Help me find a clean, solid, well designed motherboard

JPS

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I sat down last night to start to design a new workstation for myself as I have been upgrading several client PCs and I am starting to realize my E8400 is a little underpowered for my current needs. I am settled on CPU and am going with a quad-core S1156 or S1136 CPU - need need for hexa-core and I do not foresee such a need either.

What I cannot find a good motherboard - for either socket. By the end, I am sure this will sound like a <rant>, but I am amazed it is so hard to find a clean, basic motherboard. By that I mean one that is not loaded with onboard sound as almost every onboard solution sounds like crap. I want a motherboard where if it does have onboard features, say with the NIC(s), it uses quality parts like Intel chipsets. I want a motherboard that gives you the ability to overclock, should you want to. I do not want a motherboard that uses crazy colors and LEDs - I know there is a market demographic for this, but I am sure there is a demographic like clean understated designs as well.

In terms of manufacturer's I am a fan of pretty much Asus, Gigabyte, and Supermicro. They all make great motherboards, but finding one that meets the criteria I laid out above is harder than finding a Yeti. Gigabyte is pretty much ruled out at the beginning b/c they all have onbaord sound, they continue to put FDD and PATA headers on their boards, and their colors tend to make me want to vomit. Now, I use their motherboards all day long for client builds because they are well made and offer features that are suitable for client builds, but for my own workstation, no dice. Asus makes great boards as well, and right now, their Maximus III Formula is almost what I am looking for. My gripes against it are the colors used and the heatsinks around the socket - they are pretty much sized for decoration and not function. Flip it over to Supermicro and I like their MBD-X8SIA-F-O motherbaord except for the fact, that I need to run Xeons (cost), I could not overclock (well) the CPU used, and there is limited cooling around the socket and the chipsets.

Can someone point me to a hybrid of the best of the Asus Maximus III Formula and the Supermicro MBD-X8SIA-F-O? Does such a motherboard even exist or should I be content to settle for something that is less than ideal?
 

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If i was to go intel i would get the ASUS Sabertooth for 1336. disable what you don't need/like. I here great things about that board!
 

JPS

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For 1156 check out this evga for $100 after mir http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188054. For 1366 just find the mb that has the features you're looking for and as already suggested disable those you don't want. With evga and asus you're getting the best service in the industry although asus has been slacking lately.

Yeah, I just started looking at EVGA motherboards. I have zero experience building with them, but their cust serv, at least based on online reviews, seems solid. The one you linked to is good, though I don't like the position of the PCI-E x1 slot and I wish there was another PCI-E slot available - not for SLI, but for other expansion cards.
 

JPS

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I have spent a fair bit of time looking deeper into this. The Supermicro board I originally linked to is my favorite, but I cannot overclock (much), the RAM is pricier as it has to be x8, and the Xeon CPUs are spendier - rat farts.

Moving back to the (pro)sumer side of the equaition, I have pretty much settled on S1156 and am not going to pursue S1136 - just no clear advantage as I will not be running two graphics cards so I am not concerned about the x16 pipelines, nor do I need triple-channel RAM. However, no matter what board I get, I will be disabling the onboard sound and NIC and using add-on cards, Xonar for sound and Intel for the NIC.

Given that, I am pretty sure it is down to either the Asus Sabertooth 55i or the EVGA P55 FTW. Cost is a big difference between the two, even with rebates. I do like that the EVGA has 3 mechanical PCI-E x16 slots as I have other add-on cars that I would like to use and the Sabertooth only has one extra x16 slot. Not a deal breaker, but nice nonetheless. Beyond price and slot configurations, the two seem pretty similar to me as I will be neutering the sound and NIC so I don't care about those differences. I do wish the Sabertooth did not have a PATA controller, but it is not the end of the world. Might even get some use out of it if I resurrect my Plextor CD-R that I used to use for rips of bad discs.

I have read reviews for both and again, they seem pretty much spot on - does anyone have any real world experience or differences that I am missing that I should consider or that might sway my decision clearly to one or the other?
 

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OMG. You sir are one of a kind guy. I don't know what to say except for you are spending too much time and effort for finding a simple board... No offense though
 

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You can always disable things you don't need in the BIOS. If you want less on your motherboard you can always go for mATX or ITX boards :)
 

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OMG. You sir are one of a kind guy. I don't know what to say except for you are spending too much time and effort for finding a simple board... No offense though

+1

Just choose a motherboard from a trusted manufacturer, disable the stuff you don't want to use, and be done with it. Also, do you have a window on your case? I don't see the need to stress over mobo colours, unless you have a windowed case. Personally, I love the red & black colour scheme.. one of the best, IMO. I'm also loving those colours on the Sabertooth.

PS -- the socket is 1366, not 1136. Sorry, that just bugs me.. lol.
 
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nenforcer

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Onboard video is doable, i.e. most high end enthusiast boards lack integrated video because they assume people can afford a high end discrete card.

Finding a board without on board audio is much harder.

As far as picking a board with / without onboard LAN you just have to be very picky in which PHY is included by the manufacturer. You are more than likely going to be looking at server / workstation boards if you want genuine Intel LAN.

You are also very likely to spend more money looking for such a board from a server vendor like Tyan than you would from a more mainstream solution which may include parts you don't want.


Exactly the opposite of cutting the cost of parts you don't want.
 

JPS

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I am 90&#37; certain I am going with an Asus Sabertooth 55i motherboard and an Intel X3440 CPU. Will be neutering the onboard NIC and Audio and using expansion cards instead.
 

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No matter what you buy you are caught in the (continuing) transition period before new cpu designs and the updated SATA-3 and USB-3 outdate it all. I needed to buy now, so am actively building an i7-950/Sabertooth system. I felt it was the best combo for my needs.

Not sure why you want to disable the NIC and onboard sound, but that is of course your decision. The NICs on my other Asus boards work as well as PCI slot boards I have tried in tests. In my home office, ultra high class sound systems sound no better than the onboard sound due to the other equipment sounds within the room. The speaker system you use seems to be the deciding quality factor, not the sound board.

There are no PATA connectors on the Sabertooth - just SATA, although you can run the SATA devices in IDE or ACHI mode.

Good luck with your build.
 
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JPS

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No matter what you buy you are caught in the (continuing) transition period before new cpu designs and the updated SATA-3 and USB-3 outdate it all. I needed to buy now, so am actively building an i7-950/Sabertooth system. I felt it was the best combo for my needs.

Not sure why you want to disable the NIC and onboard sound, but that is of course your decision. The NICs on my other Asus boards work as well as PCI slot boards I have tried in tests. In my home office, ultra high class sound systems sound no better than the onboard sound due to the other equipment sounds within the room. The speaker system you use seems to be the deciding quality factor, not the sound board.

Good luck with your build.

There is always tomorrow - literrally. I am not concernd about SATA/USB 3 as there are so few devices that meet those specs and the ones that do cannot even come close to saturating the existing bandwidth we have on the 2.0 specs. As for CPUs, yeah I could wait and wait and wait, but I tend to buy second generation anyways as the performance is usually spot on and I can save a bundle so I don't mind buying in the transition. I am upgrading from an E8400 and GeForce 7300 GT so I am a little overdue in that regards.

As for the NIC and Audio, I have a solid sound system and there is a significant difference between the audio cards I use and the onboard crap that is built in. As for networks, I do see a difference between a quality PCI-E Intel NIC and anything Marvell or Realtek can muster. Besides, I run my NICs teamed so I am using Intel no matter what.
 

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There is always tomorrow - literrally. I am not concernd about SATA/USB 3 as there are so few devices that meet those specs and the ones that do cannot even come close to saturating the existing bandwidth we have on the 2.0 specs. As for CPUs, yeah I could wait and wait and wait, but I tend to buy second generation anyways as the performance is usually spot on and I can save a bundle so I don't mind buying in the transition. I am upgrading from an E8400 and GeForce 7300 GT so I am a little overdue in that regards.

As for the NIC and Audio, I have a solid sound system and there is a significant difference between the audio cards I use and the onboard crap that is built in. As for networks, I do see a difference between a quality PCI-E Intel NIC and anything Marvell or Realtek can muster. Besides, I run my NICs teamed so I am using Intel no matter what.

I also buy during the transition period. Costs are down and kinks and bugs are ironed out. I will update again during the "second gen" Sandy Bridge socket 2011.

I just picked up an i7 950 with the Sabertooth X58 motherboard this morning. Going to be a fun weekend project.