Help with car speakers.

Danman

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I just got a car like two weeks ago, a 95 Nissan Altima GLE, and the speakers suck in there. They are all around 6 X 1/2. Can anyone tell me what kind of speakers I should get? Thanks. :)
 

minendo

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Infiniti Kappa's seem to be popular.

I personally like my Cerwin Vega 6.5's that I have. Cerwin Vega 6002 is the model.
 

d1abolic

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Ok, i'm not an expert, but i believe you need a pair of tweeters, a pair of mids and a pair of subwoofers. Grab 1" tweeters, 6.5" mids and 10" subs. Check out CarReview for some good info.
 

ThisIsMatt

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<< Ok, i'm not an expert, but i believe you need a pair of tweeters, a pair of mids and a pair of subwoofers. Grab 1" tweeters, 6.5" mids and 10" subs. >>

haha, that was helpful :confused:

Infinity Kappa's are pretty good for the price...if you don't want to spend much, you'll probably be fine with some pioneer's...
 

gplanet

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Diamond Audio M561 components


edit: while the speakers in the car may suck, it's likely that it's the head unit that sucks worse. get a good head unit, and you'll find your speakers sound WAY better. then if you want you can add new speakers later :)

also if you decide to get new speakers, spend your entire budget for just the front speakers do not get any speakers for the rear. adjust the head unit fade completely or mostly to the front
 

zephyrprime

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You might need some dampening for the inside of your car doors too if you have bad resonance. Dynamat is supposedly good but I haven't tried any myself. (I gotta get some for my car but money's tight for me.)
 

Danman

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Well, all I am looking for right now are 6.5 speakers, do anyone know if Memphis speakers are any good? They have a lifetime warranty on them and I can get all 4 of them installed for 220. Don't know if that is a good price or not.
 

chickendinner

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no memphis are not the best. get some component speakeers like infinity perfects, what i have, you dont need an amp, but it is recomended. they come with crossovers and are some of the best options to good sound with out spending more than 1k on a good amp, deck and get a good set of speakers and a good sub, install them yourself spend install $ on better sound, should only take an hour maybe two max. pro install can take upto 4( tho not better quality). some places will half ass the job, like in my case forget to hook the ac connector back up! for good sound you really need a good deck tho!
 

Nocturnal

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for sub's i know JL's rock da hizzy. as for highs' mb quarts rock the hizzy.

i dont know for the mid's and the 6 by 5 or whatever.
 

amnesiac

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I helped my friend rip out his crappy OEM speakers in his Saturn and replace them with 6.5 Boston Acoustics from Good Guys for like $120. Sound a hell of a lot better. It's by no means the best solution but probably the easiest and cheapest route to better sound.
 

Nocturnal

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<< I helped my friend rip out his crappy OEM speakers in his Saturn and replace them with 6.5 Boston Acoustics from Good Guys for like $120. Sound a hell of a lot better. It's by no means the best solution but probably the easiest and cheapest route to better sound. >>



i would think you need a amp/deck to make the speakers sound good.

im no car specialist so correct me if im wrong.
 

chickendinner

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JL audio's subs cant handle too much power tho.. but good company.. for subs the best company is Rockford Fosgate they have a dual voice coil and are stable down to 1 ohm. installed systems for 4 years now. and had very few problems with high end RF products. of couse performance is only limited to your budget.... for your altima tho i believe you have two 5x7's in the front doors and two 6.5 in the rear deck ( i think you car came with out cd) if not you have 6x9's in the back and 4x6 in the front. sounds like no cd tho.. thas why i recomended component speakers cause if you have 5x7 in the front doors you will need to do some modifications to put 6.5 in there. your speakers might sound poorly cause there are frequencies going in to them that the speaker is not meant to handle.. a crossover blocks them at an octave slope (from 6 to 18dB). best bet is component speakers.
 

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<< JL audio's subs cant handle too much power tho.. but good company.. for subs the best company is Rockford Fosgate they have a dual voice coil and are stable down to 1 ohm. installed systems for 4 years now. and had very few problems with high end RF products. of couse performance is only limited to your budget.... for your altima tho i believe you have two 5x7's in the front doors and two 6.5 in the rear deck ( i think you car came with out cd) if not you have 6x9's in the back and 4x6 in the front. sounds like no cd tho.. thas why i recomended component speakers cause if you have 5x7 in the front doors you will need to do some modifications to put 6.5 in there. your speakers might sound poorly cause there are frequencies going in to them that the speaker is not meant to handle.. a crossover blocks them at an octave slope (from 6 to 18dB). best bet is component speakers. >>



Uhhmmmm Sir I do believe MTX whoops rockford fosgate...but I guess thats just my opinion.

Hey buy this - https://http://mtx.com/caraudio/products/subwoofers/RFL.cfm
 

chickendinner

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Uhhmmmm Sir I do believe MTX whoops rockford fosgate...but I guess thats just my opinion.
ar you talking about competition speakers? from this guys description i surmise he is not gonna spend 500 bucks on a sub, which i might add that the RF's punch power dvc 15 inch will pretty much kill a a mtx in the same price range. have you heard both? how about gone to a car audio competion? that is prolly the only mtx sub that would as would beat an rf. any body can say here buy the most expensive sub and that will sound great, but i dont see this guy going in the 2000 watt class, not to mention he would have to spend literally over $2000 just to get a system to power that sub in its RMS. not to mention two batteries new alternator huge caps to store power for that thing
 

gplanet

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i'll say it again -- get Diamond Audio M561 components on eBay, $200 is a good price, install them yourself, you'll be blown away compared to these Memphis speakers you're talking about or anything else for that price.
 

Doodoo

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If you got the dough...go for the image dynamics component set.....if not...id really look into getting the Infinity Reference speakers...the newer ones with the white cone. The got a nice silk tweeter so the highs won't get too harsh. Also the kappas sound like ass if they're not run off an amp.

And JL's can hold their own...i'm not a big fan of em cuz everyone around here has em...but they're good subs. I've seen many 12 inch w6's with over 800 watts. More than good enough for an everyday driver.
 

Viperoni

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<< for subs the best company is Rockford Fosgate they have a dual voice coil and are stable down to 1 ohm >>



Subs being stable to 1ohm?
Only amps can be stable to 1ohm, drivers create the impedance load depending on how they're wired, it's up to the amp to handle the load (and for the drivers to be able to handle the power the amp spits out)

And you will quickly learn RF is pretty crappy.

One of the better SPL subs is the Blueprint Drivers 1803
A solid 1kw of power handling, plus so much excursion it's not even funny.




<< RF's punch power dvc 15 inch will pretty much kill a a mtx in the same price range >>



Subs that will smoke RF's or MTX's in that price range:

15inch Dayton DVC
15inch Adire Audio Tempest
Though it's not a 15, the 12inch Peerless XLS car version sub would also teach the RF's/MTX's a thing or two.

My point: many of the "higher end"/popular brands (Infinity, RF, MTX, going to an extreme, Bose) are overpriced.
But hey, someones gotta pay for advertising...the consumer :Q



As for your dilemma.......

I've heard a LOT of good things about the Diamond audio set.

Besides, only the front's need to be really good, the rears should never play bass or highs to begin with. You can do this with a simple capacitor and coil wired to the rear speakers (PM/email me for more info if you wanna do that). It'll really help your soundstage, imaging, and in general, sound quality a lot.
 

chickendinner

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<< Only amps can be stable to 1ohm, drivers create the impedance load depending on how they're wired, it's up to the amp to handle the load (and for the drivers to be able to handle the power the amp spits out) >>



thats basically what i meant: with the rf's 2 ohm and with and amp that is stable while wired that way one can get more power from their amp, it is much different if it is a 4 ohm, its impendace will not let it be power by an amp to that level, some amps can go to .5 of an ohm, but the other question was just a reply to the guy who was recomending the $1000 sub. iwas saying typically the mtx's cone works against it in high end usage.
for easy install of base with not much sacrafice of storage get a bazooka bass tube, they are very good for most audiophiles cause they are pretty cheap and with the self powered ones, you do not need an amp.
if you are just going to buy new speakers for your car, you should buy whatever you want,say those memphis', buy some bass blockers that clock frequencies below 75Hz. they are inline crossovers that block unwanted frequencies. i believe that is why you are getting such poor sound quality. especially if you are using your stock stereo. and if you go to get it done by a pro, make sure that they run a checklist of things that worked before and after the installation, if something was screwed, at their fault they will have to fix it. i rec. doing it yourself new speakers are really easy to install, but make sure you get the right size, there are different 6.5 inch sizes, check how it will hook up in your car and then cheack out the new speaker's atachment will it fit? right mounting depth. are tou sure that the front speakers are 6.5 cuase i looked you car up on the comp. and it says 5x7 in the front door. could be 6.5 tho. but check.