Help settle a bet: thunderbird = AMD Athlon

[MajesticMoose]

I need some help to settle a bet. This guy I know is convinced that a thunderbird is not the same thing as an Athlon. I need pictures to prove it to him (packaging, boxing, etc.) thanks.

 

[geno]

haha, how much was the bet for? I hope you have fun proving him wrong!

 

[Sephiroth_IX]

Athlon with "cache technology" or some PR BS = Thunderbird.

Any Socket AMD Athlon is a Thunderbird.

 

[NaughtyusMaximus]

First, look here, and remember this quote:

<<The Thunderbird will still use the name Athlon>>

The thunderbird is an updated version of the Athlon. Thunderbird was the codename used while the updated version of the Athlon was still in development. For all purposes, they (Athlon/Tbird) are the same thing.

You have to remember though, that there are differences between the two. The 'classic' Athlon had off-die cache, and was in slot form. The new Athlons, or Thunderbirds, have on-die cache, and use a socketed form.

 

[MajesticMoose]

It may sound stupid but the prize is a &quot;slinky&quot;; not the trademark one but a piece off scrap-unexpanded aluminum honeycomb, which was free. They are a lot of fun for those annoying times otherise all waking hours.

Moose

 

[geno]

slinky's kick ass, I'd make a bet on one!

 

[StageLeft]

Its like this: Is a P3 and a P3E the same thing; ie. a pentium 3? Yes, the P3e/b is merely a different version but inherently both are P3's - the same applies here. A thunderbird most definitely is an athlon.

 

[MajesticMoose]

but this is so much better than a slinky; it looks like a solid metal block but then its all bendy-flex and spiftacular.

 

[Bryan]

It's just like a Coppermine or Katmai is the same as a PIII, just a different codenamed chip.

 

[Harvey]

Hey, Moose -- Can I get in on your side of the bet?

A Thunderbird is:

A Ford car of various styles and vintages.
A hotel/casino in Las Vegas
A brand of cheap dreadful substance they still manage to call wine.
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and the fastet current production Athlon from AMD.

Here are links to some of Anand's T-Bird reviews:

AMD Athlon &quot;Thunderbird&quot; 1 GHz / 800 MHz

AMD Athlon &quot;Thunderbird&quot; 1.1 GHz

AMD Athlon &quot;Thunderbird&quot; 1.2 GHz &amp; Duron 800 MHz

My e-mail addy is in my profile, so let me know when you're sending my 1.2 GHz T-bird (my share of our winnings).

OK -- I'll settle for a 1 GHz chip and OC it.

 

[MWink]

I am the one who made the bet. I already gave him a picture of a T-Bird and he still didn't believe me. He wants a picture of the box. Does anyone have a picture of a T-Bird box they could send me. Thanks in advance.

 

[noxipoo]

look it up on stores on the net. they have pictures of the box sometimes.

 

[DABANSHEE]

The simple answer is not all Athlons are T'birds, but all T'birds are Athlons (unless Durons are consided to have T'bird cores to, only with less on-chip L2 cache).

So you are wrong MajesticMoose, saying that T'birds are the same as Athlons is like sayings dogs are the same thing as animals.

 

[veryape]

Depends on how you look at. Its an Athlon,but,its a Thunderbird Athlon. If you went to a store that still sold Classic Athlons and wanted a T-Bird,but asked for a Athlon,you might be a little upset when you got home. So you are both right.

Slinkys for all.

 

[Imaginer]

Show him a Athlon box retail socket A processor in the 1.2 Mhz range and since the thunderbird is in a socket A form and slot A form while classic is in the slot form, find somewhere that says socket A on the box and you have it made.

 

[Mem]

Tell him to phone AMD,if they cannot convince him nobody can.

 

[MWink]

DABANSHEE: Actually, I would be the one that is wrong. I am the one who made the bet.

The person I made the bet with was claiming that the Thunder Bird is NOT an Athlon. I got the proof from Bunta and will show him tomorrow. I know he will not pay up but I AM going to make him admit that he is wrong.

BTW, thanks Mike.

 

[Tripleshot]

NaughtyusMaximus

I got news for you friend. T birds came in slot A as well as socket A. I have built them. The cpu was stamped with the &quot;a&quot; designation for Tbird. I can still buy them from my supplier. There are limited AMD authorized motherboards for them,but I used an MSI board. Worked very well.