Help me convince my dad to buy a car

swbsam

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Firstly, I'm 28 and married so this is not a post by a 14 year old who's spoiled and wants to be driven around in a trendy car, my concern is strictly for the safety of my parents. My dad has a 1994 Chrysler Town and Country that he bought new but refuses to let go of. He's an older guy (in his 70s) and doesn't let go of things until they absolutely fall apart, his last car being a 1974 Olds Mobile. The problem is that the Olds was built like a rock, the Chrysler was not and should have been replaced 5 years ago.

I recently borrowed his car to help with a move (no way am I going to let movers touch my av and computer gear!) and it was frankly one of the most terrifying driving experiences of my life - the front wheels wobbled, there was a burning smell from the engine, and - most frighteningly- the transmission slipped from drive to neutral IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HIGHWAY. I returned the car to him that day and now the auto shop gave him another bill for $1,200 - this is on top of another $1,500 spent earlier this year. My parents are retired but they're doing ok, making smart investments and saving accordingly, so money's not the issue here.

My point is my dad is wasting money on a car that's doomed to fall apart and I'm scared that they're both going to get hurt in this thing. He's very stubborn and would rather throw money into repairs vs just buying a decent used car - what can I do to convince him to just buy a car??

I would honestly just buy him a car but me and my wife just bought a house and we don't have much spare cash right now. I would gladly pick up the car payments in the future, but I'm don't want to make promises to him based on speculation on my part (with the economy the way it is).

Oh, one other issue: when talking to him about replacing the car he keeps mentioning going back to India and.. gulp.. dieing ... "I won't need a car when I go back to india.. Why buy a car when I'll be dead in 5 years?" P.S His mom just died 2 years ago, they have excellent genetics actually, and he's still sharp as a tick and has never gotten into even a fender bender.. And he's talked about going back to india for 20 years, but the reality is that his family is here now.

Suggestions?

Cliffs
1. Dad is in his 70s and refuses to let go of his 1994 minivan
2. I borrowed the car and found dozens of scary mechanical issues during routine driving - the car is not safe
3. Dad is so stubborn he'd rather pay nearly $3,000 so far this year in repairs then get a new (used) car
4. I am not concerned about style *AT ALL*, my concern is for the safety of my mom and dad, since their car feels like a death trap
5. They can afford a car
6. Whenever I mention trading in his car he mentions eventually going to indian and not needing a car, but he's had informal plans to go to india for decades now so I don't see that happening
7. I would help with the payments when the economy picks up but don't want to promise him anything since I don't know what the future holds

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My mom is terrified of the old car as well and says that she'd totally support replacing it, but is tired of trying to convince my dad. She even says that she has a pre-approved loan from her credit union for 1% interest and would buy a car today if it was her decision.
 

Insomniator

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Just do something to ruin the old car, its not worth anything anyway. Drain the oil, drive around the block once or twice (probably once), park in driveway. New car.
 

Blieb

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1) Borrow it.
2) Crash it into something (shouldn't take much to total it). Plan b: sledgehammer.
3) Give him KBB for the damage
4) Give him a lift in your car to the dealership for a new one.
5) Profit?


 

xSauronx

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set it on fire when hes asleep, he will blame it on "those damn kids" and have to get a new car
 

swbsam

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Originally posted by: Blieb

1) Borrow it.
2) Crash it into something (shouldn't take much to total it). Plan b: sledgehammer.
3) Give him KBB for the damage
4) Give him a lift in your car to the dealership for a new one.
5) Profit?

I actually considered driving it into a wall but .. yeah. that's not right!
 

TechBoyJK

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find a way to take it away from him.

borrow it

tell him he's not getting it back, that you'll pick him up and take him up to the dealer of his choice, and you will use the pre-approved loan.

if you care enough, make a big enough fuss to get it done.
 

swbsam

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
find a way to take it away from him.

borrow it

tell him he's not getting it back, that you'll pick him up and take him up to the dealer of his choice, and you will use the pre-approved loan.

if you care enough, make a big enough fuss to get it done.

Do you feel that's justified or am i being a brat?
 

NoCreativity

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Can your mom just go buy a car? If she thinks it's dangerous she should refuse to ride in it. Maybe that would force his decision.
 

swbsam

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Originally posted by: NoCreativity
Can your mom just go buy a car? If she thinks it's dangerous she should refuse to ride in it. Maybe that would force his decision.

My mom doesn't know how to drive, unfortunately

Also, my sister refuses to let her kids ride in it for the past 6 years now, that hasn't swayed him
 

hiromizu

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My bet is that the OP can't afford to get that crashed Z4 fixed and doesn't want to drive his father's car.
 

swbsam

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Originally posted by: hiromizu
My bet is that the OP can't afford to get that crashed Z4 fixed and doesn't want to drive his father's car.

What the fuck are you talking about? I drive a hatchback that I bought due to its fuel efficiency and low cost of insurance...It's surely the blandest car in the country, but I think of cars as a way to get from point a to b, and nothing more. You have no idea what you're talking about, so why assume things?
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: hiromizu
My bet is that the OP can't afford to get that crashed Z4 fixed and doesn't want to drive his father's car.

You talking about me? I crashed my z4 recently. Stupid Deer.

I have insurance. Driving a rental, car is at shop, we are waiting on parts to be delivered.

Nothing to see here, move along.
 

Vette73

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Check to see what the rated gas milage is. It may fall into the clunker bill and get $3500 to $4500 as a trade.

That plus what deals GM, Ford, etc... are giving would go very far.
 

nakedfrog

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What are the actual repairs that have been done this year? Was the $1,200 for a new/rebuilt transmission?
 

SonnyDaze

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Originally posted by: Insomniator
Just do something to ruin the old car, its not worth anything anyway. Drain the oil, drive around the block once or twice (probably once), park in driveway. New car.

:laugh:

Originally posted by: Chunkee
good luck..old people are stubborn!

GET OFF MY LAWN!!! And leave my Studebaker alone!!
 

NoCreativity

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Check to see what the rated gas milage is. It may fall into the clunker bill and get $3500 to $4500 as a trade.

That plus what deals GM, Ford, etc... are giving would go very far.

Good idea. The fwd gets 17 combined and the awd gets 16 so it should qualify.

Ratings
 

swbsam

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Check to see what the rated gas milage is. It may fall into the clunker bill and get $3500 to $4500 as a trade.

That plus what deals GM, Ford, etc... are giving would go very far.

Good idea! i'll look into that, I think it gets 17mpg or so theoretical.. It actually gets closer to 10.. ugh
 

swbsam

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
What are the actual repairs that have been done this year? Was the $1,200 for a new/rebuilt transmission?

Transmission was rebuilt, plus the computer that controls the transmission was fixed (have no idea what that means). His battery/alternator were worked on as well plus his shocks seem to go out on him all the time.. I'm sure other things too, he doesn't tell me everything but my mom said that they're in the shop all the time.
 

DougK62

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If it will only take $3000 to make it safe and reliable again and that's what your dad wants then I would do that.

 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: DougK62
If it will only take $3000 to make it safe and reliable again and that's what your dad wants then I would do that.

I think the $3000 is what they have spent just to keep it going, not make it safe.
 

evident

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do what someone else said, drain the oil, drive it around the block. that should make the engine die and the cost of repairing prohibitive. drain radiator fluid too. why not?
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: swbsam
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
What are the actual repairs that have been done this year? Was the $1,200 for a new/rebuilt transmission?

Transmission was rebuilt, plus the computer that controls the transmission was fixed (have no idea what that means). His battery/alternator were worked on as well plus his shocks seem to go out on him all the time.. I'm sure other things too, he doesn't tell me everything but my mom said that they're in the shop all the time.

Tell him to quit jumping the car off ramps! :p
I'm with DougK62 on this one, if he wants to keep it and can handle the repairs, I'd just let him do what he wants.
 

vshah

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: DougK62
If it will only take $3000 to make it safe and reliable again and that's what your dad wants then I would do that.

I think the $3000 is what they have spent just to keep it going, not make it safe.

i imagine its going to be pretty tough to get a 1994 town and country to be safe by today's standards