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Help me pick a 65" 4K TV for my Dad: LG 65UH615A -or- Samsung 6290

WhipperSnapper

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...Yeah...I posted this in Home Theater but it seems like a low traffic forum so thought I'd post here.

I need to help my Dad pick a 65" 4K TV, preferably from Costco. (Yeah, I know they were on sale during Black Friday). How would you choose between LG and Saumsung? I've read that Samsung has better non-OLED TVs.

Costco has:

LG 65" 65UH615A for $967 (in store price)

Samsung 65"UN65KU 6290 FXZA for $990

Which has the better picture?

Which is more likely to last longer and have fewer problems?

Better and easier Smart TV interface and functionality?
 
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Generally you can't go wrong with a Samsung.

I picked up a 65" TCL 4K recently & it's the bomb, even though it's not a name-brand TV. Those extra pixels on the 4K screen make it look awesome. One of the reasons I got it was for the built-in 4K Roku. Easy remote, easy GUI, easy inputs (the inputs all show up as channels that you can name). Not sure if you're set on staying at Costco or not tho.
 
Just make sure you, and your dad, understand what you are paying for--and maybe determine ahead of time if what you are paying for can be observed. Most folks ignored the fact that their vision, corrected or otherwise, couldn't resolve 1080P from their viewing distance. If the viewing distance isn't change then ... marketers love you.
 
BarkingGhostar said:
Just make sure you, and your dad, understand what you are paying for--and maybe determine ahead of time if what you are paying for can be observed. Most folks ignored the fact that their vision, corrected or otherwise, couldn't resolve 1080P from their viewing distance. If the viewing distance isn't change then ... marketers love you.
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I'll throw one thing in that argument...picture quality. You get 4 times as many pixels per square inch on a 4K TV as you do on a 1080p TV. I've seen a lot of terrible 1080p sets, but I have yet to see a truly terrible 4K set & that's due to the extra pixels. You get a better 1080p picture thanks to that. That includes 4K sets from Sceptre, TCL, Seiki, HiSense, Hitachi, etc.

The only real catch is that you need to sit a certain distance away from a 4K set so that the aliasing disappears. Upscaling to 4K generally gives an over-sharpened look, but if you sit back at a proper distance (judge with your eyeballs in the store to get a feel for it), that basically makes it disappear.
 
also, if you're buying from Costco and have the Costco citi Visa, use that. You get extra two years warranty with that. I also purchased the square trade plan for $60 so now I have a 7 yr warranty on my TV. I usually don't buy additional warranty, but this was too good of a deal to pass up on.
 
My vote goes for Vizio as well. It's a lot more $$ on the other sets to get to the ones that have local lighting.
 
Kaido said:
I'll throw one thing in that argument...picture quality. You get 4 times as many pixels per square inch on a 4K TV as you do on a 1080p TV. I've seen a lot of terrible 1080p sets, but I have yet to see a truly terrible 4K set & that's due to the extra pixels. You get a better 1080p picture thanks to that. That includes 4K sets from Sceptre, TCL, Seiki, HiSense, Hitachi, etc.

The only real catch is that you need to sit a certain distance away from a 4K set so that the aliasing disappears. Upscaling to 4K generally gives an over-sharpened look, but if you sit back at a proper distance (judge with your eyeballs in the store to get a feel for it), that basically makes it disappear.
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I'm not advocating against 4K. And unless you are sourcing 4K content then artifacts already in 1080P are going to be 4X more pronounced. Still, a blind person can't benefit from seeing things outside their current physiology.
 
The SMART TV functionality on my 55" Samsung is easy enough to use, but I can't permanently turn off the random "feed you advertisements" "feature." It's really annoying. I don't know if all Smart TV software is like this, but I'd gladly switch to another manufacturer that wisely understands that software is a feature that I have already paid for--not one that is "freemium, with advertising!"
 
WhipperSnapper said:
I've read that the problem with the Vizios is that their Smart TV functionality doesn't work real well - connection problems, etc.
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I'm getting 4k netflix from across my house - probably 50+ feet through a kitchen and a wall - with a TP-Link AC router.

My TV model is a P702ui-B3. YMMV but it has worked well for me. My laptop situated in a similar spot in the house struggled maintaining a 5ghz connection. Samsung ultrabook from 2013.
 
BarkingGhostar said:
I'm not advocating against 4K. And unless you are sourcing 4K content then artifacts already in 1080P are going to be 4X more pronounced. Still, a blind person can't benefit from seeing things outside their current physiology.
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But can you even find a 65" 1080p TV anymore for good value?

I haven't shopped TVs in awhile so I'm not sure. I just feel like all TVs in the 55"+ range I see are usually 4K which the 55-60" range appears to be the best bang for buck value.
 
WhipperSnapper said:
I've read that the problem with the Vizios is that their Smart TV functionality doesn't work real well - connection problems, etc.
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A lot of the new ones just have Chromecast built in, which is very easy to use for anyone familiar with it. Even if you hate it I would take Vizio picture quality and value plus a Roku over any non OLED TV any day.

If Vizio is off your list out of the two I would pick Samsung if I had to, but really I think large Edge Lit LEDs are a waste of money except for crazy deals.
 
BarkingGhostar said:
I'm not advocating against 4K. And unless you are sourcing 4K content then artifacts already in 1080P are going to be 4X more pronounced. Still, a blind person can't benefit from seeing things outside their current physiology.
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I can't tell you how many times I've had to swap a yellow Composite cable out for an HDMI cable on a flat-screen TV for people. There's a big segment that thinks big screen = great picture & are happy to show off their TV, not realizing how bad the picture actually looks. Fortunately, most people have been able to see a difference between composite & HDMI after I switch them.
 
WhipperSnapper said:
I've read that the problem with the Vizios is that their Smart TV functionality doesn't work real well - connection problems, etc.
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The biggest problem with all smart TV's is the smarts. Number one, a lot of companies don't update the software over time. Number two, a lot of companies don't let you add new sources or have a limited app store (ex. it may support Netflix, but not Amazon Video). Number three, some of them have fancy, but not good, interfaces. I like Roku because it's very easy. Big channel blocks, just like iPhone or Android apps. Tons of channels to download. Small, simple remote. Mom & Grandma-friendly. Plus if you buy a TV with a Roku built-in, it also lets the various inputs show up as channels rather than the stupid input list that 90% of the people don't understand.
 
Vizio no longer makes TV's ... there is no ATSC tuner, so they only make displays.

That LG was nearly $600 on Black Friday. I got the 65UH6030 (which seems to be the same TV) It's a good $600 TV, but I would definitely go with the Samsung for $900.
 
Just picked up the 65" 4K vizio M series after thanksgiving. I love the damn thing, got it at Costco for $680, a deal I couldn't refuse. I think it's essentially the same as the e series, just didn't come with a tablet. I can control the thing from my phone for streaming, which is pretty damn sweet, but I haven't figured out all the bells and whistles yet. I use my fire stick for most streaming stuff anyway, but my wife was showing me a YouTube video on her phone a couple nights ago and all of a sudden it was streaming to the TV, so we didn't have to strain to see it.
 
NoTine42 said:
Vizio no longer makes TV's ... there is no ATSC tuner, so they only make displays.
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I've seen that terminology exploding over at Slickdeals...what a load of BS. Gimme a break, it's a tunerless TV 😀

I know technically (legally, I guess), they have to call a TV without a tuner a "Home Theater Display"...what a joke. Grammer Nazis are everywhere!
 
I've got a 70" Vizio M series and love it. It's not a smart tv so no worries about security or updating. It just has chromecast built in, so I can cast from the included tablet or my phone or ipad. We bought in the off-season though, around summer when we got our new house. I think we got it for ~$1800 from Costco along with squaretrade warranty. No problems so far.
 
NoTine42 said:
Vizio no longer makes TV's ... there is no ATSC tuner, so they only make displays.

That LG was nearly $600 on Black Friday. I got the 65UH6030 (which seems to be the same TV) It's a good $600 TV, but I would definitely go with the Samsung for $900.
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I cant remember the last time I plugged a coaxial cable right into the TV.
 
I got a cheapo Vizio 65" E series and it blew the picture quality of my 40" westinghouse away. PC games looked like Dreamcast VGA mode to see the difference in quality between the two. Of course, it's 60hz and no HDR. So perfect for my budget, but definitely would have got the M series if money was not the driving factor in my purchase.
 
Sonikku said:
I got a cheapo Vizio 65" E series and it blew the picture quality of my 40" westinghouse away. PC games looked like Dreamcast VGA mode to see the difference in quality between the two. Of course, it's 60hz and no HDR. So perfect for my budget, but definitely would have got the M series if money was not the driving factor in my purchase.
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Yeah same for me...HDR etc. is amazing, but I'm perfectly happy with my 60Hz non-HDR TCL 4K set. Next upgrade probably won't be until 8K haha.
 
NoTine42 said:
Vizio no longer makes TV's ... there is no ATSC tuner, so they only make displays.

That LG was nearly $600 on Black Friday. I got the 65UH6030 (which seems to be the same TV) It's a good $600 TV, but I would definitely go with the Samsung for $900.
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This is huge. Does Vizio know this?
 
Aharami said:
I cant remember the last time I plugged a coaxial cable right into the TV.
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It's a big deal for many of the growing number of "cord cutters" that are cancelling cable or satellite TV service, and mostly using Internet streaming.

I have a big antenna in my attic. It's a nice option as a backup to Satellite.
 
If you're going budget I'd go with the Vizio. It has the most features for less; most important being HDR.

LG is good for their high end OLEDs.

Samsung doesn't start getting really good til their KS8000 series, which you missed out on their Black Friday sale since they had a 65in KS8000 for right around $1k.
 
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