HELP!!! p4 heatsink feels like it will break the cpu

tylerlough

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I need help because when I try snap the levers it puts too much force it seems. I flexes the motherboard so it makes me nervous. Did this happen to anyone else. Any suggests. I need your help. It would be very nice if you could help me.
 

tad214

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just be careful with it, keep the board level, and if it is the CORRECT heatsink, go ahead and lock it down. sometimes they are a little hard headed. just make sure you keep the board LEVEL. if the board starts to bend, DO NOT force it. just stop and try it again. hope this sheds some light on the problem, but as long as it is the CORRECT heatsink for that cpu, it will go on.
DALE
 

Budman

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stop freaking out, snap the 4 hooks on the retention bracket and flip those 2 levers.

Don't worry the board will bend but that's the way it's supposed to go on,don't worry be happy. :)
 

tylerlough

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the funny thing is it's the stock intel cooler, oh well i will rig up somethin. I do have an albatron MB.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: Budman
stop freaking out, snap the 4 hooks on the retention bracket and flip those 2 levers.

Don't worry the board will bend but that's the way it's supposed to go on,don't worry be happy. :)

 

Jalapeno

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Originally posted by: Gunbuster
The board should flex, thats how intel designed it.

What are YOU smoking man? If the board bends, there is something wrong!

tylerlough - it is true some heatsinks are hard to mount, but the board should NOT bend! Make sure you put the board on a flat, solid surface, preferably antistatic. You can do this before you install your board into the computer case - makes it easier to handle. Just be patient and don't rush things...
 

Slogun

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I don't recall the stock HSF using too much force, especially not bending the mobo.

Make sure you have things seated properly before you push the levers.

It should not take an undue amount of force.
 

Duvie

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Well it is quite common that many of this heatsinks that bolt directly to the mobo and not hook to the rentention clip actually get some flex in the board....

You want some (a little) but not a lot.....


Jalapneo I suggest you talk to users of Alpha 8942, Swiftech mcx4000, Zalman 7000's, etc if they get some bend or flex in the board when installing it. Even without little tension on the screw/spring.....It is very common....
 

Slogun

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We're talking about the stock P4 cooler. The simplest HSF there is to install.

Some of my other systems use the bolt-through-the-mobo alpha and the screw-down Zalman 7000.

None of these HSFs bend the mobo.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: Slogun
We're talking about the stock P4 cooler. The simplest HSF there is to install.

Some of my other systems use the bolt-through-the-mobo alpha and the screw-down Zalman 7000.

None of these HSFs bend the mobo.


Well I guess you must be special...;) Trust me this happens to Thugs, Shimmishim, PastorJay, Olfart, etc...I am talking about slight flex/bend....NOticeable if you pick up board and look down the edge...


I know we are talking about the retention clip of the stock cooler but I was addressing Jalapeno's response that this should not happen as if never.....The fact is it does and my alpha with barely a few truns of the screws to secure it would have a lsight bend in the board. Ever since I have never seen it without this. I have seen some boards that feel thicker and those do not bend or flex as much...
 

Viper96720

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When you mount your board just make sure to use mounts in the middle area of the board and not just the edges. That should reduce flexing some. It'll flex a little still but not a lot. If the board is out on a flat surface it doesn't flex. At least mine didn't got one lying out I just tried it on using stock heatsink.
 

Big Lar

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I would have to say, that if this were me, I would triple check that the cpu was seated correctly if it takes that much tension to put the sink on.
 

boomerang

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For those that think the board is not supposed to bend, see this. Check the pics about halfway down.

You may not like it. I know I don't. But it's supposed to. Get over it.
 

Viper96720

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That's why I put the heatsink on with the board on a flat surface. Then it can't bend lay your hand on something flat and bend it like the video downward.
 

Fastcat

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Sometimes they go on a bit rough. My friend had the same problem with his stock hs that came with a 1800+ what I did was lay the heatsink on a flat surface and push down on both ends of the arm, this bent the arm a bit so as to not apply so much force, it worked good. You dont want to bend it very much at all though, just a little teeny bit.
 

InlineFive

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My motherboard (and maybe processor) flexed in when I had to force my 1.5LB heatsink on and it's still working...

-Por
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: boomerang
For those that think the board is not supposed to bend, see this. Check the pics about halfway down.

You may not like it. I know I don't. But it's supposed to. Get over it.

Good find!!! I knew that I ave way too many heatsinks over time to be crazy about this...Though it must have been really slight but I don't remember by AVC hsf on my 1.8a doing that much...
 

boomerang

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The first one I did flexed like the pic. I about freaked out! Fortunately there were some instructions that came with the processor saying it was a normal condition. Still, it's mighty scary.
 

Jalapeno

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Originally posted by: Duvie

You want some (a little) but not a lot.....


Jalapneo I suggest you talk to users of Alpha 8942, Swiftech mcx4000, Zalman 7000's, etc if they get some bend or flex in the board when installing it. Even without little tension on the screw/spring.....It is very common....



You, my friend, ARE smoking too much, whatever it is. Get it in your head that motherboards are NOT supposed to bend and flex. Do you have any idea how much can go wrong on a board with up to 8 layers when it bends/flexes too much?

To avoid any subsequent damage put the board on a flat, stable surface, preferably anti-static, and install the processor along with the heatsink/fan. Just to be EXTRA safe install your RAM as well. THEN put the board inside the case and you will not have any surprises.


Geeeez...
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: Jalapeno
Originally posted by: Duvie

You want some (a little) but not a lot.....


Jalapneo I suggest you talk to users of Alpha 8942, Swiftech mcx4000, Zalman 7000's, etc if they get some bend or flex in the board when installing it. Even without little tension on the screw/spring.....It is very common....



You, my friend, ARE smoking too much, whatever it is. Get it in your head that motherboards are NOT supposed to bend and flex. Do you have any idea how much can go wrong on a board with up to 8 layers when it bends/flexes too much?

To avoid any subsequent damage put the board on a flat, stable surface, preferably anti-static, and install the processor along with the heatsink/fan. Just to be EXTRA safe install your RAM as well. THEN put the board inside the case and you will not have any surprises.


Geeeez...



hey genius!! are you reading the links ppl have been kind enough to furnish and listen to the comment above??? The link has a great article where they list data from intel themselves says this is normal condition...I don't have direct quote but I am sure you can read!!!

I can figure out the cause of flexing to the multiple layers of the pcb but I am can also figure that a slight bend will have little effect.....I have had them for over 2-1/2 years now and no problems, along with my other ocing friedns that have been doing it for 2-3 years....

Go take another hit, dude!!!
 

mechBgon

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A picture's worth 1000 words, so... 1000 words :) To state the obvious, this is caused by the pull being exerted on the mobo itself instead of just the CPU socket.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: Jalapeno
You, my friend, ARE smoking too much, whatever it is. Get it in your head that motherboards are NOT supposed to bend and flex. Do you have any idea how much can go wrong on a board with up to 8 layers when it bends/flexes too much?
There are countless P4's out there on bowed motherboards, NOT having issues.

Really Jalepeno... It's a normal thing that won't cause problems.