help needed please with choice of TP-link C7 vs Nighthawk

amermirg

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Hello I will get a new isp that supplies 100/10mbits ...fiber to the block of flats basement , then copper from basement to the flats.

We have 2 laptop neither of which support the 5ghz band (MSI ge60 ond)
3 desktops , 2 which are used to play online games...and one that is used to play internet tv.
3 phones , 2 of which i think support the 5 ghz .

I have bought a TP-Link Archer C7 version 1.1 (v2 was updated ) for the equivalent of $76 US (599 swedish kronor)
This has not been used and I can return it..
On offer just now is the NETGEAR Nighthawk AC1900 Dual Band Wireless Gigabit Router (R7000) for $126 US (990 sek)
Is the difference worth it or am I already over the top with the C7..ie future proofing with the Nighthawk.

We've had cable(coaxial) up to now and a Netgear cg3100 cable modem

Any help MUCH appreciated because I read things, look at graphs and ....they mean SWAT-ALL to me :-(
thanks
 
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pauldun170

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Hello I will get a new isp that supplies 100/10mbits ...fiber to the block of flats basement , then copper from basement to the flats.

We have 2 laptop neither of which support the 5ghz band (MSI ge60 ond)
3 desktops , 2 which are used to play online games...and one that is used to play internet tv.
3 phones , 2 of which i think support the 5 ghz .

I have bought a TP-Link Archer C7 version 1.1 (v2 was updated ) for the equivalent of $76 US (599 swedish kronor)
This has not been used and I can return it..
On offer just now is the NETGEAR Nighthawk AC1900 Dual Band Wireless Gigabit Router (R7000) for $126 US (990 sek)
Is the difference worth it or am I already over the top with the C7..ie future proofing with the Nighthawk.

We've had cable(coaxial) up to now and a Netgear cg3100 cable modem

Any help MUCH appreciated because I read things, look at graphs and ....they mean SWAT-ALL to me :-(
thanks

Lot of reports of frequent restarts with R7000, at least with the latest batch of firmware releases. Appears to be very hit or miss with the R7000 when it comes to stability nowadays.
Recently did a lot of reading in various forums with the intent of buying the R7000 and walked away from it (Went with the rt-ac68 instead). However, at $126US I'd chance it.
Just make sure at the first sign of issues to get netgear on the line for their warranty process.
 

amermirg

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Thanks pauldun170 for the quick reply..
So even with possible problems the Nighthawk AC1900 Dual Band Wireless Gigabit Router (R7000) is still better than the TP-Link Archer C7 version 1.1. Difference $50 US
I beleive the C7 is slightly weaker in the 2.4ghz range BUT I assume both will be similar hard-wired to PC's?
thanks
 

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Hello I will get a new isp that supplies 100/10mbits ...fiber to the block of flats basement , then copper from basement to the flats.

We have 2 laptop neither of which support the 5ghz band (MSI ge60 ond)
3 desktops , 2 which are used to play online games...and one that is used to play internet tv.
3 phones , 2 of which i think support the 5 ghz .

I have bought a TP-Link Archer C7 version 1.1 (v2 was updated ) for the equivalent of $76 US (599 swedish kronor)
This has not been used and I can return it..
On offer just now is the NETGEAR Nighthawk AC1900 Dual Band Wireless Gigabit Router (R7000) for $126 US (990 sek)
Is the difference worth it or am I already over the top with the C7..ie future proofing with the Nighthawk.

We've had cable(coaxial) up to now and a Netgear cg3100 cable modem

Any help MUCH appreciated because I read things, look at graphs and ....they mean SWAT-ALL to me :-(
thanks


I've been using the Archer C7 for a little less than 2 years now and I think it is probably the best value in a router out there right now. That being said, if I needed a router and could get my hands on an R7000 for $126 I would do that in a heartbeat.

The Asus and the R7000 are pretty much the gold standards in AC1900 routers right now. I just picked up the Personal Cell Spot from T-Mobile and flashed it to the stock Asus RT-AC68U that it really is and measured the range between it and my C7. The 2.4GHz range (as measured by dBi) was virtually identical with my tablet, laptop and smartphone. There was about 2-3 dBi difference in the 5GHz band where the Asus was a little better.

Where the Asus and the R7000 will shine is with the dual core processors that they have. They will handle heavy routing and torrent traffic better than the single core C7. But it would take some fairly heavy pounding to see a real world difference.

Also, because they are based on Broadcom chips, the Asus and NetGear can be flashed to alternative firmware like Tomato and DD-WRT and the Atheros based C7 can't.
 
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amermirg

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Thanks smitbret...Have you version 1 of the C7? (understand there are 3 versions now obviously v1 v2 v3)
Just to confirm the performance of the Asus RT-AC68U is similar to your C7?

So although the Nighthawk is reduced by $57 US (499 sek) and IS the better router(and I take note what pauldun170 said about lots of restarts)
the fact that we play online with cat6 cable wire and use wireless mainly for phones) the C7 (even v1.1 ) may well be more than I need?

(Just been reading on Netgear forums about the Nighthawk and wish I understood this port stuff etc etc :)
 

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I've been using R7000 since they were available for purchase on Newegg. Literally zero issues, great wifi strength and speed. I have the second to last firmware update though...

I also purchased a C7 (V2) for my mother. Got it set up, as easy as anything. Wireless strength and speed are decent, but I only played around with it for a few hours.
 

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With all due respect to the OP. May be some one want to enlight me.

Many advise seekers that come here list (and rightfully so) the hardware that suppose to be served By Wireless Router.

The list of Client hardware of most posters indicate Hardware that is Valued 10 times (and in many times more) than the average End User Router.

Wireless Router has the same span of life (or may be longer) as the Laptop, Phones, Desktop etc.

That said it seems that the "Drama" of sending (give and take) additional $30-$50 takes priority over common sense.

As far as I am concerned if One does not Multiple AC Wireless devices and does not have heavy Demanding LAN get this.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...=n66u%20router

Otherwise, http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...=n66u%20router

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My personal experience shows that the None AC Asus n66u does better than most inexpensive AC Wireless.

The inexpensive AC is a good choice when the Network is a one (or two) room small apartment with 2-3 devices and No heavy load.

Unfortunately, most time "Nice Forum's" helpers do not disclose all the relevant info about their Wireless network and thus their advice might be questionable.


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Thanks JackMDS...so you are saying go for a N router. I have to admit it must be hard to advise someone like me with no real knowledge and of course I need to buy what is the best value for me and my family...It's my lack of know-how(didn't relised things had gone to dual band for example) that makes it a hard choice...

Yes modem do tend to last long and because of that and underatnding that I'll have to build new PC's when the present ones get old, and that mobiles get renewed with new contracts, makes me uncertain as to what is a good buy for today AND hopefully tommorrow .I guess more things will be wireless

As I stated my lack of basic understanding leaves me assuming that if it costs more , it must be better and therefore I MUST be making the right choice for the family.

I really do appreciate the time people give.
 

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I've been using the Archer C7 for a little less than 2 years now and I think it is probably the best value in a router out there right now. That being said, if I needed a router and could get my hands on an R7000 for $126 I would do that in a heartbeat.

The Asus and the R7000 are pretty much the gold standards in AC1900 routers right now. I just picked up the Personal Cell Spot from T-Mobile and flashed it to the stock Asus RT-AC68U that it really is and measured the range between it and my C7. The 2.4GHz range (as measured by dBi) was virtually identical with my tablet, laptop and smartphone. There was about 2-3 dBi difference in the 5GHz band where the Asus was a little better.

Where the Asus and the R7000 will shine is with the dual core processors that they have. They will handle heavy routing and torrent traffic better than the single core C7. But it would take some fairly heavy pounding to see a real world difference.

Also, because they are based on Broadcom chips, the Asus and NetGear can be flashed to alternative firmware like Tomato and DD-WRT and the Atheros based C7 can't.

As a nit, the measurement is in dBm, not dBi. dBi is a measurement of antenna gain (or loss) referenced to a perfect isotropic antenna (hence the lower case i). Signal strength is dBm, decibles referenced to one milliwatt received power (0dBm = 1mw, and hence the lower case m, milliwatt).

If you are talking about a difference in signal strengths, it is simply dB, or decibles. So if you had a signal strength measurement, it would be, for example, -52dBm. If you were talking about an antenna, it would be a 5dBi antenna. If you were talking about the difference between a -52dBm signal strength and a -68dBm signal strength, you'd say there was a 16dB difference (you wouldn't say 16dBm).

Just nits.

Also, no offense JackMDS, but that goes counter to my experience and most actual testing. Now a really bad 11ac router, might be true. The n66 is probably THE best 11n router currently on the market, its performance however is not up to the level of most AC1750 and AC1900 routers, including with 11n clients. Just check out Smallnetbuilders test of 11ac routers with 11n clients. The proprietar of the site ended up doing the tests after a number of SMB forum members kept telling him that 11n clients do significantly better with 11ac routers (I was one of them).

Turns out, it is true. 11n clients do SIGNIFICANTLY better with 11ac routers, especially at medium to long range.

As an example, my WDR3600, which is basically the #1 N600 router in terms of wireless performance, and about #3 or 4 overall behind the N66u and WDR4300 (because obviously, some N750/900 routers are going to be better), manages ~25MB/sec on 2.4 and 5GHz 40MHz with my laptop with the wireless card set to 11n only operation. At one medium location it is 18MB/sec on 2.4GHz and 11MB/sec on 5Ghz. At a far location it is 2.5MB/sec on 2.4GHz and nothing on 5GHz. Switching over to an Archer C8, at best a mid level AC1750 router, I get 28.5MB/sec on 2.4 and 5Ghz short range, 24MB/sec 2.4GHz and 19MB/sec 5GHz at the medium spot and 3.8MB/sec on 2.4GHz at the far location (still nothing on 5GHz). Not the same high level of performance, but roughly similar difference in performance between the two routers when testing with my tablet which is 11n only adapter in it (Asus T100) and my iPhone 5.

Swapping over the anntenas from the WDR3600 improves things a bit more at the medium and long distance locations (C8 comes with 3dBi and the WDR3600 has 5dBi).

Is that a world of difference? Depends on your use case, that is more than a 50% increase in performance at long range and it is highly repeatable (as are all of the numbers). Even at short range it is a nice little boost.

Now there might be many people who don't care about a 15-50% gain in performance, but there are a lot of others who do.

That also ignores other bits that are nice, like if you care about storage performance the Archer C8 has roughly double the storage performance of the WDR3600 or N66u (and a number of AC1750 and AC1900 routers have a lot better storage performance than that, with 3-8x the storage performance of the N66u).

Considering the cost of the N66u, it just does NOT make sense compared to some "entry level" AC1750 routers, at least some of the GOOD ones. Like the Archer C7 cost quite a bit LESS than the N66u... (I said C7, not C8. I like the C8 a little more, but considering that the C7 can be found for $80 and the C8 is $120 at the cheapest, the slight differences between the two is not worth the cost difference).

It just doesn't make sense to recommend an overall inferior router that costs more (I can make a sole exception if you need one of the features that the N66u has built in, like I believe it has a VPN server and download server built in, which not a lot of routers have as features at all, though the former is not going to provide very fast performance on the limited hardware).

I would stick with the Acher C7. Update to the latest firmware and be happy.
 

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As a nit, the measurement is in dBm, not dBi. dBi is a measurement of antenna gain (or loss) referenced to a perfect isotropic antenna (hence the lower case i). Signal strength is dBm, decibles referenced to one milliwatt received power (0dBm = 1mw, and hence the lower case m, milliwatt).

If you are talking about a difference in signal strengths, it is simply dB, or decibles. So if you had a signal strength measurement, it would be, for example, -52dBm. If you were talking about an antenna, it would be a 5dBi antenna. If you were talking about the difference between a -52dBm signal strength and a -68dBm signal strength, you'd say there was a 16dB difference (you wouldn't say 16dBm).

Just nits.

Also, no offense JackMDS, but that goes counter to my experience and most actual testing. Now a really bad 11ac router, might be true. The n66 is probably THE best 11n router currently on the market, its performance however is not up to the level of most AC1750 and AC1900 routers, including with 11n clients. Just check out Smallnetbuilders test of 11ac routers with 11n clients. The proprietar of the site ended up doing the tests after a number of SMB forum members kept telling him that 11n clients do significantly better with 11ac routers (I was one of them).

Turns out, it is true. 11n clients do SIGNIFICANTLY better with 11ac routers, especially at medium to long range.

As an example, my WDR3600, which is basically the #1 N600 router in terms of wireless performance, and about #3 or 4 overall behind the N66u and WDR4300 (because obviously, some N750/900 routers are going to be better), manages ~25MB/sec on 2.4 and 5GHz 40MHz with my laptop with the wireless card set to 11n only operation. At one medium location it is 18MB/sec on 2.4GHz and 11MB/sec on 5Ghz. At a far location it is 2.5MB/sec on 2.4GHz and nothing on 5GHz. Switching over to an Archer C8, at best a mid level AC1750 router, I get 28.5MB/sec on 2.4 and 5Ghz short range, 24MB/sec 2.4GHz and 19MB/sec 5GHz at the medium spot and 3.8MB/sec on 2.4GHz at the far location (still nothing on 5GHz). Not the same high level of performance, but roughly similar difference in performance between the two routers when testing with my tablet which is 11n only adapter in it (Asus T100) and my iPhone 5.

Swapping over the anntenas from the WDR3600 improves things a bit more at the medium and long distance locations (C8 comes with 3dBi and the WDR3600 has 5dBi).

Is that a world of difference? Depends on your use case, that is more than a 50% increase in performance at long range and it is highly repeatable (as are all of the numbers). Even at short range it is a nice little boost.

Now there might be many people who don't care about a 15-50% gain in performance, but there are a lot of others who do.

That also ignores other bits that are nice, like if you care about storage performance the Archer C8 has roughly double the storage performance of the WDR3600 or N66u (and a number of AC1750 and AC1900 routers have a lot better storage performance than that, with 3-8x the storage performance of the N66u).

Considering the cost of the N66u, it just does NOT make sense compared to some "entry level" AC1750 routers, at least some of the GOOD ones. Like the Archer C7 cost quite a bit LESS than the N66u... (I said C7, not C8. I like the C8 a little more, but considering that the C7 can be found for $80 and the C8 is $120 at the cheapest, the slight differences between the two is not worth the cost difference).

It just doesn't make sense to recommend an overall inferior router that costs more (I can make a sole exception if you need one of the features that the N66u has built in, like I believe it has a VPN server and download server built in, which not a lot of routers have as features at all, though the former is not going to provide very fast performance on the limited hardware).

I would stick with the Acher C7. Update to the latest firmware and be happy.

Yeah, I have been researching antennae for an outdoor project and I think I have dBi gain on the brain. Although, in the spirit of honesty, I have never noticed the term "dBm" before. Thanks for the the education.

I usually defer to JackMDS for most things networking, but I have to go with Azazel on this one. Wireless N clients do seem to benefit from being connected to an AC router. The two routers that were mentioned, WDR3600 and the C7, are the best buys in routers right now. The Asus is nice and its ability to be flashed to Alt firmware is an advantage but unless there are specific features that the original firmware lacks, then it's just extraneous.

Incidentally, my C7 is a v1 running the latest firmware. There were issues, for about 18 months, where Apple devices were having connection issues with the 5GHz band of the C7 but those problems seem to have finally been rectified since the firmware update in July. To be fair, the only iOS device that ever tried to connect to my router was my daughter's iPod but it never had a problem.
 

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Also, no offense JackMDS, but that goes counter to my experience and most actual testing. Now a really bad 11ac router, might be true. The n66 is probably THE best 11n router currently on the market, its performance however is not up to the level of most AC1750 and AC1900 routers, including with 11n clients. Just check out Smallnetbuilders test of 11ac routers with 11n clients. The proprietar of the site ended up doing the tests after a number of SMB forum members kept telling him that 11n clients do significantly better with 11ac routers (I was one of them).

Turns out, it is true. 11n clients do SIGNIFICANTLY better with 11ac routers, especially at medium to long range.

While the above QFT there is a Different between it and reality.

From my extensive personal experience I always take with a Grain of Salt "Smallnetbuilders". I do not doubt their numbers but the Translation of their Benchmarks many time does no translate to Tangible Reality.

From my personal experience I can Not see on End Users Networks the advantages of AC Routers over the Dual Band Top Wireless Routers beyond some minor improvement in Wireless when a Good AC Wireless client is used. I am talking about real performance as oppose to measures that are Not real active measures but are generated by drivers tables)

I might also add that real Wireless performance is pending on SNR (Signal to Noise ratio) and not just Signal strength None Of the Wireless in our Entry Level system really measures the noise.

There is No question that a Ferrari can do in any respect better/more than Fiat 500, but if you live in Midtown Manhattan and you Drive to work to Brooklyn on Rush hour the functional difference between the cars amounts to close to nothing (beside the prestige that One is seen in a Ferrari).

In the last few years there is Many Posts here that Translate into I want a Ferrari but I can/want to pay for Fiat 500. The world does not work this way. I try to adpat to something functional in the Middle that night provide the desired functional solution.


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azazel1024

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While the above QFT there is a Different between it and reality.

From my extensive personal experience I always take with a Grain of Salt "Smallnetbuilders". I do not doubt their numbers but the Translation of their Benchmarks many time does no translate to Tangible Reality.

From my personal experience I can Not see on End Users Networks the advantages of AC Routers over the Dual Band Top Wireless Routers beyond some minor improvement in Wireless when a Good AC Wireless client is used. I am talking about real performance as oppose to measures that are Not real active measures but are generated by drivers tables)

I might also add that real Wireless performance is pending on SNR (Signal to Noise ratio) and not just Signal strength None Of the Wireless in our Entry Level system really measures the noise.

There is No question that a Ferrari can do in any respect better/more than Fiat 500, but if you live in Midtown Manhattan and you Drive to work to Brooklyn on Rush hour the functional difference between the cars amounts to close to nothing (beside the prestige that One is seen in a Ferrari).

In the last few years there is Many Posts here that Translate into I want a Ferrari but I can/want to pay for Fiat 500. The world does not work this way. I try to adpat to something functional in the Middle that night provide the desired functional solution.


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My point though is, the N66u is a very nice 11n router, but in most testing I have seen and in real world use, it is NOT as fast with 11n clients as most 11ac routers are. Not simply a few benchmarks and an EMI chamber, but actual real use. I've compared a WDR3600 directly to an N66u, which is why I have WDR3600's (two, one for router and one for AP, though the router got retired when I got the Archer C8, it'll be repurposed for the garage/outdoor AP to replace an 841nd this coming spring). The performance difference with 2:2 clients was marginal between the two routers (I think the N66u averaged about 5% faster when I averaged my 6 test locations), the power consumption on the N66u was a lot higher and the handful of features it had that the WDR3600 didn't have, aren't something I care about in a router, it and cost roughly 3x the price at the time, so the N66u went back to the store. Now if I had 3 stream clients, the story would undoubtedly be different.

I've done massive testing with my Archer C8 (probably 50+ hrs of testing different channels, channel widths, locations, clients and configuration settings, plus antenna configurations and different antennas) to compare about my WDR3600 (and I have my numbers of the N66u also) and also with clients in 11n and 11ac mode and with pure native 11n clients. The performance differences are tangible, real and noticeable. Granted I don't have performance numbers on 11ac clients in 11n mode with the N66u as I didn't have any 11ac clients at the time, but I think my tests still stand.

11n clients, at least with an Archer C8, perform MUCH better than with even really, really good 11n routers/APs. It is not a placebo effect or something minor. Considering how many others have chimed in that they have experienced similar things, and "testing" by SNB has also backed up this vast treasure trove of "anecdotal" evidence, I think it is pretty safe to say.

Now, I'll grant you there are some real shite 11ac routers out there, but we (or at least I) am not discussing that. The Archer C7 is a cheap, but very good AC1750 router. The R7000 is a cheap, for AC1900, router that is extremely good.

Considering the relative prices, it doesn't make sense to get something (N66u) that will perform worse than either router and costs the same or more.

If it was CHEAPER, there would be a strong argument. Heck, unless you have 11ac clients or need to squeeze the last bit of performance out of your network, I'd suggest the WDR3600 over the Archer C7, N66u or R7000 or just about any other router. For $50, it is darned cheap, can be found open box/used for $30-35 and it performs GREAT for an 11n router. It can take OpenWRT if you ever have the itch.

That said, for $30 more, which is a pitance compared to what most have spent on their client devices, you can get a lot better performance and 11ac ability out of an Archer C7, or $30-80 more on something like a C8, or R7000 or AC66/68u.

That said, since most people are rocking an internet connect that is probably all of 50Mbps or less, and likely don't have much or any NAS that they need to worry about transfering files within their WLAN, or rarely do, $50 on a solid, long ranged and decently performing WDR3600 is probably the way to go (on the far side of my house, through 4 walls and 40ft I can get a solid connection and transfer files at >50Mbps on the WDR3600 and my laptop. >30Mbps on my tablet. Granted, if it were my Archer C8, that would be around >70Mbps on my laptop (in 11n mode) and >40Mbps on my tablet)

Again, we are talking roughly a 20-50% increase in performance with 11n ONLY clients, like my tablet which has a shite dual band 150Mbps adapter in it that caps at around 90Mbps max (SDIO, so 100Mbps limitation, plus I assume some overhead). At medium and longer ranges, the performace connected to my 11ac router is noticably better than with my very, very good 11n router (oh, if curious, I have tested BOTH WDR3600s, just to see if one happened to be a dud at longer range, they performed within 5% of each other in the half dozen locations and a couple of settings changes I tried before I called it a day and said they performed identical). Same goes with my iPhone 5, my wifes iPad 2, her old iPhone 4s, my kids Asus Memo Pad HD7s. Every single "legacy" 802.11n equipped client I have tested has, at least at medium to long range, shown a 20-50+% improvement in performance (some show no gain at short distance, but they were/are generally limited by other things, like internal bus speed to the wifi adapter, in those cases).

I can't really test in a very high interference situation, but artificially creating one by turning my microwave on shows a pretty similar 20% hit to 2.4GHz operation for both the C8 and the WDR3600 if clients are within 10ft of the microwave, which leaves the C8 still performing a lot better than the WDR3600 at the same locations. Testing with MULTIPLE clients simultaneously shows a BIGGER improvement. When streaming video to 2 wifi clients and then initiating two file transfers to two different 11n clients shows a 30-80% increase in multiple client performance instead of a 20-50% increase in performance at medium and long distances...

So I am failing to see how 11ac routers are not in every way superior. The only instance of "driving a ferrari in city traffic" I can see is if your only use case is to connect your wireless clients to the internet and you have a relatively limited WAN connection speed, which granted IS a lot of people (again, back to me recommending the WDR3600 in the case, because cheap, good and few people have 3:3 clients and if they did, their internet connection would again probably be a limitation).

A year ago when all AC1750 routers/APs were really expensive, it made sense to save $50-100 and go with something like the N66u instead, but now that there are a number of 11ac routers that are CHEAPER and they'll provide better 11n performance than the best 11n router, there isn't really a case where I could ever see recommending the N66u over a halfway decent AC1750/AC1900 router. Recommending a cheaper 11n router, sure, but not the N66u.
 
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God you guys know stuff...I can follow some of it. thanks and it sounds like you are having a really good, healthy debate..

thanks again...by the way i oredred the NETGEAR Nighthawk AC1900 Dual Band on a COLLECT@Store basis but the shop sold it anyway...happened to a few people . The shop selling them are , although big here, charletions and lack any customer service so i wasn't overly surprised...still got the C7 v1.1 which i'll need to connect to new BB Isp on the 1st

thanks and i look forward to your future debate !
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!:):):):thumbsup:

oh and thanks smitbret for confirming your version number
 

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Just on more thing pleas on the Tp-link C7...I understand it's important to change login password BUT should I also change the wireless passwords for 2.4 & 5 GHz?
I have disabled ssid broadcast..
thanks
 

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Just on more thing pleas on the Tp-link C7...I understand it's important to change login password BUT should I also change the wireless passwords for 2.4 & 5 GHz?
I have disabled ssid broadcast..
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I do, but I just do it so that I can remember it. The preprogrammed one is unique so it shouldn't matter if you don't.

BTW, flash to the latest firmware ASAP and do it before you make any more changes. The updates they made with the July upgrade won't let you carry over any customizations or changes.
 

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Yes thanks smitbret ...first thing I did was the firmware...had a bit of difficulty with the older laptop but all seems fine...Will see how it goes over the next few days...Trying to find a good guide to router settings just now..

thanks all for the help!!
 

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What's the email setting for in a router? is it to control the access for others on the LAN?
Anyone know a good tutorial on router settings?
Thanks
 

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What's the email setting for in a router? is it to control the access for others on the LAN?
Anyone know a good tutorial on router settings?
Thanks

I don't know that I have ever noticed one. Are you talking about the e-mail notification for events?
 

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Sorry I ended up changing the C7 v1.1 for the NETGEAR Nighthawk AC1900 Wireless (R7000) ...it had 33% off and I couldn't understand (simply lack of my knowledge) why TP-link had thought it necessary to change the specs on the C7 v2---the short time I had the C7 it gave me no problems. I feel that when companies change hardware they should be made to rename them OR clearly state the version number which must be shown on the box and by internet shops. ( I bought a XFX 7870 GPU many months ago but the one I got looked different and was different to the original one that was tested by all the online critics,,,indeed voltage was locked on mine and it had fewer cooling pipes.)

Anyway Smitbret the router page states:
Turn E-mail Notification On

thanks for the help---appreciated
 

smitbret

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Sorry I ended up changing the C7 v1.1 for the NETGEAR Nighthawk AC1900 Wireless (R7000) ...it had 33% off and I couldn't understand (simply lack of my knowledge) why TP-link had thought it necessary to change the specs on the C7 v2---the short time I had the C7 it gave me no problems. I feel that when companies change hardware they should be made to rename them OR clearly state the version number which must be shown on the box and by internet shops. ( I bought a XFX 7870 GPU many months ago but the one I got looked different and was different to the original one that was tested by all the online critics,,,indeed voltage was locked on mine and it had fewer cooling pipes.)

Anyway Smitbret the router page states:
Turn E-mail Notification On

thanks for the help---appreciated

It's cool. If I had the need for a new router I would probably lean to the Nighthawk, too, for $126. Should last you a good, long time.... until the next "Big Thing" comes out, anyway.
 

fuzzymath10

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My DIR-615 with dd-wrt died over the christmas. I think it's just the AC adapter so I'll try it out later, but I just bought a new broadwell tablet and lots of my mobile gear supports dual band anyway so I bought the C7 v2 for $80 (Canadian).

I am so far reasonably impressed. I've hit as high as 250mbps on older N hardware (Intel 5300) and the broadwell tablet. With some tweaking I hope to hit higher with wireless ac but for now it beats what I had before.

The AC adapter on this new router is much larger but power consumption seems low enough; my kill a watt gives me 12W at the wall for my cable modem + router.