help! We need replacement for Net2phone (home landline style phone)

GunsMadeAmericaFree

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About a year and a half ago, I saw an ad for the "Net2Duo", a device that plugs in to your router on one end, and lets you hook any home phone up to the other end. We tested it for a few months before deciding to drop our ~$25 a month home phone service. The Net2Phone service seemed to work ok at first, so I signed up for 3 years of service for less than $3 a month. (saving us about $22 monthly)

Trouble is, even though our Internet speed has doubled since then, we regularly have issues with the service. About 90% of the time it works fine, but the other 10% of the time, people have to call multiple times to leave a message. Occasionally, we simply can't get through to local numbers that we know should be in service, like my local doctor. Often we have to wait up to 45 or 50 seconds until a call we dialed actually starts ringing. Sometimes (and this is the worst) when someone tries to call and we are already on the phone, they get an automated message about the line being out of service, rather than it just being busy. (not acceptable)

I have a new job starting next week, and my boss already had trouble getting through once. It won't be much of an issue for the first couple of months, but after that the job becomes part time on call, and they would be calling often to see if I can come in. I realized that it is time to replace the net2phone service, but the question is, with what?

We are presently paying $15 a month for 2 Megabits per second internet from Time Warner. Add the $3 for Net2Duo, and our total monthly cost for phone and internet is $18. That would be great if it was dependable, but it is not working well enough. I had previously been using Google Voice and an Obihai 100, but then it suddenly stopped working for about 6 months due to a Google change of policy. I'm wary of depending on that and having a repeat loss of service. I'm also wary of going back to regular old landline service, since we got loads and loads of political & sales calls, despite being on the do not call list.

My wife says we should only contemplate hardware solutions - such as Magicjack, etc. I originally bypassed MagicJack, since there were a lot of negative reviews.

If you currently use a hardware (bridge between a regular phone and router) VOIP solution at home, I would really be interested in hearing about your experience. Obviously, I realize now we will probably have to pay more than the current <$3 monthly cost, but I'm still hoping we might be able to keep the cost under $10 a month. Also, my wife absolutely hates that Net2Phone requires us to enter the area code for every single call. Something that would not force us to do that would be fantastic.

Thanks for any suggestions! (we are not interested in cell phones, just home landline replacement)
 

snoturtle

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Have you looked at Vonage?
We have had a line through them for many years with no issues.
They do offer a plan that is 12.99 per month
 

MontyAC

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You can try obitalk or ooma. both are VOIP systems. Obitalk is the cheapest, using Google Voice.
 

Fritzo

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Ooma is the best by far. I've had mine over a year, bought it for my parents and in-laws and they love it too.
 

JEDI

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You can try obitalk or ooma. both are VOIP systems. Obitalk is the cheapest, using Google Voice.

yup.. waiting for the next obihai hardware sale b4 I buy.
then will port my landline and finally get rid of all those stupid taxes + fees.

$10 landline + $11 taxes/fees = $21/month :mad:

obihai is free?
ooma = ~$4/month for e-911 (location of your house)
 
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RossMAN

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A few options:
1) I would rule out your broadband connection, modem and/or router being the culprit. Make sure to check your routers QoS. Consider posting a thread in the networking forum with your equipment including router model #.

2) Ooma is the best VOIP provider for the average consumer. If you're looking for reliable and solid service, we've been a happy user for several years. Here's what you'll need:
Broadband internet
Corded or cordless phones
Ooma hardware (around $80 - $99 sometimes on sale)
Pay fees/taxes which is around $5, ours is about $3.50/mo.

We've used Ooma extensively calling landlines, cell phones, Skype, other Ooma customers and even international numbers all with exceptional call quality. Unfortunately I can't comment on voicemail because we mostly use our Ooma line for outbound calls and rarely receive incoming calls.

3) Wireless home phone which is currently on sale and requires a $15/mo plan which offers unlimited nationwide calling. Since it's based on cellular networks, I would recommend placing it near a window. Activate it online, plug it in, plug in your phone and you're ready to roll. It's basically a cell phone without the portability of a handset. If it's determined your broadband is too slow for VOIP and you refuse to get a cell phone, this would be my #1 recommendation. Last year I helped someone who doesn't have internet or a cell phone set this up, they're very happy with the call quality and price.

4) I know you're not interested in cell phones but it would be helpful to know why? While I await your response, I'll suggest buying an off contract cell phone with prepaid service which is around $25/mo unlimited calls with voicemail or $0.05/min pay as you go. Cell phone + DECT cordless phones = awesome. You don't have to buy a $649 iPhone or sign your life away with a 2 year contract. If you're willing to reconsider a cell phone, there are plenty of great options anywhere from $50 - $250 with monthly plans to match.
 

GunsMadeAmericaFree

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Thanks for the vonage suggestion - I will look into that.

Why no cell phone? Well, a number of reasons.

I) I'm a penny pincher, and I absolutely HATE recurring fees. The idea of adding multiple ones for various members of the family makes me wretch

II) I don't like being distracted while driving. I once went in the ditch when changing radio stations. I have often missed exits on the highway because someone got me involved in an earnest discussion.

III) I used to do telephone tech support, fielding thousands upon thousands of help calls, being on the phone for 8-10 hours a day.

Those are the primary reasons.
 

vailr

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There's a pre-paid cell phone service that could serve as backup for whatever internet-based phone service. The cheapest that I'm aware of is via PagePlus $10/100 minutes/4 months pre-paid service plan. PagePlus is a Verizon air time re-seller, so a CDMA cell phone would be needed. I use a Motorola Moto G (2013) running Android KitKat 4.44 on PagePlus. Voice calls and text only; data is configured to be only via free WiFi. They also offer plans with more air time, such as: $80/1000 minutes.
Another option: there are table-top cell phone devices that can interface with your home POTS wiring, so that corded phones would work throughout the house, but while disconnected from the outside wired telephone wiring. The device resembles the Ooma Telo, but functions as a cell phone to wired phone interface, and does not require or use an internet connection.
 
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Pulsar

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Ooma, Ooma, and Ooma. That's all you need to know. Ports numbers in and out painlessly too if you don't like 'em.
 

DesiPower

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Which of your requirement(s) does Google voice not meet? I used to have Vonage, I switched to GV and dont miss anything besides voicemail on home phone device. Still get the notification on the tablet which part of the dedicated GV home network, used for video calls. Porting number was a bit tricky, took about a 4 days.
 

Thump553

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I'm very happy with OOMA-but the porting isn't painless financially-$40 to port in. Been using them for the better part of a year with zero problems.
 

cronos

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Sorry to hear that NetTalk doesn't work for you. I'm on my fourth year with NetTalk now. There are some hiccups with the service but maybe just once a year for a couple of days tops, but that's it. That craziness where people trying to call in and got a message that the service is not available (no problem with outgoing calls) also happened to me about a month ago, but it was fixed in about a day.
 

Iron Woode

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I used Nettalk and had some minor issues. I used it for 2 years and then went with a completely free system from Freephoneline.ca, since I am in Canada.

I use an sp122 ATA with my cordless dect 6 phones. Works fantastic. I used it on my old 6mbps service and my current 30mbps service. Never had a bandwidth problem.

perhaps there is something similar you can buy.
 

Pulsar

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I'm very happy with OOMA-but the porting isn't painless financially-$40 to port in. Been using them for the better part of a year with zero problems.

Port your old number to Google Voice for $20. Then you own it for life and you can have it ring any numbers you want for free, including your new OOMA number. You can also have it set to ring your cell phone at the same time.

This is the scheme I've been using for a long time.
 

esquared

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Ooma is the best by far. I've had mine over a year, bought it for my parents and in-laws and they love it too.

Ooma is great. Had the crappy magicjack for a few years and then bought the ooma.

It's about 5.00 a month for me for the taxes.

Right now it's on sale at amazon plus there's a 10% off coupon that can be applied.

It's 89.99 for the phone which is cheaper than what I paid.
http://www.amazon.com/Ooma-Telo-Free-Phone-Service/dp/B00I4XMEYA?
 

esquared

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link to 10% coupon?
your amazon link is $99

Hmm, I still see it:

Coupon:
Saving 10% more
Your coupon will be applied at checkout. Details

I looked with another browser and its not there.

I had clipped it, and its in my account. i was going to buy another as a gift.

Here's where the amazon coupons are.
http://www.amazon.com/Coupons/b/ref=vp_c_AYK7CUNL5NGB4_tcs?_encoding=UTF8&node=2231352011

The coupon I clipped was on that ooma/amazon page. Sorry for the misinformation.
 

RY62

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So happy with obi and google voice. Zero monthly fees.

This.

There was talk that Google + Obi would stop working but it never did. Google and Obi are now teamed up so I don't expect any problems in the future.

Service has been excellent and it's free unless you want to spend about $10/ year for Anveo E911 service.
 

JEDI

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$89 is a good price assuming you can use the coupon.

What are you currently using for voice calls at home?

Verizon copper land line. :(
also have Comcast xfinity for internet. might switch to Verizon fios after my 2yr contract is up.

leaning towards obi + google voice since it cheaper porting + cheaper e911.
 

Insomniator

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I) I'm a penny pincher, and I absolutely HATE recurring fees. The idea of adding multiple ones for various members of the family makes me wretch

II) I don't like being distracted while driving. I once went in the ditch when changing radio stations. I have often missed exits on the highway because someone got me involved in an earnest discussion.

wow