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help me prove this math problem(math gurus)...

Semidevil

Diamond Member
ok, prove that the natural numbers, the even natural numbers, and the odd natural numbers all have the same cardinality.

so from this, I guess it is saying that

l N l = l 2N l = l 2N+1 l

now, I need to prove that.

so from what I know, having bijection for all 3 implies that they all have the same cardinality. So that is my main problem. how do I show they are all bijective?

I think it is pretty obvious that 2N is injective to N, because numbers in 2N will always hit something in N(since N contains everything). Also, same for 2N + 1. but that only proves injective.

to prove bijective, if you can find injective AND surjective, then it proves bijective, and therefore, would prove cardinality.

another way is to prove that A ---> B is injective and B ----> A is injective, then that would also prove bijective, which means it is cardinal.

for the first method, I dont see how it is surjective, and for the second method, I dont see how A ----> B is injective. If 2N is B, and N is A, then I can see how B ----> A is injective....but that is all?

any tips or aything guys?
 
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
If N was N!, then that would make a lot more sense to me

nope, double checked, the problem doesnt ask for N factorial...........just N(as in the natural numbers)...
 
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