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Help me pick a mac (buncha option inside)

halik

halik

Lifer
Allright, i decided to get a macintosh. I have few options:

a) Get a powersupply with logicboard, buy the other parts and hack it into an atx case > final cost ~550

b) Get barebones g4 with case/psu/board/cpu and buy the rest > final cost ~650

c) Get a case with psu, but the other stuff > ~700 (better specs than b, same as a)

Either way i gotta get mac geforce (or somethign like that), some ram and i do have the rest lying around.
 
Why...... in the hell....... would you WANT...... a Mac?

I just busted one up with a sledge, two half sticks, and 00 buck shot last week. Worthless POS. Of course it was a IIc, but in any case! 😀
 
not thread crapping but u said something stuipd


<< well, the most advanced os today runs on em... (yeah, its not windows...) >>



yah but its not mac os x...
 
I hear OS 9 is compatible with more software than OSX... don't know much about macs other than every design major I know has one and for some reason their printers print better than mine.
 
os x and 9 are comatible both ways (or so i read) and im going for graphic minor

you can get all the parts on ebay (if you see halik007 anywhere, dont bid!)
 


<< os x and 9 are comatible both ways (or so i read) and im going for graphic minor

you can get all the parts on ebay (if you see halik007 anywhere, dont bid!) >>




no you can't. I jsut looked on ebay, not a single G4 mobo, and only one case.

edit: Wait, here's a motherboard. Only $289.
 
I'll make one for you if you want..the steps are simple...

1. Buy a colored plastic box (ugly neon colors work best...bonus marks if its translucent)
2. Open up the box
3. Take off pants & underwear
4. Relieve yourself inside the box
5. Reseal box

 
ugh great, yet another wintel idiot.

"i never seen a mac in real life, but umm aol rules on my windows machine"

just shut your mouth


Ebay-wise, search for "g4 logic" (they call em logic boards, not motherboard)
 
I want either a g4 or a Titanium to play around with. I wouldnt do anything more with it.


But actually, more and more high end graphics companies (Special Effects companies, etc....) are moving to Linux for their heavy work. Both Dreamworks and ILM are slowly migrating, and some local graphics companies are making the move as well.


YAY LINUX!
 


<< ugh great, yet another wintel idiot.

"i never seen a mac in real life, but umm aol rules on my windows machine"

just shut your mouth

 >>




And this is why most people think of mac users as retards. Macs have NEVER been better than PCs, except in the graphics department, and Linux is closing the gap for PCs there. I just want one to play around with, so I can know what Im doing should I run into a company that uses Macs.
 


<< os x and 9 are comatible both ways >>



Wrong! They are not all compatible. It like upgrading from any MAC OS. You're going to lose something.



<< ugh great, yet another wintel idiot. >>



Who said he was a Intel user? Who said he used Windows? Geez... has anyone told you about dual-CPU mobo's and Linux? I think.... no..... I know that would beat a G4 into the ground! Well, if you want to spend a bunch of $$$$$$$ on a MAC, it's your loss. I don't know where you're getting all this hype about MAC's. They're just made for a simple user to make computer newbies look good. Man, where's that sledge? Someone gave me a Quadra. 😀
 
Halik, go with "b" the barebones but nearly complete box, especially if this is your first Mac. Apple does some funny things with their hardware, and while it is indeed possible to hack something together, it's usually not worth it. Especially if you want to run OS X which is very picky about what components it is compatible with.

You've obviously been looking at prices so I probably don't need to tell you that many peripherals are going to be more expensive than their Wintel counterparts. Take the Mac GeForce you're looking for. It will probably cost you 1.5x what the PC equivalent would cost.

As for the OS X hardware compatibility, I'll just give you a quick example. I have a USB Que CDRW that I bought a couple years ago. It's obviously pre-OS X, but Que as a vendor has always been a Mac supporter. With OS X my CDRW is now useless. Apple refuses to support it, and Que can't write OS X drivers for it. Since you're looking at a geforce card, be sure to read in mac forums like MacNN and macfixit. I've read complaints about OS X and GF3.

Personally, OS X is the reason I've completely given up with the Mac. I'm a professional graphic designer who has used the Mac since it was introduced, but OS X does nothing but make me mad. It's NeXT with a Mac face. It doesn't feel like a Mac, it doesn't work like a Mac, and Apple is screwing customers of supposedly supported hardware. (I.E. my old Mac that can do some QuickTime dev with OS 9 will never be able to with OS X because Apple has decided they won't enable the hardware acceleration on that machine with their "upgrade" OS.) If you like that, then great, more power to you. It's just not for me.

Good luck with your design stuff, whatever you decide to do. There isn't a "right" choice, just money to spend.
 


<< ugh great, yet another wintel idiot.

"i never seen a mac in real life, but umm aol rules on my windows machine"
 >>


It was a joke, moron.

BTW I work on Macs nearly every day at school, and I still think they suck ass.
 
well i never had a mac before. I have dually sgi machine and sun workstation. Macs rock graphic and video editing wise and that what im doing (graphic minor).

There are NO graphic companies that i know of that use linux. Its because there is no highend software available. They either use sgi mips machines or macs. (maybe itanium now). I dont know of any highend software thats been ported to linux. Both maya or ligtwave work on mac, windows or irix. Also graphic titles liek photoshop, illustrator or quark work on those. Quite honestly linux just doesnt cut it there. Dont get me workng, i use linux on all my servers, but i still dont thing it has evolved far enought for a desktop sytem.

On the other hand I dont see what the linuxdesktop hype all about, i mean i've been using it several years now, but it wont replace my desktop. Its the little things that annoy me out of it. I think beos is a better candidate for desktop system (than linux anyway), ecept it pretty much dead now

edit:

i think il build one from spare parts. The new g4 use quite a bit of pc parts (ram,hdd,cdrom video card etc), so this sohuld save me money in long run. Also aboutthat geforce thing, jsut buy pc version and flash it with mac bios. It will save you lotsa cash
 
Why are you guys crapping in this guys thread? My god, there ARE things besides PC's, and people are entitled to use them if they want.

god damn.....

hardly anyone has actually been HELPing this guy, which is what he asked for. Keep your crap opinions to yourselves and quit ruining other peoples threads.
 
I'd actually like to have one to play around with, but mostly because I think the titanium laptop looks really cool....but bloody expensive, aren't they? I'd go with option b) there since it'll probably give you the least amount of problems - I've heard horror stories of people having terrible compatibility problems when buying parts for a mac and putting them together like a PC.
 
actually i dont mind those. Debates are fun 🙂

I used to be just like the kami few years back, but then i got a job at a Tech company and got to use mac for graphic works. I cant realy say what it is, but it seems lot more "fluid" to work on those. It just feels smooth and all.
 
the whole mac/pc thing just gets reeeeeeeeeeeally old

if someone wants to use a mac, let them, god macs are not the end of the world.

some people act like they are.
 


<< I'll make one for you if you want..the steps are simple...

1. Buy a colored plastic box (ugly neon colors work best...bonus marks if its translucent)
2. Open up the box
3. Take off pants & underwear
4. Relieve yourself inside the box
5. Reseal box >>



LOL. how true it is.
 
Okay, first off, just to put my opinion in perspective I've only used Windows in the last three years, but I've used the Mac longer than many people on the AT forums have been alive. And I did graphic design without computers before the Mac revolution hit.

Halik, what kind of design work are you planning on doing, and are you looking to do it professionally? If it's print/2D work, then you are absolutely correct about the Mac being the platform. Unfortunately, with OS X, most pro shops I know are taking a "wait and see, but be ready to move to Windows" attitude. The most important thing for these places is that you don't disturb the workflow, so most of them probably aren't going to gamble and install OS X for a few years yet. I know we aren't.

If you're looking at video/3D work, then Windows is in the lead. Apple has made inroads with Final Cut Pro for OS 9 and Maya for OS X, but the pro market is still more Windows. Looking back at NAB this year, I'd place it about 70% Windows and 30% Mac.

Two key parts that make the Mac better at design are fonts and printing. I've learned that I can use Photoshop and Illustrator and such on Windows just as easily. When I find myself stumbling is when it comes to font management of thousands of postscript fonts and how Windows handles that, and printing. Printing just seems to work better with the Mac. I partly blame my inexperience with Windows though. I have so many more years of Mac experience that sometimes I think it gets in the way of my Windows use.

For all that, because of OS X I still wouldn't let my friends buy a Mac these days. I won't tell you not to because it's apparent that you know what you're getting into, but for my friends who have only ever used the classic Mac, OS X is like a great maelstrom. It's too unfinished, and too much change for the traditional Mac user. But then, my friends and coworkers who need their Macs already have them. You get to jump into the storm all naked and new.
 
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