Help Overclocking Xeon 5660 **Need to change old I7-930 settings

[DPOverLord]

I mistakenly posted in another Xeon thread thinking I made my own :-(

I just installed a Xeon 5660 and have it running at my customized i7-930 settings (Had a golden chip did about 4.4ghz). I bough it after reading the OCN thread about the Xeons killing the 930's

http://www.overclock.net/t/1461359/...5639-benchmarks-inside-longest-post-ever/0_70

Really would love some help on getting the most out of this chip.

Off the bat, the good news is that Windows loaded fine with these. Bad news is I have the Clock set to 21. Knowing this I should change it to 23. Can you guys look at my settings to give me your opinion?

These are my settings right now:

2. > Advanced Frequency Settings [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Ratio............................:21
CPU Frequency ........................(GHz):4.03GHZ 192x21
> Advanced CPU Core Features [Press Enter]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech..................:Disabled <<<<yes this is right
SHOULD THIS BE DISABLED?
CPU Cores Enabled..........................: ALL
CPU Multi Threading........................: ENABLED
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)....................:DISABLED just while your benching for a stable over clock, when stable this can be Enabled

C3/C6/C7 State Support.....................:Disabled this always stays disabled, even after a stable o/c or even if your running stock

CPU Thermal Monitor........................:Auto <<<<change to Enabled
CPU EIST Function..........................:DISABLED just while your benching for a stable over clock, when stable this can be Enabled

Bi-Directional PROCHOT.....................:Enabled
QPI Clock Ratio............................: X36
QPI Link Speed........................(GHz): 6.91GHZ
Uncore Clock Ratio.........................:X13
Uncore Frequency......................(MHz): 2496Mhz
>>>>> Standard Clock Control
Base Clock(BCLK) Control...................:Enabled
BCLK Frequency(MHz)........................:192 <<<<change 191
Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.).............:Disabled
System Memory Multiplier (SPD).............:6
SHOULD THIS BE 8?
Memory Frequency(MHz)......................:1066 1152
PCI Express Frequency(MHz).................Auto: <<<<change 100 this can be left to auto but some use the 100mhz as that's what auto will run @ I have mine set to 101mhz as its more stable on my o/c GPU

>>>>> Advanced Clock Control
CPU Clock Drive (mV).......................:800mV
PCI Express Clock Drive (mV)...............:900mV
CPU Clock Skew (ps)........................:0
IOH Clock Skew (ps)........................:0
> Advanced Memory Settings [Press Enter]
Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.).............:Disabled
System Memory Multiplier (SPD).............:6
SHOULD THIS BE 8?
Memory Frequency(MHz)......................:1066. 1152
Performance Enhance........................:Standard <<<< this is fine
SHOULD I HAVE THIS SET FOR TURBO OR EXTREME?!
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)...............:Quick <<<<this is fine
Should this be AUTO
Profile DDR Voltage........................:1.5V
Profile QPI Voltage........................:1.175V
Channel Interleaving.......................: 6 AUTO
Rank Interleaving..........................: 4 AUTO
>>>>> Channel A, B, & C
> Channel A, B, & C Timing Settings [Press Enter]
>>>>> Channel A, B, & C Standard Timing Control
Cas Latency Time...........................:7 AUTO
tRCD.......................................:7 AUTO
tRP........................................:7 AUTO
tRAS.......................................:20 AUTO
>>>>> Channel A, B, & C Advanced Timing Control
tRC........................................: 27 AUTO
tRRD ......................................:4 AUTO
tWTR ......................................:4 AUTO
tWR........................................:8 AUTO
tWTP.......................................:19 AUTO
tWL........................................:7 AUTO
tRFC.......................................:60 AUTO
tRTP.......................................:4 AUTO
tFAW.......................................:16 AUTO
Command Rate (CMD) ........................:1 AUTO
>>>>> Channel A, B, & C Misc Timing Control
B2B CAS Delay..............................: - AUTO
Round Trip Latency.........................:58 AUTO
> Channel A, B, & C Turnaround Setting [Press Enter]
>>>>> Channel A, B, & C Reads Followed By Reads
Different DIMMs............................:6 AUTO
Different Ranks............................:5 AUTO
On The Same Rank...........................:1 AUTO
>>>>> Channel A, B, & C Writes Followed By Writes
Different DIMMs............................:6 AUTO
Different Ranks............................:6 AUTO
On The Same Rank...........................:1 AUTO
> Advanced Voltage Settings [Press Enter]
>>> CPU
LoadLine Calibration.......................: AUTO <<<<change to Level 2
CPU Vcore..................................:1.31250V
xDynamic Vcore(DVID).......................: 0.0 AUTO
QPI/VTT Voltage............................:1.335V
CPU PLL....................................:1.8V
>>> MCH/ICH
PCIE.......................................:AUTO
QPI PLL....................................:1.200V
IOH Core...................................:AUTO
ICH I/O....................................:AUTO
ICH Core...................................:1.2V
>>> Dram
DRAM Voltage...............................:1.5V
DRAM Termination...........................:AUTO
Ch-A Data VRef.............................:AUTO
Ch-B Data VRef.............................:AUTO
Ch-C Data VRef.............................:AUTO
Ch-A Address VRef..........................:AUTO
Ch-B Address VRef..........................:AUTO
Ch-C Address VRef..........................:AUTO

> Miscellaneous Settings [Press Enter]
Isochronous Support........................: Enabled
Virtualization Technology..................: Enabled
Edited by kev8792 - 8/1/13 at 7:35am

 

[DPOverLord]

Booted up with the Xeon got to 4ghz with the same settings as my 930.

Then moved the multiplier to X23 and got to 4.5ghz.

The problem is bench wise I do not see a difference with this chip to the 930.

Any idea what settings I have that are wrong?

 

[theAnimal]

The problem is bench wise I do not see a difference with this chip to the 930.

Are you running multi-threaded benches? You won't see a difference in single-threaded.

 

[Burpo]

Click your start button, then type msconfig in the search bar and hit enter.
When that comes up click the "Boot" tab across the top, then click Advanced Options, then top left click "number of processors" down arrow and select number of cores you want Windows to work with. Just wanted to be sure it's hitting on all cores Reboot & run your benchmarks again..

 

[DPOverLord]

Click your start button, then type msconfig in the search bar and hit enter.
When that comes up click the "Boot" tab across the top, then click Advanced Options, then top left click "number of processors" down arrow and select number of cores you want Windows to work with. Just wanted to be sure it's hitting on all cores Reboot & run your benchmarks again..

Sorry for the dumb question:

# of Cores 6
# of Threads 12

do I set the advanced to 12 or 6 then?

 

[Burpo]

12 of course

 

[DPOverLord]

Also the Xeon seems to be fluctuating under load, does this make sense?
I tried it on a x23 multiplier and it went from 4.5 at idle to 2.4 under load.

Then on x21 it did the same thing.
I have
Intel Turbo Disabled (was enabled for x23)
CPu Cores enabled ALL
CPU Multi Threading ENABLED
C1E Disabled
C3/c6/c7 State Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor Enabled
CPU EIST Function DISABLEd
Bi Directional Prochot Disabled

 

[tweakboy]

Cant fully OC with Xeon. That is the whole point. Its not for enthusiast. gl

 

[Burpo]

Too much core voltage, and I'd get rid of that Easy Tune crap, and just clock it within bios. C states should be enabled as well as EIST.

 

[DPOverLord]

I need more Ram!!! I have 3x2GB and need more. If I go to 24 / 32 GB will it affect my O/C? I need more than 6 GB 100% I am just unwilling to spend $60 on 6GB on the 3 x 2 GB package going around of G Skill.

Question Do you guys recommend any better ram for this board? Should I go 3 more 3x2GB G Skills $60 and gets me 12GB or should I go for a total change and something like 3x8gb or 6x4gb? Ram is so expensive these days, would appreciate any recs.

In other news I changed around my settings

With a BCLK of 200 I get 1600MHZ memory.

A lot of the previous settings failed to boot. I just did a test with:
Multiplie X23
QPI = X36 ---> 3600 QPI link
Uncore of x16 --> 1600Mhz
BLCK 200
SPD - 8
Vcore = 1.55V
QPI/ VTT - 1.355V

CPU Speed = 4.6GHZ So far no throttling but the temp at idle is 40-50 and at full Prime95 load hits 90C. going to reboot and see if I can scale back the Vcore.
:thumbsups
Edit lowerd from 1.55 to 1.4 got BSOD 08 seems there is not enough Vcore in it. will scale back from a 4.6 overclock

Then changed from 1.4 to 1.5 and it ran the thief benchmark fine. Now time for Prime then scaling to tweak...

Ran Thief again and got an improvement finally (makes sense and no throttling fingers crossed that I am finally reaching something
See below:
I7-930 bench
Ultra Settings Barely playable but stressful

Xeon @ 4.5GHX has an AVG FPS

Thief Xeon 4.6GHZ
Min FPS 20.6
Max FPS 48.3
AVG FPS 30.8


thats a big difference than last xeon bench and a 5-10 fps increase over the 930. The 930 barely hit 40 this hit 46.5 with minimal tweaking so far

Passed Intel Burn Test:
Standard and High

Temps ran at 85-max 90C

In Game temps in Thief earlier were 60.

I really am fond of getting a 4.6GHZ Overclock, however, if intel burntest hovers at 85-90C Prime will too for 24 hrs and I dont want to run it that high.

At this point I am going to look at lowering the Vcore..

But year Muse I need Ram open to suggestions Just $120+ seems really high no?

 

[Burpo]

I doubt you need more than 6Gb of RAM. My quadcore has 6gb and even with over 100 processes running & 20 web pages open, while transcoding a video, it peaks at 5Gb used. If you want to add 6Gb more, that's more than enough, so $60 & be done with it. As far as V core, doesn't your board have a setting for offset voltage instead of fixed, or dynamic? Works best here when I offset +.3 volts to stock. Voltage is dynamic & when CPU needs it, it gets up to 1.46 volts, but when not under load uses less & creates less heat.

 

[DPOverLord]

I went to 12GB of Ram overclocked to 4.6GHZ fyi wanted to give an update temps in games range around 20-35c