ordering P/N (Tray) ADA3800DKA5BV
Ordering P/N (PIB) ADA3800BVBOX
Stepping E4 - Manchester



Detailed info from The BalusC Server:

X2 3800+ Toledo
OEM: ADA3800DAA5CD
BOXED: ADA3800CDBOX

X2 3800+ Manchester
OEM: ADA3800DAA5BV
BOXED: ADA3800BVBOX

 

[Furen]

Heh, I dont think it makes a difference other than the fact that they're different batches. There are E4 4600+ and 4200+ so both "core revisions" are have the same clockspeed targets.