Help! Need 1080P 48"+ But I HATE LCD and DLP

[Slacker]

My JVC iART PRO is dying : ( , the convergence is fubar and wont adjust up/down, the picture looks like you should be wearing 3d glasses to see it properly

It looks like convergence IC's are bad and not a DIY job to fix

I have been looking for a replacement but all I see in CC/BB are some form of LCD which I hate, I cant look at one without seeing Blocks all the time, in every scene transition I see a mosaic image and it pisses me off :| because the picture is incredible otherwise, I just cannot get past the blockiness I see.

I thought I found a good crt rptv from sony, KDS50A3000 but it is disco...


Budget is $1500.00 or less, is there any hope?

 

[krotchy]

You do realize the mosaic you see on scene transitions is due to bad compression of the source and not the TV itself right? Some TV's with good processing can clean this up, but if you buy a cheap TV it will be more noticeable *cough* Vizio, Westinghouse *cough*. Basically analog TV had a fixed bandwidth to transmit every pixel. digital on the other hand attempts to reduce this bandwidth by compressing the signal. When things get too complex to compress, they get blocky.

Also the A3000 is not a CRT RPTV, it is a Liquid Crystal on Silicon TV, aka a projection TV where the bulb is shined through a chip with a small LCD on board. In your price range though it is probably the best bet, still it is not immune to poor compression, and sporting events and things with high frequency images (think tree branches) or high motion will go blocky like crazy.

 

[Slick5150]

Yeah, the pixelation has nothing to do with the TV (well, little), but with whatever source is feeding it a crappy compressed signal.

 

[sivart]

heck, even NBC Football via OTA can get 'blocky' on the most expensive of displays.

The Vizio 50" plasma (non-LCD, non-RPTV) is about the only one I know in your budget and 1080p.
http://www.vizio.com/products/detail.aspx?pid=63

I have a lowly 2 year old 42" 720p Vizio Plasma and I love it (then again I have a 100" Front projection for my serious sports / movie watching)

 

[erwos]

Keeping hunting for an A3000. There are still some floating around in Sears stores. Also, it's an SXRD, not a CRT RPTV.

 

[Slacker]

Im not sure if we are talking about the same thing, I have seen this on every LCD TV I have ever looked at, but never on an LCD computer monitor.

The blockiness isnt covering the whole screen, it is around the edges of say, a womans face turning away from the camera as a different scene or image transitions onto the screen.

or on the edges of a persons arm as it moves across the screen, on the edges of a logo or something as it is flashed on the screen and again as it fades out.

it is always very brief, a second or less but I see it and it bugs me.

if these things are the result of signal quality then I still would wonder why I would want an LCD over a standard rptv that never has this image issue.

 

[krotchy]

Originally posted by: Slacker
Im not sure if we are talking about the same thing, I have seen this on every LCD TV I have ever looked at, but never on an LCD computer monitor.

The blockiness isnt covering the whole screen, it is around the edges of say, a womans face turning away from the camera as a different scene or image transitions onto the screen.

or on the edges of a persons arm as it moves across the screen, on the edges of a logo or something as it is flashed on the screen and again as it fades out.

it is always very brief, a second or less but I see it and it bugs me.

if these things are the result of signal quality then I still would wonder why I would want an LCD over a standard rptv that never has this image issue.

No, we are still talking about the source, but there are 2 different reasons why you arent perceiving it I would guess.

1. What video are you watching on an LCD computer monitor? The reason you don't see blocking on a computer in say a game is there is no compression involved. Typically the only video you watch on a computer is either DVD quality or youtube/internet junk. DVD's tend to have very little blocking these days as they have plenty of bandwidth for 480p because of good compression hardware available now (Old DVD's were bad about this... yes even on CRT's a bad old DVD would block up). If it is youtube, that thing blocks to all hell, but the quality is so bad that it is always blocking and blurring and you never get that period of relief to compare it to.

2. On a standard RPTV (CRT), you were always watching an analog signal and there are very few CRT's with a digital tuner in them. LCD's on the other hand tend to have digital tuners, and they prefer to attach a digital feed to them to get HD, so you noticed the digital compression, just because they tend to use digital when they can.

Starting soon all over the air signals will become digital, and when you attach that shiny new digital TV converter box to your trusty old CRT, you will see the blocking in a heart beat, even on a CRT.


That being said if motion blur is your biggest gripe, Plasma is the route to go for you. All the major TV technologies have some downside, and plasma isn't immune, but based on your priorities id say it is what you want.

 

[Slacker]

Thanks for your input krotchy,

I think I need to spend some quality time with at least a plasma, and maybe a couple types of LCD to see it in my environment and with my type of viewing habits, I am going to see how much it costs to rent a plasma versus cost to return one.