Help needed with failed new Conroe build

ignatzatsonic

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I am having problems in the early stages of a new build and want to make sure I am not overlooking anything. No overclocking or gaming intended?I just want a fast, quiet, and stable machine for work purposes.

Components assembled so far:

Compucase LX-6A19 case (very similar to Antec 3700)
Asus P5B motherboard, retail
Intel E6600 processor, retail
Corsair Value Select DDR2 667 ram (2 gigs total, a matched pair of 1 gig sticks)
Seasonic S12 330 watt power supply
Scythe Mine cooler
Arctic Silver 5
Yate Loon 120 mm fans, front and rear
Sapphire X550 PCI Express video card, retail
Old Sony CD drive just to have something to load Memtest from CD.

I assembled the bare minimum needed to get into the bios?motherboard, power supply, CPU, cooler, video card, and both memory sticks. No HD, no OS, etc.

Booted successfully on the first attempt. Looked through the bios and see nice low temperatures, nominal voltage values and think everything is cool. I then ran Memtest86, which generated 23 errors in 5 passes, all in test 7. Pulled one stick out. Booted with remaining stick and passed test 7 at least 20 times without error. Pulled the good stick and replaced it with the bad stick. Would not boot, giving the classic 3 beeps repeatedly. Tried the bad stick in other memory slots and still could not boot with it alone.

Switched back to the good stick, intending to finish the build and to later RMA both sticks to Newegg.

Out of the blue, I get no video signal to my CRT monitor, as if the monitor cable were not connected to the video card at all. I shut down and connected the same monitor and cable to my old PC and it worked perfectly. I reseated the video card, which had no effect. Repeated attempts, reboots, and reconnecting the monitor cable have no effect. The monitor is clearly not defective as it works on the old PC.

All bios settings are stock default. No hard drive, no operating system, no software other than Memtest from the CD drive.

When both memory sticks were originally installed, I booted fine and both sticks were acknowledged as 2048 megs total memory, even though 1 stick was presumably dead or dying because the memtest errors came about an hour or two later. Would you expect the bios to acknowledge a bad memory stick when memory is counted?

I assume I have 1 bad memory stick and either the sudden death of a video card or the sudden death of a P5B PCI Express video card slot.

I have no other standby equipment that I can use to swap in and out to help decide if the disappearing video is a video card or motherboard problem. All I know for sure is that the monitor works perfectly well when connected to a second PC, which has a Matrox AGP card.

My current plan is to RMA both memory sticks and the video card, but realize the problem may be motherboard related.

What am I overlooking? I have built only a few machines and never encountered anything remotely like this. The video card has no more than 5 hours on it, mostly while running memtest. More likely a video card issue or a bad slot? Memory and video issues completely unrelated and just bad luck? I just need some fresh analysis in case I am leaving something out.
 

boomerang

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Reset the CMOS as a first step.

You are really, really light on the Power Supply. It may be your whole problem.
 

ignatzatsonic

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CMOS has been reset and I can boot and enter bios with the good stick of RAM. I have heard talk about a "black screen of death" with this motherboard in certain circumstances. Does anyone have details or recommended bios to get around it?

I am on bios 0211, from July 2006, what the motherboard shipped with.

All I have installed is the motherboard, memory, cpu and entry level video card. All the power requirement calculators I have checked indicate that my system, when fully configured with two hard drives, 2 DVD drives, and the entry level video card, would use 180-220 watts. I don't even have a hard drive in it now, so I doubt if I have power supply issues. No overclocking and no games to be done.

I am going to retest the bad stick of memory and RMA both sticks if it fails again.

My biggest concern now is whether or not video or mobo are bad. Video may be OK, now that CMOS has been cleared, but the lack of video came out of nowhere and I am wondering how to keep that from recurring?

Any ideas on most stable bios or possibility of bad mobo/videocard?

 

boomerang

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So if I understand your post correctly, you can now boot and have video? Correct?

Assuming so, update to the latest BIOS available at the Asus site, if there is a newer one. My understanding is that with the P965 chipset, that a lot of BIOS updates address memory compatibility issues. This may solve your memory errors.

Yes, your PS may provide enough total watts to run the system, but does it supply enough amps on the +12V rail to power your system reliably? I know the answer, you need to find out for yourself.

Edit: See Page 39 of your manual for minimum power requirements specified for your P5B.
 

ignatzatsonic

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Yes, I can boot now, but unexplained is why the video disappeared yesterday.

I just tested the "bad" stick of memory with memtest. It passed test 7 10 times without error and the entire suite of tests once. Yesterday, I got 23 errors in test 7.

As far as I know, the answer to your quiz is 22 amps.

I am aware of the information on page 39 of the manual.

There have been a lot of BIOS releases for this motherboard. The last two I am aware of are 0701 and 0806. Both released in the last few weeks.

I am not going to rely on memory that failed Memtest, even intermittenly. So that will be RMAed for sure.

 

n7

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Have you set the vdimm to match your RAM's rated voltage?

If so, i'd try one voltage step above that.

But you really need to update your bios.

You are likely asking for issues until you do, & that includes memory errors.

I'd update the bios using a floppy/USB key ASAP.

Flash the bios with the "good RAM" (even though i bet both are actually fine; i suspect it's either too low vdimm or bios incompatibility issues).

And then go from there.
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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Random errors are usually attributed to the PSU. You are likely pushing the limit of the PSU, and that is never a good thing. I got tired of having random issues and hard drives drop out in my last machine, which is why I went with dual PSUs in my config. Not saying you need dual PSUs, but consider upping the PSU. My $.02...