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Help Me Buld A Kickass Audio Editing Opteron 275 Rig ;p

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LandDweller

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I have 2,000 dollars cash now, and i do intense audio editing.

I plan on purchasing the system with one dual core 275 cpu for 2000 and add another later.

i need intense ram and a stable mobo.

i really dont want to overclock, since it has enough speed i need.

any help is appreciated..i havent looked for cpu parts since i bought my northwood 1.6a back in 2300 bc ;p
 
I just ran a quote through www.monarchcomputer.com and the total cost came to 4600$. Of course, that's assuming you're going for a good system there.
My specs:

Tyan K8WE = 565$
AMD Opteron 275 = 1324$
Lian Li v2000 Plus = 229$
Enermax Noisetaker 600W w/ SLI support = 155$
Zalman 7000B-Cu = 39$
Corsair TWINX2048RE-3200 = 339$
BenQ DW1625 DVD±RW Dual Layer w/LightScribe = 99$
ATI (Sapphire) Radeon X800 XL 256 MB DDR3/PCI-E/TV-Out/DVI (OEM) = 290$
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 4 Pro (Retail Box) = 271$
Seagate (ST3400832AS) 400 GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA = 4 @ 319$ = 1276$ (Going for RAID 5)

Total = 4587$

~Of course you could skimp out on the mobo and the hard drives.
I didn't know if you needed a sound card or not, so I threw one in there.
You could also skimp on the memory.

-=== I believe that sound editing programs convert the audio data into visual data to let the video card calculate it. If I'm wrong, please tell me. Thus the good video card.
 
Yeah, and once you add the second CPU your up around $6000. And I think 4 CPU's is serious overkill for a audio editing machine.

Wait a month or so until X2 dualcore comes out. Get a 4400+ at $581 and overclock it to 2.6-2.7ghz, on a much cheaper motherboard, unbuffered ram (faster and cheaper). That should be all you would ever need, and would fit your $2000 budget
 
AMD Opteron 275 = 1324$

There's no way to build a system if the CPU eats up that much and considering that a motherboard takes out 400-600$, you've got nothing left.
 
Originally posted by: Kensai

-=== I believe that sound editing programs convert the audio data into visual data to let the video card calculate it. If I'm wrong, please tell me. Thus the good video card.
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Nope 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: Kensai

-=== I believe that sound editing programs convert the audio data into visual data to let the video card calculate it. If I'm wrong, please tell me. Thus the good video card.
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Nope 🙂
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Theres a reason its called Sound card and Video Card....
 
thanks for all your help, but i beleive its not certainly not overkill.

i dont just edit audio, i use intensive native dsp plugins to create my music with about 100 tracks running at once with a few VSTs *google it& running at a time.
 
Originally posted by: LandDweller
thanks for all your help, but i beleive its not certainly not overkill.

i dont just edit audio, i use intensive native dsp plugins to create my music with about 100 tracks running at once with a few VSTs *google it& running at a time.
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i still say a dual operton is good enough...keep saving and wait till DC opertons come out and get a good killer 4000$ dollar rig that'll be able to match any rig you can buy now for 6000$
 
I don't think you'll need that much power, but whatever.

Dual Opteron 244's should be sufficient, but really an A64-4000 caliber CPU might be a better bet, especially if you wait for the dual core ones.
 
what kind of music are you doing that requires 100 tracks... all with VST and other DSP effects? unless its some huge orchestra you are recording...

there are workarounds so that you don't need to be processing 100 tracks in real time at once. freeze 90 of them and work on 10 at a time. Use some UAD-1 DSP cards and let that power be supplied by the hardware insted of all on your cpu. I can get 50+ tracks going on mine with effects on many of them. i have an amd 3200+
 
Originally posted by: minofifa
what kind of music are you doing that requires 100 tracks... all with VST and other DSP effects? unless its some huge orchestra you are recording...

there are workarounds so that you don't need to be processing 100 tracks in real time at once. freeze 90 of them and work on 10 at a time. Use some UAD-1 DSP cards and let that power be supplied by the hardware insted of all on your cpu. I can get 50+ tracks going on mine with effects on many of them. i have an amd 3200+
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i do progressive trance and independent movie scoring
 
Ok clarify "Audio Editing" if your talking in means of a DAW system then I can help, 10+ years of being a dj and about 4 under my belt in d&b/breakbeat production(still think I suck, but I think thats the problem with all artist 🙂) if you just want a fast computer to play mp3's then well opteron is an overkill 🙂

If you want a good card then look into the ECHO audio cards, I have had a mia in my pc DAW running logic for years now and its held up extremley well and allows very low latency and buffer settings. Just make sure you get a 24/96 the Delta and audiophile cards are considered the workhorse's in the pc world of production.

What about studio monitors, not necessarily pc related but the absolute most important aspect of audio production

More than processor speed you need to make sure and look into the best hard drives you can get, sata is prefered, and make sure and setup one for your samples and one for your production/bouncing(rendering) of the audio for the cleanest sound.

Sound isolation in a DAW is a must, try to limit your internals to as little as possible its not the physical sound they produce that causes alot of the hissing and humming you typically hear when producing its the electronic interference that is not isolated inside.

Cooling, when rendering an audio tracke with 10 audio tracks, 19 instruments and 20+ vst's running your pc gets very hot and you will start to get crackling and stuttering really quick

What sequencer are you going to be using?

SB Live is not sufficiant for any type of audio productions!
 
100 tracks? Wow.

Umm...I don't know what to say. It certainly SEEMS overkill, but I've never dreamed of having 100 DSP and VST intensive tracks running @ one time. So I can't really comment on that...I'm an recording musician...but I don't do any of that trance/electronica/midi crap...so this is far beyond my realm of expertise.

If you want to spen $2k on this and if you think this will get the job done then go for it. I don't know if you need to go as far as getting opertons, but a lot of ram is certainly a must.
 
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
100 tracks? Wow.
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Heee I just saw that, yea thats a bit of an overdone job of splitting up your instruments....but even if you did get into some intense created mood where you had that many you would deffinatly want to freeze some of those so your not wasting as much overhead...
 
Originally posted by: blown20v
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
100 tracks? Wow.
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Heee I just saw that, yea thats a bit of an overdone job of splitting up your instruments....but even if you did get into some intense created mood where you had that many you would deffinatly want to freeze some of those so your not wasting as much overhead...
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I would agree. I used an Athlon XP 1500+ with 512mb of Ram for 20-30 tracks with DSP plug-ins and it ran great. I think homie has a strong desire to burn a whole in his trousers.

Honestly, for $2,000 I would spend $1,000 on the computer AND monitor, and the next thousand on a good mic-pre, mic, and outboard compressor. But that's just me...if you're doing all electronic stuff then it's a different story.
 
Originally posted by: Yanagi
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: Kensai

-=== I believe that sound editing programs convert the audio data into visual data to let the video card calculate it. If I'm wrong, please tell me. Thus the good video card.
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Nope 🙂
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Theres a reason its called Sound card and Video Card....
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Wow... misinformation abounds.

Yes, you can use a video card for audio effects processing. (cf. http://www.nforcershq.com/article1853.html ), but I'm not exactly sure how practical it is.

Also, getting an Opteron for personal use doesn't seem very cost-effective. I know you like the idea of popping in another CPU down the line, but it's just not a realistic solution. If you have $2000 to blow, get an Athlon 64 rig, or maybe a Mac setup. Some say ProTools is the best audio software on the market.
 
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