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Leros

Lifer
Jul 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Kelemvor
Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: Kelemvor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
ferral cats are like rats in the us, there are too many
and they spend their time killing millions of birds:p

That's not the issue. The issue is that if you kill off the cats from a certain area, all that happens is cats from other areas spread to take over the empty area. However, if you spay/neuter the cats from an area and put them back, then they still control the area but they can't reproduce so the numbers stop growing.

Your logic is faulty.

Their numbers will stop growing, then the cats from the other areas will move in to even things out.

That's not how nature works. Every pride has their territory and they defend it. If you wipe out a group, there's none left to defend it so another group moves in. IF they are there but just stop breeding, they are still there and own the area. No other group will move in and the numbers stop growing.

Go read the site linked up top and do some research and you'll see hwo it really works.

If they stop breeding, there won't be any future generation. After a few years, there will be no cats left.

Are we talking neutering all of them or just some of them?
 

Kelemvor

Lifer
May 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: Kelemvor
Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: Kelemvor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
ferral cats are like rats in the us, there are too many
and they spend their time killing millions of birds:p

That's not the issue. The issue is that if you kill off the cats from a certain area, all that happens is cats from other areas spread to take over the empty area. However, if you spay/neuter the cats from an area and put them back, then they still control the area but they can't reproduce so the numbers stop growing.

Your logic is faulty.

Their numbers will stop growing, then the cats from the other areas will move in to even things out.

That's not how nature works. Every pride has their territory and they defend it. If you wipe out a group, there's none left to defend it so another group moves in. IF they are there but just stop breeding, they are still there and own the area. No other group will move in and the numbers stop growing.

Go read the site linked up top and do some research and you'll see hwo it really works.

If they stop breeding, there won't be any future generation. After a few years, there will be no cats left.

Are we talking neutering all of them or just some of them?

Cats generally live 10-15 years if not more... Sure, eventually they will all die out but then you just have to TNR the new group. SO once every 15 years. Much less than every 6 months if you just wipe everything out and let a new group move in...
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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A feral cat has a life span closer to 2 years than 10-15. For many 5-6 is lucky.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Kelemvor
Originally posted by: alkemyst
A feral cat has a life span closer to 2 years than 10-15. For many 5-6 is lucky.

That's actually one of the bigggest misconceptions about feral cats.
http://alleycat.org/visitor.html

So is when people think feral cats are what's killing off birds
http://alleycat.org/AntiCruelty/threat.html

That fact is more than likely comparing an outdoor cat with a feral. If they are saying ferals live just as long as an indoor cat (even if you skipped veternary care), they would be very wrong.

The bird thing is like comparing lawn equipment vs a car to the greenhouse effect. What pisses off many people are the ferals that hunt their bird feeders. That's the main issue many have, but then they usually have a problem with squirrels stealing the feed too.

I am pro-feral cat socialization (in the sense of making them more able to live around people, not people friendly), I understand alot about this issue.