HELP...want to purchase an air cooler for overclocking q6600...

[ayushp13]

hello friends,
i want to purchase an exellent air cooler for q6600...for overclocking it to max 3.9ghz...i have already purchased cooler master hyper 212 with extra silent 120mm blue led fan...i.e, heatsink with total two 120mm fans...but all my friends say that it is not good enough air cooler...but i decided to purchase hyper 212 only after reading its review on frostytech...http://www.frostytech.com/arti...iew.cfm?articleID=2206
now iam thinking of buying another air cooler as my friend suggested i.e, thermalright ultra 120...i also read its review on various websites and found it the best and the top most air cooler above all...but when i visited the website of thermalright to see the detail specs of the cooler i found that, it was provided without fans i.e, fanless and only supports core 2 duo and core 2 quad...and was costlier than hyper 212...also hyper 212 is far good looking than thermalright ultra 120 also it is provided with one silent 120mm blue led fan and supports all core 2 duo, core 2 quad, corei7 processors...i just want to know that if i purchase thermalright ultra 120 heatsink with extra silent two 120mm fans which will be costlier for me...is it worth the money???

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Nah, I don't think it's worth the extra money. Actually, there are heatsinks around the same price as the Cooler Master 212 that perform better (although can be louder). Just look at the results: http://www.frostytech.com/arti...?articleid=2333&page=5

On newegg, the Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer is cheaper than the CM212: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...nbeam%20core%20contact

 

[masteryoda34]

You're considering purchasing a THIRD heatsink to try and get your OC to 3.9??

Most Q6600's won't go that high. Your money would be better spent on a Q9550 if you want better OC's.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: masteryoda34
You're considering purchasing a THIRD heatsink to try and get your OC to 3.9??

Most Q6600's won't go that high. Your money would be better spent on a Q9550 if you want better OC's.

+1

OP, do you realize that you are looking for over a 60% OC?

Originally posted by: ayushp13
...but when i visited the website of thermalright to see the detail specs of the cooler i found that, it was provided without fans i.e, fanless and only supports core 2 duo and core 2 quad...

Umm, your q6600 is a Core 2 Quad... :roll:

Honestly, from your post, it doesn't sound like you are ready for all this...

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: masteryoda34
You're considering purchasing a THIRD heatsink to try and get your OC to 3.9??

Most Q6600's won't go that high. Your money would be better spent on a Q9550 if you want better OC's.

+1

OP, do you realize that you are looking for over a 60% OC?

Originally posted by: ayushp13
...but when i visited the website of thermalright to see the detail specs of the cooler i found that, it was provided without fans i.e, fanless and only supports core 2 duo and core 2 quad...

Umm, your q6600 is a Core 2 Quad... :roll:

Honestly, from your post, it doesn't sound like you are ready for all this...

Yet another poster who got caught into the Q6600 and 3.6GHz plus OC internet rumor mill.

Search in this forum and you'll see many people are struggling to get Q6600's over ~3.2GHz let alone to 3.9GHz.

Furthermore, if you want the best cooler, why is budget a question?

 

[PCTC2]

On AIR, (of course I had a B3 Q6600, not a G0), I was able to achieve ~ 3.0-3.2GHz on a good day. You're not going to get near 3.9GHz on air, or even water.
On water, I was able to get 3.4GHz stable, 3.6GHz stable bench runs, and squeezing out a 3.8GHz suicide run once. A G0 is better (theoretically) but I doubt ever above 3.4GHz.

OP, spending more money is not worth it IMO. The best would probably be a Thermalright Ultra120 Extreme or so, but just stick with what you have. A lot of people expect overclocks of up to 4.0GHz but most people, especially on air cooling, will not achieve those clocks.

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: Gillbot

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: masteryoda34
You're considering purchasing a THIRD heatsink to try and get your OC to 3.9??

Most Q6600's won't go that high. Your money would be better spent on a Q9550 if you want better OC's.

+1

OP, do you realize that you are looking for over a 60% OC?

Originally posted by: ayushp13
...but when i visited the website of thermalright to see the detail specs of the cooler i found that, it was provided without fans i.e, fanless and only supports core 2 duo and core 2 quad...

Umm, your q6600 is a Core 2 Quad... :roll:

Honestly, from your post, it doesn't sound like you are ready for all this...

Yet another poster who got caught into the Q6600 and 3.6GHz plus OC internet rumor mill.

Search in this forum and you'll see many people are struggling to get Q6600's over ~3.2GHz let alone to 3.9GHz.

Furthermore, if you want the best cooler, why is budget a question?

I am with total agreement of comments from the original posts.

From what it sounds like from my standpoint, you will not get near 3.9 with a Q6600. Maybe 3.2 - 3.4 if, and only if you get a very good chip. Good luck!

 

[Stumps]

you might want to consider water cooling if you want to even have a chance of reaching 3.6ghz let alone 3.9ghz, I had to use water cooling to get my older B3 Q6600 ES to 3.6ghz and even then it runs bloody hot at full load 60c+ on a warm day, mind you I am using a pretty ordinary water cooling kit (see sig), I am considering purchasing a new case so I can add the 240mm x 120mm radiator that came with my kit to my setup to drop temps down, the standard 120mm x 120mm radiator and fan is just barely up to the task.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: Stumps
you might want to consider water cooling if you want to even have a chance of reaching 3.6ghz let alone 3.9ghz, I had to use water cooling to get my older B3 Q6600 ES to 3.6ghz and even then it runs bloody hot at full load 60c+ on a warm day, mind you I am using a pretty ordinary water cooling kit (see sig), I am considering purchasing a new case so I can add the 240mm x 120mm radiator that came with my kit to my setup to drop temps down, the standard 120mm x 120mm radiator and fan is just barely up to the task.

Watercooling will only help if temperature is limiting your overclock. Some chips hit a frequency wall before they reach their temp wall.

 

[Markfw]

Out of the 6 Q6600's I have, and with the best motherboards, and air cooling, I was able to get 3.6 on ONE of them, but not stable. 3.55 was the highest stable I got, on a DQ6 ($300 motherboard) and a TRUE extreme factory lapped, 700 watt Fortron PSU, and memory proven to run at 519 mhz.

And temps were NOT a problem, 55c full load ?

The odds of hitting 3.9 are astromonical IMO.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Out of the 6 Q6600's I have, and with the best motherboards, and air cooling, I was able to get 3.6 on ONE of them, but not stable. 3.55 was the highest stable I got, on a DQ6 ($300 motherboard) and a TRUE extreme factory lapped, 700 watt Fortron PSU, and memory proven to run at 519 mhz.

And temps were NOT a problem, 55c full load ?

The odds of hitting 3.9 are astromonical IMO.

What are your typical stable overclocks on each of your Q6600s?

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Gillbot

Originally posted by: Stumps
you might want to consider water cooling if you want to even have a chance of reaching 3.6ghz let alone 3.9ghz, I had to use water cooling to get my older B3 Q6600 ES to 3.6ghz and even then it runs bloody hot at full load 60c+ on a warm day, mind you I am using a pretty ordinary water cooling kit (see sig), I am considering purchasing a new case so I can add the 240mm x 120mm radiator that came with my kit to my setup to drop temps down, the standard 120mm x 120mm radiator and fan is just barely up to the task.

Watercooling will only help if temperature is limiting your overclock. Some chips hit a frequency wall before they reach their temp wall.

People also will use higher Vcore on water than they would on air though.


There is alot that goes into quad OCing that makes it different than a dual.

You have to make sure you are giving your northbridge a nice bump in voltage. Also, an FSB wall on your mobo is alot more common.

All in all, it looks like the OP should do a little more research. Dont give up though, you will get the hang of it. We were all noobs that listened to our brother's best friend's advice like it was gospel, when really he didnt know sh*t.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: cusideabelincoln

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Out of the 6 Q6600's I have, and with the best motherboards, and air cooling, I was able to get 3.6 on ONE of them, but not stable. 3.55 was the highest stable I got, on a DQ6 ($300 motherboard) and a TRUE extreme factory lapped, 700 watt Fortron PSU, and memory proven to run at 519 mhz.

And temps were NOT a problem, 55c full load ?

The odds of hitting 3.9 are astromonical IMO.

What are your typical stable overclocks on each of your Q6600s?

see sig (although a coulbe might have been lowered. Basically 3.2 is almost guaranteed, 3.3-3.4 is typical, and 3.5-3.6 is tough. Above that the odds skyrocket.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: cusideabelincoln

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Out of the 6 Q6600's I have, and with the best motherboards, and air cooling, I was able to get 3.6 on ONE of them, but not stable. 3.55 was the highest stable I got, on a DQ6 ($300 motherboard) and a TRUE extreme factory lapped, 700 watt Fortron PSU, and memory proven to run at 519 mhz.

And temps were NOT a problem, 55c full load ?

The odds of hitting 3.9 are astromonical IMO.

What are your typical stable overclocks on each of your Q6600s?

see sig (although a coulbe might have been lowered. Basically 3.2 is almost guaranteed, 3.3-3.4 is typical, and 3.5-3.6 is tough. Above that the odds skyrocket.

I don't sig my rigs but I will add to mark's testimony that I have five Q6600's all G0's and they are all clocked to 3.3GHz (9x367), all are lapped and have lapped tuniqs. Volts are sub-1.3V and temps at small FFT are in the mid-50's.

I tried pushing them up to 3.6GHz but the Vcore required to do it and be stable was ridiculuos to me (>1.4V) and the temps went high as well but more importantly to me the power consumption as measured at the wall just went crazy (increased nearly 50%).

3.3GHz was the voltage/power-consumption sweetspot for me. If I had only one Q6600 versus bunches of them then I'd be more inclined to OC the absolute crap out of it, but getting above 3.6GHz 24x7 small FFT stable on air would take a real special Q6600.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
We were all noobs that listened to our brother's best friend's advice like it was gospel, when really he didnt know sh*t.

HEY!

you talking about me?

Seeing how i probably hold the largest collection on this forum with 4ghz quads.

OP, grab a E0 Q9550

Much smarter solution to your goal with better promises at the end.