Help with assembling a Pc, Nearly Finished.

Jiffydeluxe

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Hi. First off i am new here, and was directed here by a friend, who said the guys here could help me. I am assembling a computer strictly for gaming, and have ordered and recieved all the parts i needed. I just need help on how to hook everything up, for i have never fooled with serial ATA Harddives, or disc drives. I wanted to know how to hook them up to each other, to the Psu, and to the Mobo. Oh and neither of them are connected by the ribbon cords, which is what threw me off. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
 

Chosonman

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Hooking up SATA cables is simpler than that game you played as a kid, you know the one where you put the square peg in the square hole, the circle in the circle... just stop me whenever...
 

Jiffydeluxe

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I did read it, my question was how to connect the Hdd and the Disc Drive together, then to the psu. I have it Connected to the motherboard.

 

Harvey

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SATA (Sserial ATA) devices have their own type of connedtors and cables. They don't match anything else, and they only go together one way. Your SATA drive(s) should have included the cables you need.

Some drives (Western Digital comes to mind) have an option of using a slightly different system that allows you to use an enhanced connector that is supposed to improve reliablity, but even that is compatible with the standard SATA interface.

They only go together one way, the right way. The manual for your motherboard and the instructions with your drives should have the info you need.

If you intend to mix SATA and PATA (standard ATA) drives, some boards require you to change some settings in your CMOS to get them to boot correctly.
 

Jiffydeluxe

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There is this cord, with a Sata connector on each end, with a Molex female connecter in the middle, do i hook them up with that, then plug Psu molex male into that?
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Jiffydeluxe
well both drives were OEMS...

Make(s)? Go to the manufacturer's website. They'll probably have connection diagrams and an FAQ page.
 

Jiffydeluxe

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Sony disc Drive, and a Western Digital HDD. I actually think i have them connected correctly, its just when i flip the switch on the Psu, the Mobo lights up, but the Proccesor fan doesnt spin, and power button does nothing. I cant leave it on but for a few secs cus Psu fan isnt coming on.
 

Chosonman

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well OEM's don't come with SATA connectors. You'll have to pay about $6 each for them.

I'd check to see if you have your CPU seated properly. You can't just plop it in. Again, read your motherboard manual CAREFULLY>
 

Chosonman

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Here are steps I would take:

1) insert CPU and Fan
2) insert RAM
3) place MOBO in case
4) connect front panel switch/led to mobo
5) insert graphics card
6) connect HD and DVD drive to mobo
7) connect power cables to mobo and devices

Make sure all your connections are correct. 80% of the time the problem is your connections.

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Jiffydeluxe
Sony disc Drive, and a Western Digital HDD. I actually think i have them connected correctly, its just when i flip the switch on the Psu, the Mobo lights up, but the Proccesor fan doesnt spin, and power button does nothing. I cant leave it on but for a few secs cus Psu fan isnt coming on.

What happens when you disconnect one or both drives. If the same thing happens, your problem is not related to the drives.

The most likely problems are:

1. Something else is not connected correctly. Power down, and unplug and reseat your RAM, video card and any other plug in card, and try again.

2. Your RAM or a plug in card could be defective. Remove all plug in cards other than your vid card and all but one stick of RAM, and try again. If that doesn't fix it, try a different vid card and other sticks of RAM.

3. If the problem persists, you may have a short between the motherboard and the case. If so, remove all plug in cards, remove the screws holding the motherboard, and slide an insulator, such as a piece of cardboard or plastic under the motherboard.

Then, without screwing it in, CAREFULLY place it back in the case with the insulating sheet under it, plug in your vid card and one stick of RAM, CAREFULLY arrange things so nothing is shorting, and try again. Be prepared to turn it off quickly in case you weren't careful enough about keeping things from shorting.

If it works, you'll have to be careful when you reassemble it to be sure it isn't shorted. The most likely cause would be that the screw holes weren't precisely alligned with the case, and the supporting metal shorted to a trace or solder pad near the screw hole.

Good luck. :)
 

Jiffydeluxe

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My mobo came with Sata 2 Connectors, which is what My Hdd and Disc drive is. and there is only one way for a CPU to go in.. and it fit snugly and perfectly, and its latched down.
My Mobo manual is quite vague and not very helpful.

 

Jiffydeluxe

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Jiffydeluxe
Sony disc Drive, and a Western Digital HDD. I actually think i have them connected correctly, its just when i flip the switch on the Psu, the Mobo lights up, but the Proccesor fan doesnt spin, and power button does nothing. I cant leave it on but for a few secs cus Psu fan isnt coming on.

What happens when you disconnect one or both drives. If the same thing happens, your problem is not related to the drives.

The most likely problems are:

1. Something else is not connected correctly. Power down, and unplug and reseat your RAM, video card and any other plug in card, and try again.

2. Your RAM or a plug in card could be defective. Remove all plug in cards other than your vid card and all but one stick of RAM, and try again. If that doesn't fix it, try a different vid card and other sticks of RAM.

3. If the problem persists, you may have a short between the motherboard and the case. If so, remove all plug in cards, remove the screws holding the motherboard, and slide an insulator, such as a piece of cardboard or plastic under the motherboard.

Then, without screwing it in, CAREFULLY place it back in the case with the insulating sheet under it, plug in your vid card and one stick of RAM, CAREFULLY arrange things so nothing is shorting, and try again. Be prepared to turn it off quickly in case you weren't careful enough about keeping things from shorting.

If it works, you'll have to be careful when you reassemble it to be sure it isn't shorted. The most likely cause would be that the screw holes weren't precisely alligned with the case, and the supporting metal shorted to a trace or solder pad near the screw hole.

Good luck. :)



My Mobo comes on, but the cpu fan doesnt spin. my ram and vid card have nothing to with my fan not spinning.

 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Jiffydeluxe

My Mobo comes on, but the cpu fan doesnt spin. my ram and vid card have nothing to with my fan not spinning.

Does your motherboard have a connector for a separate four pin auxiliary 12 volt supply? If so, did you connect the matching four lead connector from the PSU to it?

Is your CPU fan plugged into the right connector? Most motherboards with multiple fan connectors have one specifically for the CPU fan. If it doesn't detect a fan, it may not allow the system to start.

Do you know the fan is good? You can test it by plugging it into an aux fan connector on another known good machine.

Do you have any other fans? If so, do they spin up? If not, you could have a short on your 12 volt supply.
 

Jiffydeluxe

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its got an 8 hole socket, Psu has a 6 socket cord, and i plugged them in. I have the fan plugged into the socket, it only goes on one way.

No my other fans dont spin up, i figured cause i might not have them connected right.
 

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Originally posted by: Jiffydeluxe
its got an 8 hole socket, Psu has a 6 socket cord, and i plugged them in.

What motherboard and CPU is this? I've never seen a CPU or motherboard with a six or eight pin connector for any computer fan or any CPU with leads coming out of it. There re some heatsink/fan combos that use a four pin connector, but even those usually run with a four pin to three pin adapter.

I have the fan plugged into the socket, it only goes on one way.

No my other fans dont spin up, i figured cause i might not have them connected right.

Other than the motherboards and fan that use a four pin connector for the HS/fan, all computer fans use the same three pin connector. Check the manual and/or the markings on the motherboard to make sure you have the right one.

If no fan is spinning, you almost definitely have a short. Go back to my earlier instructions about disassembling it and testing it with the motherboard temporarily insulated from everything.
 

Jiffydeluxe

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no the fan conenctor is a little 3 pin connector, the Power supply cable is 6 pin, and connects to a 8 pin connector for the Cpu power.

Evga 750I Sli Mobo
e8400 Wolfdale 3.0ghz processor
Raidmax Smilodin Case
Western Digital HDD
Sony Disc Drive

HDD and Disc drive have a Serial Ata socket, and a sata 2 socket

500 watt PSU

What i dont understand is that each case fan has a molex male and female connector.

 

Harvey

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What's the motherboard? I want to see a pic of this connector.

There are very few examples where a cable is supposed to plug into any connector other than a direct, exact match, and those are usually well documented with available adapters.

I'm beginning to think your problem is that the mismatched cable is shorting out the system.
 

Harvey

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Here's the ATX ver. 2.2 specifications. Check figures 8, 9 and 10.

Fig. 8 shows the standard ATX power supply connectors.

Fig. 9 shows the aux 12 volt connector.

Fig. 10 shows an optional six pin power connector, but it's not for CPU's.

In addition, paragraph 4.1.1 notes a spec for an obsolete six pin connector which probably isn't on any motherboard manufactured since the ATX12V Design Guide Version 2.0 was adopted.

4.1.1 Aux Power Connector for 250 W and 300 W Configurations
  • This recommendation has been removed if using a power supply designed to be compliant to ATX12V Design Guide Version 2.0 or greater. If using a power supply designed using design guides prior to version 2.0, it is recommended that motherboards requiring 3.3V current over 18 A or +5V current over 30 A implement an Aux Power Connector.
 

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Originally posted by: Jiffydeluxe
no the fan conenctor is a little 3 pin connector, the Power supply cable is 6 pin, and connects to a 8 pin connector for the Cpu power.

Evga 750I Sli Mobo
e8400 Wolfdale 3.0ghz processor
Raidmax Smilodin Case
Western Digital HDD
Sony Disc Drive

HDD and Disc drive have a Serial Ata socket, and a sata 2 socket

500 watt PSU

What i dont understand is that each case fan has a molex male and female connector.

Did you somehow plug a 6pin PCI-E connector into the 2x4pin CPU power connector near the CPU? That's what it sounds like you are trying to say.

The case fans you are talking about, do they have one connector with both a male and female end? If so that is so they can be connected together to the same molex connector on your PSU.
 

Jiffydeluxe

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IT works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Chosonman

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Originally posted by: Chosonman
Here are steps I would take:

1) insert CPU and Fan
2) insert RAM
3) place MOBO in case
4) connect front panel switch/led to mobo
5) insert graphics card
6) connect HD and DVD drive to mobo
7) connect power cables to mobo and devices

Make sure all your connections are correct. 80% of the time the problem is your connections.

I think you own Harvey for tech support.