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Help Me with setting up RAID... "storage drives"

JBT

Lifer
Hey guys I just got two 400GB Seagate drives.
I'm going to use my Raptor as my OS drive and the two Seagates just for storage and applications.
The problem is, is that Windows is detecting three drives. Obviously two 400 GB Seagates and the one Raptor. Shouldn't it detect one Large drive equalling ~800GB and the single Raptor???

I have set up RAID in the BIOS and set up an array using the NVRAID by pushing F10 to set the two drives in a 64K stripe. While booting it says "HEALTHY" for the RAID array and I also previously installed the SATA RAID drivers as well.

Any help would be appricated. Not sure what else I need to be doing. In windows I can set them to dynamic disks and set up software RAID but thats not what I'm trying to do...
 
Originally posted by: skrewler2
you're doing something wrong.

try using the nvraid windows utility, it's easy

hmm I don't even have anything like that... nor can I find it on the web.
 
thx for the help. Finally reloading the entire driver suite seemed to take care of the issue. weird. now to format the entire 800GB... fun
 
Ouch and I thought formatting my 465gb array was painful 🙁

Glad it was just a driver glitch for you. My RAID install went almost perfect, I put the drives in the case, plugged them in, hit the raid bios, setup the stripe, booted into windows and formatted the array.
 
If I had those drives in RAID 0, all I would do is worry about one going out and losing all my data.
Don't get me wrong, I like Seagate drives, but RAID 0 for so much storage would make me nervous. I would sleep better with RAID 1.
But that's just me. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Blain
If I had those drives in RAID 0, all I would do is worry about one going out and losing all my data.
Don't get me wrong, I like Seagate drives, but RAID 0 for so much storage would make me nervous. I would sleep better with RAID 1.
But that's just me. 😉


Yes, RAID 0 and storage should not be in the same sentence.
 
Originally posted by: Blain
If I had those drives in RAID 0, all I would do is worry about one going out and losing all my data.
Don't get me wrong, I like Seagate drives, but RAID 0 for so much storage would make me nervous. I would sleep better with RAID 1.
But that's just me. 😉

right, but raid1 requires more drives, more SATA ports, and more heat in the case. How often do you have drives die on you? 🙂
 
RAID 0 is nice if you need a fast volume for large file transfers or have an application that can make use of high sustained transfer rates. I wouldn't trust long-term data you care about it to, though. Regardless of the drives dying, you'll more likely have a glitch with the Nvidia RAID controller/drivers and corrupt the array. NvRAID is pretty fast and generally reliable enough for a home desktop, but don't expect it to never flake out on you.
 
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Blain
If I had those drives in RAID 0, all I would do is worry about one going out and losing all my data.
Don't get me wrong, I like Seagate drives, but RAID 0 for so much storage would make me nervous. I would sleep better with RAID 1.
But that's just me. 😉

right, but raid1 requires more drives, more SATA ports, and more heat in the case. How often do you have drives die on you? 🙂
RAID 1 only requires two HDs, exactly like RAID 0 that the poster plans on using.
RAID 1+0 requires 4 drives, two striped and two mirrored.

 
Originally posted by: Blain
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Blain
If I had those drives in RAID 0, all I would do is worry about one going out and losing all my data.
Don't get me wrong, I like Seagate drives, but RAID 0 for so much storage would make me nervous. I would sleep better with RAID 1.
But that's just me. 😉

right, but raid1 requires more drives, more SATA ports, and more heat in the case. How often do you have drives die on you? 🙂
RAID 1 only requires two HDs, exactly like RAID 0 that the poster plans on using.
RAID 1+0 requires 4 drives, two striped and two mirrored.

I stand corrected.... but don't you only get half the size of a raid0 array with a raid1 array, thus negating the benefits of buying two, smaller cheaper drives, and instead requiring you to buy two larger, more expensive drives to get the same amount of space of a raid0 array? 😛
 
Your question mark at the end of your sentence leads me to believe you are asking a question, but I just can't tell what that is.

* RAID 1 is not for maximum capacity from two drives.
* RAID 1 is not for maximum performance from two drives. Although there are some aspects of performance that can be realized with mirroring.
* RAID 1 is all about "Redundancy".
 
Yup, I agree, I dont know why you're even using RAID in this case. If you don't want to "lose" 400gb of space in exchange for redundancy, use JBOD.

bai!!!
 
Originally posted by: skrewler2
Yup, I agree, I dont know why you're even using RAID in this case. If you don't want to "lose" 400gb of space in exchange for redundancy, use JBOD.

bai!!!

Like the topic summary says and always had said. I'm just messing around. I don't plan on putting anything mission critical on there while its in RAID 0 and I mostly just wanted to get it to work as I had never set up RAID before. I know all about the benifits and negatives or RAID 0 and 1. I had just never set it up before and this accomplished that task. Once I'm done I'll be setting up JBOD but until then its testing time.
 
Originally posted by: JBT
Originally posted by: skrewler2
Yup, I agree, I dont know why you're even using RAID in this case. If you don't want to "lose" 400gb of space in exchange for redundancy, use JBOD.

bai!!!

Like the topic summary says and always had said. I'm just messing around. I don't plan on putting anything mission critical on there while its in RAID 0 and I mostly just wanted to get it to work as I had never set up RAID before. I know all about the benifits and negatives or RAID 0 and 1. I had just never set it up before and this accomplished that task. Once I'm done I'll be setting up JBOD but until then its testing time.

Ehh FVCK RAID. I got 2x7200.10s and I ran RAID-0 for a month before I hit the wrong button in Windows Vista one day and it killed the partition tables. I have 6 drives stuck into my computer as I'm doing a disc recovery of something like 300GB of data. Thank goodness I had my old drives still intact and I didn't do a full migration onto RAID-0. I'll just keep the two drives UNRAIDed from now on.

honestly, put the two drives in non-raid mode or use RAID1.

All you need to make sure is your NV RAID drivers are setup properly, and Windows will recognize your drives.

I plugged in my drives, rebooted and bam Windows saw it all.

BTW your setup is quite similar to mine, so I know what you're dealing with. (Opteron 170 @ 2.5, DFI UltraD, Raptor + 2x7200.10s, 250gb 7200.9, ocz plat 2gb.. etc)

Edit: if you insist on using RAID-0, stick wtih 64kb stripe.
 
Hello there guys this is my first post!

I have been contemplating setting up with a raid for some time, now i am just looking into it. Can someone please answer a few questions for me it would be greatly appreciated as my mobo manual and google are leaving me a bit confused.

I have 2X200 gb maxtor drives and was wondering if i could use the two of them with my os too, if so whats the best method to do this. To be honest i know nothing at all about what i have to do, this task seems quite advanced. The drives are sata 150, how much faster IS using a raid array? Is it actually worth doing it?

If anyone can help me out a great thanks to you i really want to do this. Oh do i need a third hard drive to take the os, i hope i dont.

Thanks guys!!

Ray.
 
Installing the OS on a RAID array means having the drivers at install time on a floppy and pressing F6 (or "slipstreaming" them onto a custom installation image). Many people who do this regularly tend to avoid putting the OS on the RAID array for simplicity and flexibility.

Running RAID 5 typically means losing significantly in write performance unless you have a higher-end add-on storage controller.
 
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