Help me, system build! I'm a confused old man.

jamthree

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Ok so I am 42 and have been building my own PC's since my first 386 in the early 90's. That being said I got used to a 2-3 year refresh and would save up appx 2k to build a new rig every 2-3 years. Wel that seems to have changed when on 4/16/2009 (looked up my newegg order history) I purchased this chip

Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W
Water Cooled running at 3.4 ghz stable for appx 4 years, well all i do is write sql so select DATEDIFF(DAY,'4/16/2009', getdate()) = 1527days

So I go an buy this nice new 60" LG LED LCD w/3D and figure that this time I want to use a HTPC instead of the playstation 3 and hey why not go ahead and upgrade my PC and use my old parts in the HTPC, the only upgrade I did to the rig was replacing the gtx 285 with a

EVGA SuperClocked+ 03G-P4-3663-KR GeForce GTX 660 Ti 3GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP

So my current rig i'm running on a 27" LG 1920x1080 16:9 monitor and I figure I will transfer the old card and get a new 700 series card and hey i'm upgrading I should get a new monitor, which to me is always where I start with a new rig. What a freaking minefield choosing a new monitor is basically to upgrade I gotta shell out 1k or more to get a 30" 2560X1600 that or ~$600 to sidegrade to a 27" 2560x1600. How have these monitors not become more mainstream / reduce cost in the last 4 years? Anyways I figure I will have to really eat it there and shell out the $1200 for the Dell u3014, ugh (not chancing the 500-800 koreans).

And now I come here and start researching CPU's figuring the Haswell just came out so this one will be easy, sigh. What the heck is going on, from the limited old comparisons I can find my bloomfield is still an impressive chip. I am running pretty hard into their being no reason for me to upgrade (except maybe go ahead and get an SSD) and just go ahead and get something reasonable for an HTPC.

So if anyone here can help me out with CPU's compared to my bloomfield I saw the AMD FX-9590 is coming out soon and although I got divorced from AMD over a decade ago alot of memories having me thinking of taking her out on a date again. Especially since intell appears to be too good for taking up precious space with graphics I wish were being used for more processing power and spending way too much time with her "mobile" friends.

Appreciate any perspectives especially: intel vs amd, my old bloomfield vs current cpu's, and what I should expect if I just hold off for another year.

my use is,

Gaming, pretty much everything

Programming work (which means visual studio(since its the real resource hog the other ide's don't count)/ sql server|oracle|postgres(local instance but I turn it off when gaming)

Video editing, I have a 1080p camcorder, various phones, and 2 kids so I have a lot of pictures and video and am doing more and more editing. (this one digs my intel grave doesn't it sigh)

Will probably slight OC and water cool

Thanks!
 
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_Rick_

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The key problem with your plan, is that 6-core CPUs still cost the same as they did back in the days you bought your i7-920.


With regard to FX-9590: Just no. You will need pretty big cooling, and pay crazy money, while not being able to overclock. If you want to put that kind of money down, I would recommend to wait until IB-E launches in three months, and get the slower of the 6-core CPUs.

That one still is unreasonably priced, but will be great for video editing, and with quad channel memory it should take 64GB easily, and possibly even 128, if 16GB UDIMMs make it to market in DDR3 form. Memory is key for sql, and visual studio. Enough means you won't need to turn anything off for gaming.

6 core IB-E @ an easy 4.2 should have more than twice as much raw compute as the 920 @ 3.4, and also fall roughly within the same thermal regime, while offering better memory bandwidth and faster I/O (SATA, PCIe, USB - X79 isn't that great, but a step above X58.
 
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Wow, wait 20 years and then tell me about old and confused!!

Anyway, I would probably recommend a 3770k or 4770k. Hex core Ivy would obviously give more performance, but I am not sure it is worth it. A hyperthreaded intel quad will be quite fast at video editing and almost as fast in gaming as the hex core.

As for the FX, it is cheaper and competitive in a few current heavily threaded games, but overall the intel is a much more well rounded processor if you intend to play different types of games such as RTS games, mmos, or older games that rely on single threaded performance. The FX is faster in some encoding benchmarks however.

The 660Ti is a good card, but honestly with a single card of that power, you will be gpu limited in most scenarios, so for gaming a 3570k would be a good choice, but it will be slower at encoding than the hyperthreaded 3770k or the 8350.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Well if min 50% faster OC vs OC, while using 1/3 the power, and a new platform aren't enough to sway you than get an SSD and build a cheap HTPC.
 

Bubbleawsome

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The bloomfield is still a beast. The 1st gen i series was ahead of it's time. But CPU upgrade wise I would look at IB-e, it looks like it might be 8 core and a 4930 will still do great. GPU wise a 7950/670 is minumum for max gaming at 1080p, and I would recommend a 780.

So over all, I would keep the current CPU (maybe try and get to 4.0), get a 780/titan and that's about it. My i7 870 is still going strong, no real reson to upgrade. If you need a CPU though get a 3960/4960, it has more cache than a 3930/4930 and is cheaper than a 3960/4960.
 

pauldun170

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Ok so I am 42 and have been building my own PC's since my first 386 in the early 90's. That being said I got used to a 2-3 year refresh and would save up appx 2k to build a new rig every 2-3 years. Wel that seems to have changed when on 4/16/2009 (looked up my newegg order history) I purchased this chip

Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W
Water Cooled running at 3.4 ghz stable for appx 4 years, well all i do is write sql so select DATEDIFF(DAY,'4/16/2009', getdate()) = 1527days

So I go an buy this nice new 60" LG LED LCD w/3D and figure that this time I want to use a HTPC instead of the playstation 3 and hey why not go ahead and upgrade my PC and use my old parts in the HTPC, the only upgrade I did to the rig was replacing the gtx 285 with a

EVGA SuperClocked+ 03G-P4-3663-KR GeForce GTX 660 Ti 3GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP

So my current rig i'm running on a 27" LG 1920x1080 16:9 monitor and I figure I will transfer the old card and get a new 700 series card and hey i'm upgrading I should get a new monitor, which to me is always where I start with a new rig. What a freaking minefield choosing a new monitor is basically to upgrade I gotta shell out 1k or more to get a 30" 2560X1600 that or ~$600 to sidegrade to a 27" 2560x1600. How have these monitors not become more mainstream / reduce cost in the last 4 years? Anyways I figure I will have to really eat it there and shell out the $1200 for the Dell u3014, ugh (not chancing the 500-800 koreans).

And now I come here and start researching CPU's figuring the Haswell just came out so this one will be easy, sigh. What the heck is going on, from the limited old comparisons I can find my bloomfield is still an impressive chip. I am running pretty hard into their being no reason for me to upgrade (except maybe go ahead and get an SSD) and just go ahead and get something reasonable for an HTPC.

So if anyone here can help me out with CPU's compared to my bloomfield I saw the AMD FX-9590 is coming out soon and although I got divorced from AMD over a decade ago alot of memories having me thinking of taking her out on a date again. Especially since intell appears to be too good for taking up precious space with graphics I wish were being used for more processing power and spending way too much time with her "mobile" friends.

Appreciate any perspectives especially: intel vs amd, my old bloomfield vs current cpu's, and what I should expect if I just hold off for another year.

my use is,

Gaming, pretty much everything

Programming work (which means visual studio(since its the real resource hog the other ide's don't count)/ sql server|oracle|postgres(local instance but I turn it off when gaming)

Video editing, I have a 1080p camcorder, various phones, and 2 kids so I have a lot of pictures and video and am doing more and more editing. (this one digs my intel grave doesn't it sigh)

Will probably slight OC and water cool

Thanks!

I have a similar usage scenario. If I were to go shopping to replace my 2700K rig, I'd probably build this out

i7-Haswell
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116501

This mobo for the dual nics (helpful when setting up test environments)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157371

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125463
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&PageSize=20

Load it up with 16gb or 32gb ram or whatever you need

this is a pretty decent PS for a good price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371044

Os drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147193
For VMs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147189
Data drive (x2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822149396