Help me choose a 52"+ LCD

[Kanalua]

Really the only difference between the 750 and the 850 is the width. Some say the 850 doesn't handle blacks as well as the 750, but I don't see the difference. There was a problem on early 750 with a halo-effect on the outer rim of the casing on the tv...but that issue was done away with when Samsung put new TOC casings on the 850 and 750.

The 950 is an amazing TV. with the LED backlighting, the TV will break before the bulbs (LEDs) do. But you do pay a premium for it.

Like others have said, if you don't need an Ethernet connection you can go for the 630, still a great TV.

Another great thing about these Samsung LCDs is that there is a heavy following on AVS forums and many people there willing to help you setup and even calibrate your tv settings for the ultimate viewing experience...

 

[SlowSpyder]

Well, I bought a Samsung LN52A750. I am a bit concerned about the size, it's big but certainly not overly big, especially not for ~15' away.

I wouldn't mind a projector, but there is absolutely no way I'd convince the wife to go for that.

So, it's a bit smaller then I really wanted, but it's in our budget. It's all a comprimise, I don't have an unlimited budget.

Best Buy wanted $2700 for the TV, I brought some online print outs from various e-tailers, most were sub $2k for it (including shipping). They wouldn't/couldn't match that price, but I did get it for $2280 and 10% off an upconverting DVD player and new piano-black TV stand. So, I hardly got the deal of the century, but we got the TV, a pretty nice to me TV stand, and a Toshiba 1080P upconverting DVD w/HDMI for about $2700 out the door. They also included a $100 Geek Squad set up service that I won't use I'm sure. I couldn't convince the wife that we needed a PS3 or Blu Ray DVD player right now. But I did get a win a minor battler and was able to convince her that we needed a new center channel speaker, so we got this Streem Audio center. I'm tired of using one of my rear surronds from my Logitech Z5500's as a center channel. I really want to get this entire speaker set up. But I'll just piece it together from here if I really like the center speaker.

So, besides the speakers and a Blu Ray player the only thing we *really* need is a new receiver. My current one does not have HDMI capability. So, it won't be right away, but probably in a few months I'll be posting again looking for some opinions on a 5.1 receiver... hopefully to push my new speakers.

Unfortunately the Best Buy we bought from didn't have the TV in stock, so we'll pick it up later this week. But, we get the standard 30 days to try it out. So, if I do feel it's too small then we'll worry about that once we see it in home.

Also, we went to a different Best Buy then we had looked prviously, this one had more DLP TV's. They had some Mitsubishi, Samsung, and if I remember right, Sony DLP TV's. I assume they were using the same feed as the LCD and plasma TV's, but I didn't verify that. But, in my opinion, there just wasn't any comparrison in the picture quality. Even though we could have gotten more physical display size, the DLP just looked more grainy, just less sharp in general. Many of the TV's were labeled as the 6 color processor, 120hz, and they just didn't look good to me. I certainly don't want to start a DLP vs. LCD war, but in my opinion (very subjective obviously) the DLP just can't compare to the LCD sets from what I saw. So, despite going from a potential 65" DLP to a 52" LCD, all the display area lost, I think I'll be much happier with the quality of the picture.

Thank you to everyone for their opinions, I'll let you guys know how I like the TV and get a picture or two this weekend if you guys care. Thanks again.

*edit - One more thing, we stopped in the Circuit City directly next to the Best Buy, they had the 850 for $2250. Unfortunately the last one they had was the display unit. Oh well, the thickness means nothing to me, but thought it would have been a pretty good deal at that price.

 

[Greg04]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Well, I bought a Samsung LN52A750. I am a bit concerned about the size, it's big but certainly not overly big, especially not for ~15' away.

I wouldn't mind a projector, but there is absolutely no way I'd convince the wife to go for that.

So, it's a bit smaller then I really wanted, but it's in our budget. It's all a comprimise, I don't have an unlimited budget.

Best Buy wanted $2700 for the TV, I brought some online print outs from various e-tailers, most were sub $2k for it (including shipping). They wouldn't/couldn't match that price, but I did get it for $2280 and 10% off an upconverting DVD player and new piano-black TV stand. So, I hardly got the deal of the century, but we got the TV, a pretty nice to me TV stand, and a Toshiba 1080P upconverting DVD w/HDMI for about $2700 out the door. They also included a $100 Geek Squad set up service that I won't use I'm sure. I couldn't convince the wife that we needed a PS3 or Blu Ray DVD player right now. But I did get a win a minor battler and was able to convince her that we needed a new center channel speaker, so we got this Streem Audio center. I'm tired of using one of my rear surronds from my Logitech Z5500's as a center channel. I really want to get this entire speaker set up. But I'll just piece it together from here if I really like the center speaker.

So, besides the speakers and a Blu Ray player the only thing we *really* need is a new receiver. My current one does not have HDMI capability. So, it won't be right away, but probably in a few months I'll be posting again looking for some opinions on a 5.1 receiver... hopefully to push my new speakers.

Unfortunately the Best Buy we bought from didn't have the TV in stock, so we'll pick it up later this week. But, we get the standard 30 days to try it out. So, if I do feel it's too small then we'll worry about that once we see it in home.

Also, we went to a different Best Buy then we had looked prviously, this one had more DLP TV's. They had some Mitsubishi, Samsung, and if I remember right, Sony DLP TV's. I assume they were using the same feed as the LCD and plasma TV's, but I didn't verify that. But, in my opinion, there just wasn't any comparrison in the picture quality. Even though we could have gotten more physical display size, the DLP just looked more grainy, just less sharp in general. Many of the TV's were labeled as the 6 color processor, 120hz, and they just didn't look good to me. I certainly don't want to start a DLP vs. LCD war, but in my opinion (very subjective obviously) the DLP just can't compare to the LCD sets from what I saw. So, despite going from a potential 65" DLP to a 52" LCD, all the display area lost, I think I'll be much happier with the quality of the picture.

Thank you to everyone for their opinions, I'll let you guys know how I like the TV and get a picture or two this weekend if you guys care. Thanks again.

*edit - One more thing, we stopped in the Circuit City directly next to the Best Buy, they had the 850 for $2250. Unfortunately the last one they had was the display unit. Oh well, the thickness means nothing to me, but thought it would have been a pretty good deal at that price.

Congrats on your buy!

Chuckle: the ebay sales price is $5 more shipped than the manufacturer's website.

These speakers seem to have a little white van DNA, are they a known brand? I haven't followed the standalone speaker scene too closely lately.

 

[SlowSpyder]

The reviews are good, but I'm not too worried about it... I'll try the center out and see how I like it. I've only seen them on Ebay, but I've seen them for sale on Ebay for a while and figured they'd be worth a gamble. It's only the center speaker, so we'll see how I like that and go from there.

*edit - Looking over some of the 'reviews' I have to wonder if some of them are planted. You very well could be right. I see a comment or two that I think are legit, and some that seem typical of planted reviews. I guess I'll consider myself lucky that I only bought the center until I try it out. Well, fingers crossed.

 

[Superself]

I love my Samsung LN52A650! Its one thing I truly look forward to when I get home. The picture quality is outstanding. I use the built in sports preset most of the time.
If you are a tweaker, you may want to browse the avsforum for specs to nail down the perfect picture.
They even have a remote code to access the service menu...although I believe it may void your warranty, so tread carefully.

 

[gar655]

I've yet to see ANY LCD that is close to even the cheapest Panasonic plasma for overall PQ. This after researching for a 40-42" set for our bedroom. Totally disappointed in all the LCDs regardless of price.

LCDs have a long way to go before I'll consider one. Hopefully you won't visit anyone that has a Panny 58" plasma, your buyer's remorse will be quite substantial.

Plasma rules!

 

[Crucial]

Originally posted by: gar655
I've yet to see ANY LCD that is close to even the cheapest Panasonic plasma for overall PQ. This after researching for a 40-42" set for our bedroom. Totally disappointed in all the LCDs regardless of price.

LCDs have a long way to go before I'll consider one. Hopefully you won't visit anyone that has a Panny 58" plasma, your buyer's remorse will be quite substantial.

Plasma rules!

I used to think like this until I saw the latest Samsung sets.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Originally posted by: gar655
I've yet to see ANY LCD that is close to even the cheapest Panasonic plasma for overall PQ. This after researching for a 40-42" set for our bedroom. Totally disappointed in all the LCDs regardless of price.

LCDs have a long way to go before I'll consider one. Hopefully you won't visit anyone that has a Panny 58" plasma, your buyer's remorse will be quite substantial.

Plasma rules!

Best Buy had the Panasonic plasmas on the wall with the LCD's and other brand plasmas. I have no regrets in my decision, I looked at all of the TV's. I felt the Samsung had at least as good of a picture if not sharper then any of the plasmas I saw, including the Panasonics. What looks better to one person may not look better to the next, this is a very subjective thing.

The first thing I plan on doing with this TV when we get it tomorrow is enjoying some Radeon 4870 gaming via HDMI. I'm sure plasma has improved, but from what I hear it still has the very real possiblity of suffering from image burn-in on the display. Considering the amount of gaming I'm going to be doing I think LCD would have been the better choice for me even if I thought the plasma had an edge in picture quality. But as I already said, I looked at the plasmas, they were right there for comparrison. I'm happy with the choice I made based on what I saw.

 

[kalrith]

Edit: Just disregard my post. That's what I get for posting without reading the whole thread. Congrats on the new TV purchase!

 

[SlowSpyder]

Yea, I know it'll be a bit small, but the couch that is ~15' away isn't the only seat in the room, it's just the one that'll be the furthest away. As I said, I looked at DLP's and just didn't care for the picture quality as much as the LCD I looked at. Considering our budget I made the choice that I think will be right for us, seeing as the budget isn't unlimited I had to make some decisions and some comprimises. I chose what I considered better picture quality over the DLP but sacrificed screen size for that picture quality. I called Best Buy, the TV is there, going to pick it up. I'll post a few pictures when I get it set up.

 

[rivethead]

"Best Buy had the Panasonic plasmas on the wall with the LCD's and other brand plasmas. I have no regrets in my decision, I looked at all of the TV's. I felt the Samsung had at least as good of a picture if not sharper then any of the plasmas I saw, including the Panasonics. What looks better to one person may not look better to the next, this is a very subjective thing. "


That's a really good answer and one I completely agree with. I haven't bought the Samsung yet, but I hope to when (if?) they go on sale just before March Madness begins. I'm looking at the LN52A650.

I found the picture quality was a bit sharper on the LCD. In addition, the Panny plasmas run so dang hot and suck a lot of juice. Since we run the AC 10 months a year here in Austin, TX, the last thing I want in my room is another heat source (and one that's using a lot of power at that).

 

[de8212]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Yea, I know it'll be a bit small, but the couch that is ~15' away isn't the only seat in the room, it's just the one that'll be the furthest away. As I said, I looked at DLP's and just didn't care for the picture quality as much as the LCD I looked at. Considering our budget I made the choice that I think will be right for us, seeing as the budget isn't unlimited I had to make some decisions and some comprimises. I chose what I considered better picture quality over the DLP but sacrificed screen size for that picture quality. I called Best Buy, the TV is there, going to pick it up. I'll post a few pictures when I get it set up.

Hope all goes well.

I tried to purchase a 52" 650 at BB a little more than 3 weeks ago. I was getting a deal almost as good as Amazon so I didn't mind paying a few $ more to get locally. I paid for it and they had to order it. When the day came that it was supposed to be delivered they told me the order had been canceled. :| Seems as though they were out of them at their warehouse. They offered to give me a 750 for the same price but I declined. I asked them how much they would sell me an 850 for. They sold it to me for 2199. Picture is great. And to be honest, I sit back about 12 ft awaay and I really could have just gotten a 46". But I am still very happy with it.
You'll enjoy yours.

Oh, BTW I also upgraded receivers. Went with a Denon 1909 and it blows my old onkyo away. It has a calibration tool called Audyssey that run run and it sets speaker level/distances/etc. My old JBL speakers have never sounded so good.

Don't forget to post some pics.

 

[Pacfanweb]

but lager is not ruled out

I'll have one, too. You should never rule out lager. :beer:

Seriously consider a Samsung. Best LCD's out there, price is comparable.

I wouldn't be satisfied with a cheaper model, but people are different.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

but lager is not ruled out

I'll have one, too. You should never rule out lager. :beer:

Seriously consider a Samsung. Best LCD's out there, price is comparable.

I wouldn't be satisfied with a cheaper model, but people are different.

That's what I bought. Should have it set up today.

Originally posted by: rivethead
"Best Buy had the Panasonic plasmas on the wall with the LCD's and other brand plasmas. I have no regrets in my decision, I looked at all of the TV's. I felt the Samsung had at least as good of a picture if not sharper then any of the plasmas I saw, including the Panasonics. What looks better to one person may not look better to the next, this is a very subjective thing. "


That's a really good answer and one I completely agree with. I haven't bought the Samsung yet, but I hope to when (if?) they go on sale just before March Madness begins. I'm looking at the LN52A650.

I found the picture quality was a bit sharper on the LCD. In addition, the Panny plasmas run so dang hot and suck a lot of juice. Since we run the AC 10 months a year here in Austin, TX, the last thing I want in my room is another heat source (and one that's using a lot of power at that).

Yea, I didn't even consider the power/heat, but you are right. We will have the TV on very often, so less power is good. I don't know how much juice this TV sucks compared to a plasma, but I assume either would be an improvement over the current 60" rear projection. I don't know what the light source is for that (or how it's lasted so long... ~9 years since I bought it now without any light source issues) but I'm sure it's not as efficient as what is out there today. For me the the big issue was image burn-in. I read a lot about the technologies that exist today that help reduce the chances of that happening to a plasma, but the bottom line is it still and does happen. It's just not something I was willing to take a risk of happening. And I did not like the idea of having to interupt my gaming every hour or so to change the channel or put on snow/static to help make sure that the image doesn't burn in. Plasma I'm sure can be a great choice for some, but obviously there is not perfect TV for every scenario. So, given our budget and what I wanted it to do, I think the Samsung will do nicely.

 

[gar655]

Originally posted by: Crucial

Originally posted by: gar655
I've yet to see ANY LCD that is close to even the cheapest Panasonic plasma for overall PQ. This after researching for a 40-42" set for our bedroom. Totally disappointed in all the LCDs regardless of price.

LCDs have a long way to go before I'll consider one. Hopefully you won't visit anyone that has a Panny 58" plasma, your buyer's remorse will be quite substantial.

Plasma rules!

I used to think like this until I saw the latest Samsung sets.

Well, I just helped my uncle set up his new Samsung LN40A550. He has Directv HD, same as I do.

My Panasonic 50" 720P blows his Samsung out of the water big time. The Samsung suffers from a LOT of motion blur, it's not any sharper at 1080i (directv HD source) than my set at 720P.

It has all the drawbacks of an LCD vs Plasma- motion blur, contrast is harsher, color while good is not as good. Maybe with Blu-ray I would notice some improvement in sharpness if I sat close enough.

After seeing how a $900 40" 1080P LCD performs, I'll be buying the new Panasonic 42" 720P plasma for our bedroom set. WAY better PQ for the money.

As for the OP, if gaming is going to be that much of his time using the set, then I can see the LCD being the better choice. But if you're buying a set mainly to watch TV/movies then Plasma is still clearly the better choice.

Oh, and I game on my set, Xbox360 and Wii and have game for several hours at a time and have had no IR, and no noticeable motion blur or streaking in any games I've played so far.

 

[rivethead]

Well, I just helped my uncle set up his new Samsung LN40A550.

The 550 series doesn't have 120hz or Auto Motion like the 650 and above series do. From everything I've read and seen, that makes a huge difference in motion blur.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Originally posted by: gar655

Originally posted by: Crucial

Originally posted by: gar655
I've yet to see ANY LCD that is close to even the cheapest Panasonic plasma for overall PQ. This after researching for a 40-42" set for our bedroom. Totally disappointed in all the LCDs regardless of price.

LCDs have a long way to go before I'll consider one. Hopefully you won't visit anyone that has a Panny 58" plasma, your buyer's remorse will be quite substantial.

Plasma rules!

I used to think like this until I saw the latest Samsung sets.

Well, I just helped my uncle set up his new Samsung LN40A550. He has Directv HD, same as I do.

My Panasonic 50" 720P blows his Samsung out of the water big time. The Samsung suffers from a LOT of motion blur, it's not any sharper at 1080i (directv HD source) than my set at 720P.

It has all the drawbacks of an LCD vs Plasma- motion blur, contrast is harsher, color while good is not as good. Maybe with Blu-ray I would notice some improvement in sharpness if I sat close enough.

After seeing how a $900 40" 1080P LCD performs, I'll be buying the new Panasonic 42" 720P plasma for our bedroom set. WAY better PQ for the money.

As for the OP, if gaming is going to be that much of his time using the set, then I can see the LCD being the better choice. But if you're buying a set mainly to watch TV/movies then Plasma is still clearly the better choice.

Oh, and I game on my set, Xbox360 and Wii and have game for several hours at a time and have had no IR, and no noticeable motion blur or streaking in any games I've played so far.

You keep stating your opinion as if it's fact. I saw Panasonic and Pioneer plasma TV's at Best Buy with the Samsung LCD I bought. From a picture quality stand point I think think the 750 is superior. This is from me seeing both in action displaying the same thing from the same source.

 

[kalrith]

Misconceptions are abounding in this thread. Things have changed a lot in the past few years. Plasmas have improved greatly in the area of burn-in and you do not have "to interupt my gaming every hour or so to change the channel or put on snow/static to help make sure that the image doesn't burn in." Burn-in isn't completely gone, but it's getting to where you almost have to try to cause burn-in in order to achieve this. If you turn off the pixel shift and leave a game paused for a couple weeks, then you'll get your burn-in. My nephews have totally abused their 6-year-old plasma, leaving games paused for hours at a time, and they have 0 burn-in. That's with pixel shifting enable. Motion blur has improved greatly on LCDs, but it also isn't 100% as good as the motion on plasmas.

Going to Best Buy and choosing the best-looking TV in the store will almost never result in the best-looking TV in your livingroom. The TVs are fed a crap signal, are in a blazingly bright setting, and are in torch mode (high brightness and contrast). Studies have shown that when looking at several different TVs side by side people conclude that the brightest TV (i.e. an LCD) is the best-looking picture. Put that torch in your livingroom, and you'll be given muddy grays instead of blacks, innacurate colors, and horrible contrast ratio, not to mention a good deal of eye strain.

I'm not saying that you should buy a plasma or an LCD. There are reasons to buy either one, but most of the reasons given in this thread are outdated by 5-10 years.

 

[gar655]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder


You keep stating your opinion as if it's fact. I saw Panasonic and Pioneer plasma TV's at Best Buy with the Samsung LCD I bought. From a picture quality stand point I think think the 750 is superior. This is from me seeing both in action displaying the same thing from the same source.

Well it's kind of you like stating that the PQ of the Samsung LCD you bought is better than the Pioneer and Panasonic plasmas based on how they looked in a store, which BTW are known to make the sets they want to sell look better than the others. BB is famous for these shennanagins.

How do you know it was the same source? Were the sets free standing on the floor getting a feed straght from a BD?

In actuality my statement based on how the sets look in the home with the exact same source is much more accurate. If you were to put a Panny plasma in your room next to your Samsung you'd be returning the Samsung- IF TV/movie watching were a priority. For gaming it doesn't make much difference.

The LCD you bought is I guess Samsung's highend, but I too have looked at the different sets "in a store" and am not impressed with LCD no matter the price.

If you want to be a factual as you can then check out the "professional" reviews. Plasma still rules the roost for PQ.

I'm glad you like the set. That's what's most important. I for one know that based on the LCDs in my size and price range would not be.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I never said it's fact that the the TV I bought has a better quality picture. I've said time and time again that I feel this is subjective and that *I* liked what I saw better.

I also did my research on plasma before I ruled it out. As I said earlier, they have made great strides in this area, but burn-in is still a possibility even though things are far better now then in the past. Even though it's a much smaller chance, I still choose not to take it. That doesn't make LCD better, it just makes it my choice. Again, I think I've pointed out that things are subjective and that what works for my scenario doesn't make it the better choice for the next scenario.

I had the Best Buy guy check the birghtness. It was set to 7. Hardly torch mode. I'm not saying they don't crank it (as we find 7 a bit on the bright side in fact for watching at night now that we have it set up) but certainly not cranked up just for the sake of being cranked up either.

I did not ask if they were all the same source, but every TV on the wall with the exception of very few were displaying the exact same thing.

Anyway, it's set up now and I'm happy with it. It's certainly less display area than what we had before, but we don't feel it's small either. With the brightness at 6 I think the blacks look very good by any standard. I'm actually quite suprised at how good standard DVD's look through the up-converting DVD player. My HDMI cables have not yet arrived, but using component cables it looks absolutely great. Also, compared to our old TV the crispness of text is amazing. Before things were almost a bit blurry. Even with DirecTv's standard non-HD transmission things look great. So all in all no complaints.

 

[bigdog1218]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder

Originally posted by: gar655

Originally posted by: Crucial

Originally posted by: gar655
I've yet to see ANY LCD that is close to even the cheapest Panasonic plasma for overall PQ. This after researching for a 40-42" set for our bedroom. Totally disappointed in all the LCDs regardless of price.

LCDs have a long way to go before I'll consider one. Hopefully you won't visit anyone that has a Panny 58" plasma, your buyer's remorse will be quite substantial.

Plasma rules!

I used to think like this until I saw the latest Samsung sets.

Well, I just helped my uncle set up his new Samsung LN40A550. He has Directv HD, same as I do.

My Panasonic 50" 720P blows his Samsung out of the water big time. The Samsung suffers from a LOT of motion blur, it's not any sharper at 1080i (directv HD source) than my set at 720P.

It has all the drawbacks of an LCD vs Plasma- motion blur, contrast is harsher, color while good is not as good. Maybe with Blu-ray I would notice some improvement in sharpness if I sat close enough.

After seeing how a $900 40" 1080P LCD performs, I'll be buying the new Panasonic 42" 720P plasma for our bedroom set. WAY better PQ for the money.

As for the OP, if gaming is going to be that much of his time using the set, then I can see the LCD being the better choice. But if you're buying a set mainly to watch TV/movies then Plasma is still clearly the better choice.

Oh, and I game on my set, Xbox360 and Wii and have game for several hours at a time and have had no IR, and no noticeable motion blur or streaking in any games I've played so far.

You keep stating your opinion as if it's fact. I saw Panasonic and Pioneer plasma TV's at Best Buy with the Samsung LCD I bought. From a picture quality stand point I think think the 750 is superior. This is from me seeing both in action displaying the same thing from the same source.

This is why LCD's outsell plasmas. Because in the store they're bright and shiny and that's what attracts buyers. I think this will start to change with Panny's new tech coming out, supposed to really increase the brightness of plasmas.

If you get another TV in the future I wouldn't worry about burn in on plasmas. You have to abuse the TV for it to happen. You hear people say it, but you really get used to the size of these tv's. You'll be looking for a 60" in no time. Enjoy the tv.

 

[kara7]

It has been already a month I'm looking for TV for my new house. I can't concentrate myself and don't know which one is better for me at the moment: LCD or DLP. I've been told that DLP has more pluses than LCD, however I'll stop at LCD.
Is it a correct solution? Thanks!

 

[SlowSpyder]

A touch of perfect timing occurred as well. My new center arrived just as I was setting up, I connected everything up and am quite pleased. I took some pictures of it, I haven't beaten on it yet, but it sounds very nice so far. Things are much louder and clearer now.

 

[SlowSpyder]

http://www.stevesgrandehead.com/TV/

Just a few quick pics I took as I set things up yesterday.

The first 3 pics are of the Streem Audio center speaker. I can't get over how heavy that thing is. It's like a bowling ball. It seems very solid and sounds plenty decent for a center. I still haven't really beat on it yet to see how it performs, but it is a nice improvement over the speaker I was using prior, a satellite from my Logitech Z5500 computer surrond speakers. While I love the Logitechs for what they are, the speakers are just single 3" drivers. They sound better then you'd think for a single driver, but they don't sound as good as a decent 2-way or 3-way speaker. So, the Streem speaker so far in my limited listening has been a nice improvement.

The rest of the pictures are of the TV and stand during set up and with an image on screen. My old TV is off to the side so you can see a size comparrison. Also, the last picture is from the back couch so you can get a feel about how it looks from the furthest seat in the room. I don't think it's too small, but at the same time I don't think I'd want to go smaller. A 58" would be an improvement I'm sure, but again, I don't feel it's too small for the distance.

The wife is excited because now we can use the wall behind the TV. We'll put up a picture or a clock or something above the TV eventually, so it won't look so bare. The old TV took up the entire wall pretty much with the receiver and DVD player on top of it.

The room is kind of a mess in the pics as I was in the middle of setting things up. Also, I didn't have time to resize the pics, so they are ~2MB each/5MP.