Help me out here ATOT!

[ruffilb]

How do the two relate?

I say, we're using a majority rule system that has created our current immigration policy, but my friend says that's shaky.

What do you think?

 

[FoBoT]

uh, what?

are you talking about the legal immigration laws?

or the lack of enforcement of those laws? (ie all the illegal immigration)

 

[MoPHo]

this thread has too many big words...like 'relate'

it might belong here...

 

[ruffilb]

Just any relationship between majority rule and current US immigration policy. I'm trying to say that since the US is governed by a majority rule system, any legal byproducts of it are consistent with majority rule. Majority rule is the most important value for democracy, and therefore current US immigration policy is consistent with democratic ideals... Actually, I'm arguing the affirmative of:

Resolved: In matters of current US Immigration policy, restrictions on the rights of non-citizens are consistent with democratic ideals.

I'm saying that since Current US Immigration policy is consistent with majority rule (the restrictions being consistent with immigration policy) and majority rule being the most important value for democracy (greatest good for greatest #, foundation of freedom, etc), "In matters of current US Immigration policy, restrictions on the rights of non-citizens are consistent with democratic ideals."

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: MoPHo
this thread has too many big words...like 'relate'

it might belong here...

Possibly, but this is more of a philisophical/common sense question than feedback on politics or news.

 

[FoBoT]

you use the word "democracy" and its derivitives WAY too many times

the united states is a Constitution-based federal republic, NOT a democracy

you have been drinking too much socialist kool-aid

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
you use the word "democracy" and its derivitives WAY too many times

the united states is a Constitution-based federal republic, NOT a democracy

you have been drinking too much socialist kool-aid

Intruiging... it might be possible to argue an N/A for the neg case because of this.

Not trying to piss you off or anything FoBoT, but this is a debate question, and for the sake of an aff case:

Democratic is defined as "Of the nature of, or characterized by, democracy."
Democratic is defined as "A state or community in which the government is vested in the people as a whole."

According to the preamble of the constitution, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

 

[ruffilb]

I'd just like to let you guys know that P&N is owning you guys,