Help with an old laptop

Aolish

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Hi all, Would really like some help on an old laptop that I'm working on. I have a very good friend with an aunt that has a very old laptop that is painfully slow. I've been working on it for quite some time to get it to work faster but I'm unfortunately unable to do so. It is an old Toshiba laptop that has an AMD E-240 CPU with 2GB of ram and does have some damage on the top left corner side of the laptop.

Awhile ago I went ahead to try and clean as much of the bloatware that was inside the laptop as much as possible in the hopes that it would improve in speed. At first there was a slight improvement but it seems its not enough. The laptop is painfully slow, it almost feels like nearly every action that I do takes forever. The CPU hovers at nearly 100% every single time and I wasn't sure whether or not this had anything to do with Windows Updates or some other bloatware that was causing the spikes (It could even been both). I didn't know what else to do until I decided that it might be best to wipe the drive and start with a clean slate but this time install in a clean Linux distro instead of using Windows 7.

Before I installed Linux I told them that there are going to be compatibility issues and that all data would be wiped cleaned from their HDD. They said they didn't have anything important on the laptop. I also stressed to them that once I installed in Ubuntu that they wouldn't be able to go back to Windows, at least not the one that was installed on the laptop. So after discussing the situation with my friend and his aunt they agreed for me to install Ubuntu onto their laptop. I preceded to first show them what Ubuntu looked like by booting into the USB and they seemed to like it. The only major thing is that my friend seems to be a fan of the default chess game that came with Windows. I told them they wouldn't have that on Ubuntu, but that there are other solutions where he can play chess on a website. They agreed to do the installation anyway and then that was when I installed Ubuntu.

The installation went smooth and dandy, the wifi worked fine and all seemed well. However I noticed even after a full wipe and installing a lighter weight OS compared to what the laptop had it was still very slow. Granted it does seem a bit faster than before when the laptop had Windows installed, but its still slow to the point where day to day usage would be very frustrating. I checked the CPU usage monitor that came with Ubuntu and to my surprise the CPU usage was still almost 100%. I kept my eye on it for quite some time and noticed the CPU usage started to drop to around 20% (this was when the updates icon appeared on the left launch bar) but would jump to 60 to maybe 75% then back down to 20 something percent. The CPU usage seems to be all over the place. Browsing the internet is still painful depending on which websites you go to and youtube is almost out of the question because of the lag even at SD quality (tho I haven't tried lower qualities yet such as 240p or lower). However I did notice that the CPU only had a single core on it clocked at 1.5GHZ. I really thought at the time it had at least 2 cores on it but I guess I was wrong.

My question is can anyone recommend a Linux distro or other OS that is VERY light on resources but at the same time leave enough room for basic internet usage, music and chess? Maybe even youtube?
 

John Connor

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Single core at 1.5 GHz is really pushing it. I wouldn't expect YouTube to work much, but does non-flash websites still make the CPU jump?

A lot of websites are script and flash heavy with all kinds of media. If you're using Firefox or even Palemoon, I would install uBlock.

As to a lighter Linux, Puppy Linux comes to mind. Or Damn Small Linux (DSL)
 

Burpo

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That laptop was junk when it was new 5 yrs ago.. The passmark score for that CPU is ridiculously slow!
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+E-240

Pull the hard drive/ram & scrap the rest. They will NEVER be happy with it, nor you about the hours wasted. Buy a used Dell or HP off ebay without a hard drive for $50-$60 and use her drive/ram. Fresh load of Windows & be done.
 
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Charlie98

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Single core at 1.5 GHz is really pushing it. I wouldn't expect YouTube to work much, but does non-flash websites still make the CPU jump?

A lot of websites are script and flash heavy with all kinds of media. If you're using Firefox or even Palemoon, I would install uBlock.

As to a lighter Linux, Puppy Linux comes to mind. Or Damn Small Linux (DSL)

My daughter's 2-core AMD laptop does OK with Linux Mint, but many of the flash-heavy sites still lug it down... and this is with 4GB RAM. My even older single-core Intel Dell laptop simply gagged on that kind of stuff... and I finally retired it. I think the days of slow, single-core CPUs are about over.
 

John Connor

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I think the days of slow, single-core CPUs are about over.


Pretty much, but I reformatted my old Dell Inspiron 6000 with XP SP3 and was able to surf fine. Only gripe I have with it is the track pad is not very sensitive or something. You always have to wipe it with a cloth so that it picks up your finger movement.

OP, I use an old Dell Precision M6300 I bought bare bones on ebay. I bought the power adapter, 4 GB of RAM and a SSD and it's pretty solid. I have two. The first one got water on it from the pool and it wasn't wanting to boot sometimes. I think it is the keyboard or power button, I don't know. But it had a 2GHz Proc and now the replacement I bought has a 2.5 GHz Proc. If I'm up to it I might just switch CPUs one day. But it's not really necessary for what I use this for.

Cool thing was that when I bought my replacement M6300, I just installed the SSD from the first laptop and it booted to Windows like nothing changed. It is even Truecrypt encrypted. The only thing I had an issue with was the WLAN card driver. They must not have been the same, so I had to reinstall the driver.

Oh, I have Win 7 on this Precision. I used the Dell Vista drivers. There are 32 or 64 bit drivers. I never installed the 64 bit version of 7, so I have 3.5 GB of RAM I can use. Plenty for my needs.
 
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JeffMD

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I would stop what you are doing and take up ketchups link. That laptop will handle your web stuff just fine.
 

VirtualLarry

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That laptop was junk when it was new 5 yrs ago.. The passmark score for that CPU is ridiculously slow!
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+E-240

Pull the hard drive/ram & scrap the rest. They will NEVER be happy with it, nor you about the hours wasted. Buy a used Dell or HP off ebay without a hard drive for $50-$60 and use her drive/ram. Fresh load of Windows & be done.

This!

Edit: To elaborate:

I bought into the E-350 mini-ITX craze when Bobcat / Zacate was first released. Got myself an ASRock board, with SATA6G, even. Mostly, bought it for the low power-consumption (at the time, it was really low), and the supposed 1080P decoding capability.

It web browsed "OK" at the time, but it was definitely slower than a comparable Core2-based machine. (But, lower power consumption! At least, I think so...)

The 1080P decode was finicky with the AMD drivers of the day. Sometimes, going to a 1080P YouTube link would work in hardware decode mode with Flash Player, other times it wouldn't, and you would have to fiddle with full-screen and not full-screen to get it to work properly.

But I digress. Your APU is a single-core version, which is comparatively quite a bit worse off. I would personally just consider it mostly a lost cause.

I also own two C-70 APU based Foxconn NanoPCs. I got them because of their size, and low power consumption. They are 1.0Ghz Bobcat based APUs, but are dual-cores. They are basically too slow to run Skype video-conferencing, with both Windows 7 and Linux Mint. Basically too slow to do anything, except possibly sit in a corner and act as a web server for static content.

Get a new laptop, even a refurbished Core2-era one would be faster. Or, look for "deals" on a new one. I snagged a quad-core A6-6310 laptop with 4GB / 500GB for $200 on ebay a week ago. Granted, that one's not super-fast either, but it's faster than a Bay Trail Atom N2830, which is what is in my current laptop. (The A6-6310 is a spiritual successor to the E1-240 APU, although it's a newer architecture, quad-core, and has Turbo. Altogether, that makes it fast enough to actually be usable for things.)
 
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Ranulf

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If you still want to work on the Bobcat single core (ouch that be a slow chip, had to look it up), the best low resource linux OS I've used is LXLE or Lubuntu, both based on ubuntu.

http://lubuntu.net/

http://lxle.net/

I've gotten a 2005 dell with a 1.7ghz Pentium M and 1.2gb to run ok with lxle. It is not what you would call fast or a great web surfing experience though.
 
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lakedude

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I'll second Puppy Linux as the best thing to try short of giving up on the hardware completely. Puppy is much smaller than lubuntu or lxle, Puppy is so small in fact that it will run completely in RAM which makes it very fast/responsive.

DSL is also small but Puppy is much more full featured than DSL.

One of the best things about Puppy is that it will run without the need to install it on a hard drive so you can check it out and see if you like it with no commitment.

Puppy is also free.

I see the CPU supports 64 bit so you should be able to run the Fat Dog 64 version of Puppy if you like.

I'd be happy to help with the learning curve if there is an interest.