HELP! Mobo swap gone wrong! AN35N

[serval]

I have installed a Shuttle AN35N-Ultra but upon powerup I get a series of beeps.
BEEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEEEP and on and on until I hold down the power button and it powers down.

The numlock light can be turned on or off even with the power to the computer OFF! So can the scroll lock button (this is a PS2 keyboard) What is that about!!! Why do I have power to the keyboard all the time? There is also a light near the CPU and DIMM 1 area that is always on.

Please, any help?
Smithers

 

[Conor026]

Are you getting any picture on the screen,when you start the PC.

 

[serval]

I get nothing on screen. At first it was just the monitor power LED blinking orange (as when the computer power is off normally) but now it is flashing every few seconds "Viewmonitor -- no preset 0.00 0.00" as when the video card is disconnected.

I was able to get the light to go off on the mother board but still I get nowhere even with clearing CMOS (and cycling power and removing power cord).

I think that the series of beeps (beeeeep . . . . . . beeeeeep . . . . . [and so on forever]) is used by award bios to mean bad memory, but this is Crucial ECC PC3200 that was working on my prior mother board (biostar M7BIT) just fine.

Any other ideas or questions?

Serval

 

[Conor026]

It sounds like a hard disk or VGA problem,like the thing isn`t setup-up properly e.g. jumper`s,cable in correctly.
Try going around the whole system and give everything a proper push into place.
that all i can say without more info

 

[serval]

I did check most connections to be sure. I will check again.

Same error with the hard drives and floppy unplugged!

Why do you think that it could be a VGA problem? Using a Radeon 8500le card, no problems before.

Anyone else with some ideas?

 

[Conor026]

I said a VGA problem because if the video card isnt in right you`ll get a series of beeps and no picture.

If you checked the connections and everything is grand,its obivously a hardware problem.
The only way to be sure which component is faulty is try something else e.g. get a friend`s p.c.,
try his Ram,Video Card,Hard disk,Processor,PCI cards in yours.
If it works,start taking his stuff out one by one and put yours in,restarting each time.
Until the problem happens again,then you know that component is faulty

If that don`t work put your Ram,Video Card,Hard disk,Processor,PCI cards into his motherboard.
If that works,your motherboard is faulty.

And if that don`t work throw it all into the bin the start over (only kidding)

Although there is the sledgehammer option...........

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: serval
this is Crucial ECC PC3200

Use non-ECC memory

 

[serval]

I'll see if anyone is awake who has any DDR ram for me to borrow.

Thanks, I'll post soon.

 

[Conor026]

What the diffenence between ECC and non-ECC Ram

 

[Conor026]

Ha,Ha. It 11 o`clock over here

 

[serval]

Originally posted by: Conor026
What the diffenence between ECC and non-ECC Ram

ECC basically cost a little more and has the capability to limiter some read and write errors. It's usually used in servers as a means to increase stability.

As for my problem, I still can't get any video or get the bios or even get it to post. The cables are all in (for sure) and te RAM is seated perfectly. I'll try out some non-ecc tomorrow, but if anyone can identify this problem, well, they would be very nice people for certain

Getting desperate, any help?

 

[serval]

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bump for help!

 

[Steven the Leech]

Pull the motherboard, hook up only the essentials video card/monitor/ram/Harddrive/atx power and power switch and see if it will post. Check all connections first. Then try diff parts till you find your culprit.


BTW Clear CMOS too.

 

[serval]

Cleared CMOS, checked connections, etc. Currently looking for a friend with DDR memory to borrow as that is my main suspect (or the mobo itself).

thanks . . . any more suggestions to get my system up?

 

[JamminJimmy]

The beeps are codes. For example, Two beeps followed by a pause and then one beep = 21. You then look up 21 at your BIOS's website.

 

[serval]

Originally posted by: JamminJimmy
The beeps are codes. For example, Two beeps followed by a pause and then one beep = 21. You then look up 21 at your BIOS's website.

Thanks Jimmy, I believe that this is the code for "bad memory" but this memory was working in my last motherboard very well (Crucial PC3200 ECC 512mb). The problem could be that it's ECC, but I can't find any documentation that says that this board will not accept ECC ram. Does anyone know if ECC is not compatible with the Shuttle AN35N ultra?


thanks

 

[bunker]

From your manual:

If you?ve changed your CPU or overclocked your system, the system may fail to boot up,
even with a Clear CMOS jumper physically resetted. The reason is that NVIDIA?s new
nForce2 chipset introduces a way to reset a Clear CMOS jumper without removing a
chassis. Please follow the steps listed below:

1. Turn off your computer and unplug the power cable. Reconnect it after 30 seconds;

2. Press <Insert > and then press your computer?s start button. Continue holding <Insert>
until the system begins the POST (Power-On Self Test);

3. Immediately press <Del> to enter the BIOS;

4. Select ?Load Optimized Defaults? to return your system to a bootable condition; then
select ?SAVE to CMOS and EXIT?;

5. Reboot your system.

Moreover, if your system fails to boot up after you reset the CPU FSB, select ?SAVE to
CMOS and EXIT? in the BIOS. After the system restarts, there is on screen a message
warning you not to reset or turn off your computer:

Warning! New setting is updating now
Do not Reset or Shutdown the system
Your system works after the BIOS is updated.

 

[bunker]

Originally posted by: serval

Originally posted by: JamminJimmy
The beeps are codes. For example, Two beeps followed by a pause and then one beep = 21. You then look up 21 at your BIOS's website.

Thanks Jimmy, I believe that this is the code for "bad memory" but this memory was working in my last motherboard very well (Crucial PC3200 ECC 512mb). The problem could be that it's ECC, but I can't find any documentation that says that this board will not accept ECC ram. Does anyone know if ECC is not compatible with the Shuttle AN35N ultra?


thanks

I couldn't find anything about ECC ram from Shuttle, but when you use Crucial's little memory selector thing for your MB, ECC ram does not come up as an option.

 

[Steven the Leech]

Support 3 un-buffered DDR200/266/333/400,
On Board 3 x 184-pin DDR Socket, Up to 3 GB

 

[serval]

Yeah, the tech support types at shuttle told me that DDR was not going to do it for this board, oh well.

But there are other problems that I faced after a friend allowed me to borrow his (non-ECC) memory anyway.

Couldn't detect IDE devices and wouldn't move past that part of the system start up (you know, when it comes up saying that you have such and such processor, DDR speed, detecting ide devices . . . and then you system hangs?)

I can get the system to boot from CD but it won't open the door of my CDRW and I can't have the DVD/CD=rom plugged in or it hangs during IDE detection every time.

What is going on here? Bios setting problem? Power supply? (worked great for same components and two extra fans on a biostar M7VIT just yesterday).

Any help is massively appreciated!

 

[serval]

A friend suggested that I might be able to stop the problem of system hanging when detecting IDE drives by placing the hard drives on the same cables as the cd/dvd drives (e.g. one cd-rom and one hard drive on one cable, same setup for the other). Then I could stop auto detection of the IDE drives. But is this really a solution? Wouldn't this be an unacceptable solution? What effects would this setup have on preformance?

I can't try it until tomorrow when I get my hands on some non-ECC ram, but if this is not a real solution I might as well not set up the board again (for the fifth time!).

Thanks for all the advice anandtechers!

 

[mrabe]

Problems all solved, solution was fairly simple after all. Steps for others seeking advice:

(1) repack board
(2) RMA to Newegg.com
(3) purchase MSI K7N2 Delta-L refurb for $10 more and with many MANY more features.
(4) Wire unlock your Athlon XP 2400+
(5) stop doing all homework and play videogames.
(6) Create portable perpetual motion machine and sell to Ford for a massive profit (so that no one will ever bring down their petrol puking, gas guzzling, SUVs/small mobile homes).
(7) Try to ignore california recall because of important AMD64 release.

Or just have better luck with refurbs the first time around.

Smithers

 

[buffalo2u]

The beeping is 1 long, 2 short? Long beeps?

 

[mrabe]

Originally posted by: buffalo2u
The beeping is 1 long, 2 short? Long beeps?

Infinite loop of long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause long beep then long pause

There is no variation, I think that this is a bad memory code, but it's not important anymore since I RAMed the board for an MSI K7N2 Delta-L

Abe

 

[JamminJimmy]

You purchased a refurbished MSI board? Man that takes balls, seeing as MSI boards are so darn finicky in the first place. Please let us know how this board works out. It will be interesting to find out if you need to do steps 1, 2 and 5 again.