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Dug

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What's the cheapest 64bit capable Intel cpu/ motherboard/ memory I can get.

Need this for testing purposes with XP-64, so don't get into the AMD/Intel debate and no overclocking.

 
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Dug

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mmm... I guess no one has built a 64bit Intel system lately.
 
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stevty2889

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A 915 chipset motherboard, with DDR, and a 3.0ghz(or 2.8 if there is one)(the 600 seriers has the EM64T enabled).
 
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SocrPlyr

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if it is just for testing and if you really don't have to worry about a video card etc, you might wanna take a look at this... it isn't the cheapest but for a 3.4GHz... it is pretty cheap...

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/sc?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd

i just configured a basic 3.4 for about 600. often you can get them cheaper. just a thought. i like to build myself, but if this is like the only machine you are going to have to do tests w/ i was thinking this might work out.

Josh
 
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We're clueless on Intel, go to an Intel fan forum and ask them ;)

How about looking at the Anandtech system guides and looking for a 64-bit Intel solution?
 
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Dug

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Originally posted by: ribbon13
What's wrong with the suggestions I made :confused:
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Kind of hard to test an Intel 64bit system with AMD hardware.
Intel will have the largest 64bit desktop customer base, so it would make sense to test on that platform. That and we already have an AMD 64bit system to test with.

Still hard to find exactely which motherboards have a BIOS that supports these new cpu's with 64bit OS. Some of the 915's say they do, but many don't. (According to Intel's website.) Asus, MSI, etc don't make it clear either.

Thanks for the link stevty2889. That would be perfect except I forgot to mention I need an ATX motherboard.


 
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Originally posted by: Dug
Originally posted by: ribbon13
What's wrong with the suggestions I made :confused:
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Kind of hard to test an Intel 64bit system with AMD hardware.
Intel will have the largest 64bit desktop customer base, so it would make sense to test on that platform. That and we already have an AMD 64bit system to test with.

Still hard to find exactely which motherboards have a BIOS that supports these new cpu's with 64bit OS. Some of the 915's say they do, but many don't. (According to Intel's website.) Asus, MSI, etc don't make it clear either.

Thanks for the link stevty2889. That would be perfect except I forgot to mention I need an ATX motherboard.
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Click the links smart guy.
 
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Dug

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Originally posted by: MDE
Originally posted by: Dug
Originally posted by: ribbon13
What's wrong with the suggestions I made :confused:
Click to expand...

Kind of hard to test an Intel 64bit system with AMD hardware.
Intel will have the largest 64bit desktop customer base, so it would make sense to test on that platform. That and we already have an AMD 64bit system to test with.

Still hard to find exactely which motherboards have a BIOS that supports these new cpu's with 64bit OS. Some of the 915's say they do, but many don't. (According to Intel's website.) Asus, MSI, etc don't make it clear either.

Thanks for the link stevty2889. That would be perfect except I forgot to mention I need an ATX motherboard.
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Click the links smart guy.
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I did and I appreciate the links. I went to the Soltek website. Again no mention of EMT64T support. Which is why I said some of the 915's do and many don't, smart guy.
I know ribbon13 was kidding with the comment about AMD, but I put in why so I don't get any more AMD comments.
 
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Originally posted by: Dug
Originally posted by: MDE
Originally posted by: Dug
Originally posted by: ribbon13
What's wrong with the suggestions I made :confused:
Click to expand...

Kind of hard to test an Intel 64bit system with AMD hardware.
Intel will have the largest 64bit desktop customer base, so it would make sense to test on that platform. That and we already have an AMD 64bit system to test with.

Still hard to find exactely which motherboards have a BIOS that supports these new cpu's with 64bit OS. Some of the 915's say they do, but many don't. (According to Intel's website.) Asus, MSI, etc don't make it clear either.

Thanks for the link stevty2889. That would be perfect except I forgot to mention I need an ATX motherboard.
Click to expand...
Click the links smart guy.
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I did and I appreciate the links. I went to the Soltek website. Again no mention of EMT64T support. Which is why I said some of the 915's do and many don't, smart guy.
I know ribbon13 was kidding with the comment about AMD, but I put in why so I don't get any more AMD comments.
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Why would some 915 chipsets have 64 bit support and some not? Intel isn't that stupid. Ever think the boards not saying they support 64 bit were probably made before Intel announced the 6xx series? Ever think to check Intel's site to see if their chipset supports their CPU? I did.
 
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Dug

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Originally posted by: MDE
Originally posted by: Dug
Originally posted by: MDE
Originally posted by: Dug
Originally posted by: ribbon13
What's wrong with the suggestions I made :confused:
Click to expand...

Kind of hard to test an Intel 64bit system with AMD hardware.
Intel will have the largest 64bit desktop customer base, so it would make sense to test on that platform. That and we already have an AMD 64bit system to test with.

Still hard to find exactely which motherboards have a BIOS that supports these new cpu's with 64bit OS. Some of the 915's say they do, but many don't. (According to Intel's website.) Asus, MSI, etc don't make it clear either.

Thanks for the link stevty2889. That would be perfect except I forgot to mention I need an ATX motherboard.
Click to expand...
Click the links smart guy.
Click to expand...


I did and I appreciate the links. I went to the Soltek website. Again no mention of EMT64T support. Which is why I said some of the 915's do and many don't, smart guy.
I know ribbon13 was kidding with the comment about AMD, but I put in why so I don't get any more AMD comments.
Click to expand...

Why would some 915 chipsets have 64 bit support and some not? Intel isn't that stupid. Ever think the boards not saying they support 64 bit were probably made before Intel announced the 6xx series? Ever think to check Intel's site to see if their chipset supports their CPU? I did.
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Gee, I don't know. Why is there 11 different 915chipsets. Maybe because they all have different features?
If they were made before the 6xx series was released, and there's no bios update yet, then tell me exactely where it says that it will work. Your link does not say. Did you ever think that maybe there's a reason why some of the 915chipsets specifically say they support EM64T and some don't. Maybe because there is no support for certain versions, maybe they haven't updated there website, maybe there's no BIOS update. That is why I posted this question.

It's not black and white. Maybe it is, it's just not posted anywhere, and I'm not taking your assumption that it is, unless you work for Intel. Maybe I'll pm Wingznut.
 
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cyberknight

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isn't there an issue with the Intel 6XX series that you would need 4GB of RAM to enable the 64-bit extensions in order ot use Windows?
 
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stevty2889

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Originally posted by: cyberknight
isn't there an issue with the Intel 6XX series that you would need 4GB of RAM to enable the 64-bit extensions in order ot use Windows?
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Huh? No you don't need 4gig of ram in order to enable the 64bit extensions..where did you hear that?
 
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ribbon13

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AFAIK all 9XX chipsets support EMT64 because the chipset has nothing to do with it? :confused:

Can anyone point me specifically to a 9XX chipset that doesn't support EMT64?
 
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Dug

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Originally posted by: ribbon13
AFAIK all 9XX chipsets support EMT64 because the chipset has nothing to do with it? :confused:

Can anyone point me specifically to a 9XX chipset that doesn't support EMT64?
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None of the 915's did when they came out. From what I am gathering, they are slowly starting bios updates to allow it.

Another important point that hasn't yet received much attention is support for EMT64, the name of Intel's 64-bit extension technology, which is essentially similar to the AMD64 initiative. Intel's documentation currently claims that EMT64 is only supported on the 925X. If that's indeed the case, and there is no way to add the feature with a BIOS tweak, mainstream users might find themselves out of luck once Microsoft unveils its Windows XP 64-bit Edition. Intel's Dan Snyder confirms that 925X is currently the only validated workstation platform with support for the Pentium 4 featuring EMT64. Whether the 915P will eventually incorporate the technology remains to be seen.
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