Help with cooler from Xeon x58 @4.67ghz to Asus RIVE Black x99

DPOverLord

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Coming from my Xeon x5660 at 4.67ghz on a gigabyte x58a-ud5 Rev 2. Lasted me years until a bad roommate situation. I'm heading to microcenter to buy the main parts could use your advice on the beat air cooler and if I'm missing anything.

-Air cooler (see below used a ultra 120 exteme)
-Ram (use G.skill ddr3 wanted to buy the same brand at 2666)
-5930k ($499 vs $899 5960x)

Rest stays same
Tri sli titans / G2 1300 / 2 Samsung pro 840 raid 0(512gbx2) / 3 WD Red 4tb / 1 3tb Seagate barracuda

Going to X99 tom. and I don't think I can use my 4/5 year old Thermaltake ultra 120 extreme.... Is it possible? Or is there a better air cooler?

What is the best cooler for my new x99 setup for overclocking? I want air, never heard good things about the AIO air/water. Prefer a massive heatsink Lots of fans with my case. I'd in my signature. Here are pics of my system:

http://m.imgur.com/a/j4rt4I


Thanks as I'm buying it tom. and will make the order for the G.Skill ddr4 memory but what g.skill works best with this motherboard / what should I get at microcenter. I want to cap my user for 32gb at around 400ish to me that's really steep.

Proc does not seem to make a big difference b/w x vs k.

Motherboard I'm in good hands


Please give me your input! Thanks so much I'll def be O/C and am lost with x99
 

xthetenth

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I'd want to be a bit careful making sure that'll fit around the RAM slots. I've seen people cutting away at the bottom fins. However, it is much cheaper at that price than the more compatible NH-D15, so if it would fit in the case and not block RAM slots it's a good pick.
 

DPOverLord

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Ok so it may be smart to take the cooler with me to the store or measure it out to make sure it fits first. If this is considered mid range What's better?

I wrote thermalright and they mentioned buying a bracket kit or purchasing the Thermalright Macho 120
 

lehtv

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I guess Thermalright is saying that Macho 120 is the modern day equivalent of the Ultra 120 Extreme.

If this is considered mid range What's better?

To name a few:

Thermalright: Macho (140mm fan), True Spirit 140mm, Archon IB-E, Silver Arrow IB-E
Phanteks: TX12DX, TC14PE
Noctua: U12S, U14S, D14, D15
Cooler Master: V8 GTS
Zalman: CNPS9900, CNPS12X

Plus several AIO liquid coolers from various brands which require compatible case fan slots.
 

DPOverLord

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I never really considered the AIO I only heard of people having failure / issues and have no idea where I would put it in my case air has never failed me so I am cool with it. See photos (http://m.imgur.com/a/j4rt4I)
Heatsink wise I will put two fans on it, but I don't want to have issues with ram. The Current ultra 120 extreme sits too high and hits the window on the side not allowing me to close it. So I like having a heatsink that is a bit lower
 

DPOverLord

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I'd want to be a bit careful making sure that'll fit around the RAM slots. I've seen people cutting away at the bottom fins. However, it is much cheaper at that price than the more compatible NH-D15, so if it would fit in the case and not block RAM slots it's a good pick.
Thanks so much guys. I'm heading to the store to buy this stuff. I will call g skill to see how high the ram sits.

I take it thermalright is not the king in coolers anymore?

They had recommended getting a bracket or buying their macho
http://www.thermalright.com/html/products/cpu_cooler/macho120_reva.html?panel=1
Currently with my x58 mobo these are the dimensions and clearance I have on stock ram. With x99 I bekie
400


I also was told that the rampage black may allow my old heatsink to work as it comes with a 1366 adaptor is this true I could use that if possible until we decide on a new one....
 

BonzaiDuck

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Somebody should've told him about the EVGA ACX -- formerly the EVGA SuperClock cooler. Do I need to post screenies?! 6C cooler than an NH-D14, and I proved it. About the size and shape of a TRUE or a Megahalems . . .And as much as $40 less than a Noctua D15. Tsk, tsk, tsk. . . .
 

DPOverLord

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Somebody should've told him about the EVGA ACX -- formerly the EVGA SuperClock cooler. Do I need to post screenies?! 6C cooler than an NH-D14, and I proved it. About the size and shape of a TRUE or a Megahalems . . .And as much as $40 less than a Noctua D15. Tsk, tsk, tsk. . . .

I have not purchased anything..

Right now I have the Ultra 120 Extreme but I always have hated that I cannot close my case. I right now have boiled it down to:

1. Phantek
2. Macho
3. Anything else

Do you mean this:
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=100-FS-C201-KR

It looks really small compared to my old ultra 120 extreme
 
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aigomorla

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noctuna D14 or C12 should also be considered great heat sinks.

im fairly sure the D14 and D15 are better heat sinks then the phantek.
 

BonzaiDuck

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I have not purchased anything..

Right now I have the Ultra 120 Extreme but I always have hated that I cannot close my case. I right now have boiled it down to:

1. Phantek
2. Macho
3. Anything else

Do you mean this:
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=100-FS-C201-KR

It looks really small compared to my old ultra 120 extreme

I'll tell you this to say that I know it 100%, no doubts, based on comparison reviews, review comparisons, and tests I ran in near-identical systems with near-identical fan-deployment, near-identical PSUs and near-identical power draw from gfx, PCI-E miscellaneous and number and power consumption of hard drives. Essentially the same motherboard with the more recent of the two simply a "Gen3" version of the first. One is a 2600K which is (currently) at 4.6 and stress-load voltage (drooped) of 1.35V, and the other is a 2700K at 4.7 exactly identical stress-load voltage. D14 on the 2600K, ACX on the 2700K, and identical load peak power at ~140W under the same stress-test.

The ACX beats out the D14 exactly as a Hardware Secrets review reports from their tests. As opposed to their simple bench-configurations, my own test comparison used similar ducting and the same AP-30 exhaust in the duct pulling from either heatpipe. My result was 5C as opposed to their 6C. That's simple fact #1 which I can screenie for proof if you (really, really, really ) insist.

from the same sampling of available online reviews -- Frosty Tech, xbitlabs, Hardware Secrets and comparing results to accumulate rank-order with the transitivity axiom -- Macho is a less optimal choice. I'm not even sure the Macho beats the D14. Something you can check.

But I went to that mountain, and I came back with a conclusion that the ACX was better and the D14 probably at least as good.

I s*** you not.
 
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lehtv

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But I went to that mountain, and I came back with a conclusion that the ACX was better

ACX's performance comes at a great cost because it uses a 2800RPM fan. In the Hardwaresecrets review, ACX ran 9 dBa louder than the two Noctua D14 fans combined, and it wasn't even running at full speed (most likely PWM control was left to Regular in the BIOS, plus they were using i7-860 at mere 3.3GHz and stock volts). It's nothing but a marketing trick, it makes the cooler look great in reviews as long as the reader pays no attention to the dBa readings.

When equipped with a reasonable speed fan, ACX loses even to Noctua C14. Conversely, if you equipped Noctua D14 with a 2800 RPM fan, you'd get much better performance out of it than you would from a stock ACX.

And let's not forget that acoustic and thermal performance is not the only thing that counts towards which cooler is better. EVGA offers one year warranty for its cooler, Noctua offers 6 year warranty with free installation brackets for future CPU sockets.
 
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