For gaming at 1920x1080, 5850 for $280, gtx 470 evga for $308 after BCB, or a GTX 470 galaxy with upgraded cooler for $340 after BCB. I would not be overclocking anything and my budget maxes at $350. I cannot get myself to buy one. I really want physx, though not sure a single card solution can handle it. I mainly game with some dvd watching. *sigh* I desire the 470, but the noise and higher cost are kinda pushing me away. I only upgrade every 2 years.