Help protect our rights to legally backup!

[csyberblue]

I think this is pretty important.

here is the slashdot article about it

You can go here to sign up to call your local senator to voice your opinion.


Cliff Notes

big companies are trying to ban our right to legally copy things we own. You can contact your local senator to voice your opinion, the 2nd link will give you a time and the appropriate numbers to call.

 

[bmacd]

ya, let's put a stop to them stopping piracy. I hate paying for software. seriously.

-=bmacd=-

 

[RagingBITCH]

Does that count as ripping MP3s to our HD, or making "backups" of CDs? I don't think I've ever made a "backup" copy for "archive" purposes. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to lose your $xx or $xxx or $xxxx piece of software?

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Does that count as ripping MP3s to our HD, or making "backups" of CDs? I don't think I've ever made a "backup" copy for "archive" purposes. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to lose your $xx or $xxx or $xxxx piece of software?

Well, I still buy CDs. And when I do that, I like to take them in the car with me when I head out. So I make a 1 to 1 copy of the CD immediately onto a blank disc so that if my car ever gets broken into, the most the thief will make off with is a couple of copied CDs.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Does that count as ripping MP3s to our HD, or making "backups" of CDs? I don't think I've ever made a "backup" copy for "archive" purposes. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to lose your $xx or $xxx or $xxxx piece of software?

I don't know about you, but I think a folder full of burned CDs is a lot less of a theft concern in my car than a folder full of real ones.

- M4H

 

[ABitTooSpicy]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Does that count as ripping MP3s to our HD, or making "backups" of CDs? I don't think I've ever made a "backup" copy for "archive" purposes. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to lose your $xx or $xxx or $xxxx piece of software?

Well, I still buy CDs. And when I do that, I like to take them in the car with me when I head out. So I make a 1 to 1 copy of the CD immediately onto a blank disc so that if my car ever gets broken into, the most the thief will make off with is a couple of copied CDs.

Yeah, I have a CD MP3 player in my car, and as soon as I purchase a cd, it gets converted to MP3s...

and all the imported cds that cost crazy money, does anyone NOT back them up??

 

[Pantoot]

Originally posted by: bmacd
ya, let's put a stop to them stopping piracy. I hate paying for software. seriously.

-=bmacd=-

You should see my four year old handle his "finding nemo" game.
You would want to make a copy of it too.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Does that count as ripping MP3s to our HD, or making "backups" of CDs? I don't think I've ever made a "backup" copy for "archive" purposes. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to lose your $xx or $xxx or $xxxx piece of software?

I've got 2 kids, who when they were around 8 to 12 years of age, were quite careless with cd's. THEY're not the ones paying $50 for the xbox games, *I* am. Personally, *I* enjoy playing the games as well and am not going to lose $50 to teach them a lesson about taking care of their things. Let them learn that lesson with their bikes or something. That means: Backup of the original game.

IF I could send in a scratched CD or DVD and get it replaced with a new one for a nominal fee (just a little more than it costs them to manufacture one, say 2 or 3 dollars, then I'd be happy without the right to make a back-up copy.

 

[whoiswes]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
IF I could send in a scratched CD or DVD and get it replaced with a new one for a nominal fee (just a little more than it costs them to manufacture one, say 2 or 3 dollars, then I'd be happy without the right to make a back-up copy.

EXACTLY.

if anything would happen to an original copy of a purchased title (whatever it may be), you can't just call the company up and ask for a replacement - they'd laugh in your face. you would be forced to buy a COPY of something you already own.

making backups is nothing other than protecting your investment, whether it be a $15 CD or a $1000 software bundle.

i don't agree with piracy in general, but the entire music/movie/software industry needs to rethink some of it's practices and policies because things are starting to get WAY out of hand.

 

[n0cmonkey]

You mean they won't send me a new copy of a DVD if I accidentally drop and break mine? 😕

I plan on testing that eventually, just haven't destroyed a DVD yet. 😛

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Does that count as ripping MP3s to our HD, or making "backups" of CDs? I don't think I've ever made a "backup" copy for "archive" purposes. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to lose your $xx or $xxx or $xxxx piece of software?

Well, I still buy CDs. And when I do that, I like to take them in the car with me when I head out. So I make a 1 to 1 copy of the CD immediately onto a blank disc so that if my car ever gets broken into, the most the thief will make off with is a couple of copied CDs.

Exactly! But now that I have an mp3 player, I simply rip the CDs to playlists on the player.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Does that count as ripping MP3s to our HD, or making "backups" of CDs? I don't think I've ever made a "backup" copy for "archive" purposes. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to lose your $xx or $xxx or $xxxx piece of software?

Well, I still buy CDs. And when I do that, I like to take them in the car with me when I head out. So I make a 1 to 1 copy of the CD immediately onto a blank disc so that if my car ever gets broken into, the most the thief will make off with is a couple of copied CDs.

Oh well that I agree with 100% - I do that too. I don't carry a single original music CD in my car, especially not after my deck was jacked last year :|

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
You mean they won't send me a new copy of a DVD if I accidentally drop and break mine? 😕

I plan on testing that eventually, just haven't destroyed a DVD yet. 😛

If you send them the busted disc, maybe. 😛

- M4H

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
You mean they won't send me a new copy of a DVD if I accidentally drop and break mine? 😕

I plan on testing that eventually, just haven't destroyed a DVD yet. 😛

If you send them the busted disc, maybe. 😛

- M4H

I can live with that. Wouldn't be much different than any other RMA, would it?

 

[TwiceOver]

About the only thing I back up is CDs. I rip them to my hard drive in 320kbs CBR MP3 and make my own CDs. I guess this would fall under illegal, but screw em'. If I spend that much money on a CD I intend to use it in ways that "I" choose to listen to it. If ripping a CD is illegal, wouldn't MP3 players then be illegal devices? We would all have to buy our music online.

 

[Frosty3799]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Does that count as ripping MP3s to our HD, or making "backups" of CDs? I don't think I've ever made a "backup" copy for "archive" purposes. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to lose your $xx or $xxx or $xxxx piece of software?

Well, I still buy CDs. And when I do that, I like to take them in the car with me when I head out. So I make a 1 to 1 copy of the CD immediately onto a blank disc so that if my car ever gets broken into, the most the thief will make off with is a couple of copied CDs.

Oh well that I agree with 100% - I do that too. I don't carry a single original music CD in my car, especially not after my deck was jacked last year :|

You just... negated your own point?

 

[Ausm]

Hey if I buy their product they can kiss my ass with what I would want to do with it AFTER the purchase.

Ausm

 

[Frosty3799]

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
About the only thing I back up is CDs. I rip them to my hard drive in 320kbs CBR MP3 and make my own CDs. I guess this would fall under illegal, but screw em'. If I spend that much money on a CD I intend to use it in ways that "I" choose to listen to it. If ripping a CD is illegal, wouldn't MP3 players then be illegal devices? We would all have to buy our music online.

not if you listened to private band's music, or grassroots-type bands that allow free copying of concerts.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Does that count as ripping MP3s to our HD, or making "backups" of CDs? I don't think I've ever made a "backup" copy for "archive" purposes. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to lose your $xx or $xxx or $xxxx piece of software?

Well, I still buy CDs. And when I do that, I like to take them in the car with me when I head out. So I make a 1 to 1 copy of the CD immediately onto a blank disc so that if my car ever gets broken into, the most the thief will make off with is a couple of copied CDs.

same here, i don't even put them into my car cd player before i make backups of them (my pioneer deck has this habit of leaving nasty marks on the outer edges of the discs, i think it's the rubber thing deteriorating), i take them right home and copy them and then they're stored away with no scratches. besides, cd-r's are way too cheap these days.

 

[TheGameIs21]

I will admit that I have looked at all links at slashdot and links from slashdot to other sites in regards to this. All that I read is talking about sharing the backup with others over P2P or by re-broadcasting over transmission media.

1. Sharing music/movies over P2P is illegal. There is no getting around that.
2. Making a copy of a CD via a blank CD or an MP3 and giving it to someone is illegal.
3. Making a backup is not illegal.
4. Pandora's box has been opened and there will be no way for RIAA to fix this. Just like with audio tapes, they can't track who gave a physical copy to who but it was/still is illegal.
5. Having an MP3 on an MP3 player is not illegal. There are MANY pay sites that you can get a song legit and you can make an MP3 of your owned CD.
6. Nothing about this is anti tech (per a poster on slashdot and many friends)
7. It doesn't matter who owns the music that is being pirated... Fact is: It is owned.

Take a look at this and explain to me where anyone's rights are being violated.

All of these complaints remind me of the door to door people I had coming to my house for about a year asking me to sign a petition to get rid of the Federal Income Tax. Confused, following blindly and completely unaware of reality.

 

[nakedfrog]

Bump for anyone who was planning on calling today, but forgot...