Help in chosing a different case.

SinfulWeeper

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I am too the point of saying screw it with Antec. I have their KS282+ case and it itself is loud.

Here is what my system consists of that has moving parts.

Hitachi GD7000 DVD drive (it gunna go. The thing was loud since day one.)
HP9150i CD-RW Its gunna go... for slow recording times. Otherwise it is quiet.
IBM 60GXP 40GB
2 Panalflo L1A's. One intake and the other out the exhaust of the PSU.

I noticed a drop in noise by taking off the fan of my GF2 Ultra... but I now have to underclock it.
I unplugged the fan from the Northbridge of my Soyo Dragon motherboard. I am not too happy about that as I do not know if my motherboard will suddenly die.

The end result is I have a computer that is still loud. I know for a fact that with the current setup, the problem has to be in the case because after unmounting the hard drive, the sound did not decrease any.
It has too many cut outs for future fans. Also the case vibrates enough that a woman can probably use it for relief.

I was thinking of getting the SX1000 series until it dawned on me I would still be getting Antecs low quality. Or is this just a plague of their solution series? I am thinking that because the performance series have even more fan holes so more of a chance for the noise to leak out.
So my second thought was another Supermicro 760A. That case is way too sweet. However Supermicro knows this and they want more than I want to fork out. Not to mention I do not have the room.

Anybody here have those Evercase's Newegg sells? I am not too concerned of the cooling abilities. I just need a case that does not vibrate too much or put out that much noise.
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WTF is Dell's secret? There fans are louder than mine yet their computers are nearly silent. I know they do not make their own cases. They are made for them. But who makes them? or what do the use to silence their setups?
 

SpaceRanger

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Here is a LINK to a mod that you might be able to do, in order to drop some of the noise coming out of your machine. Give it a look over and see if it'll help..

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AntecCSR

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Solution Series is targeted at a lower price point, thus a different market segment then the Performance Series cases.

Ks282 has only 2 fan mounts not including the power supply unless it's been modded. That doesn't sound like a lot of fan mounts.

I have a KS282 behind and about the only thing I can hear from it is the cpu fan (not nearly the specs of your system though).

What's causing the vibration? Also check the PSU the could be going. Beyond that I'd suggest using grommets on things (although maybe that won't help since you stated that for the HD you pulled it out and was still loud to you).

SX1000 though is not likely to be that much quieter since it has a larger front panel vent, and 4 fan mounts.

Sorry I'm not a lot of help on this, but we haven't gotten that many noise complaints for this series of cases that I've heard of.

AntecCSR
 

RagManX

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<< I would still be getting Antecs low quality >>


I had to read that again to make sure I saw it correctly. The Antec 1030 is the finest case I've ever had, and I've gone through well over a dozen in the past 3 years. Now if you want quiet, it is probably not the case for you. But for quality, it is one of the best produced, especially in the under $100 range. Even the 282 that I used to build my mother's computer is excellent, so I'm not sure what is wrong with yours.

Just wanted to make sure you didn't short sell Antec for incorrect reasons.

And if you want quiet, you'll either have to stick to well under 1 Gig processors and the associated quieter heatink/fans on them, or go water cooling. In my experience, it is very difficult to have a quiet system over 1 Gig without water.

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SinfulWeeper

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<< The Antec 1030 is the finest case I've ever had, and I've gone through well over a dozen in the past 3 years. Now if you want quiet, it is probably not the case for you. But for quality, it is one of the best produced, especially in the under $100 range. Even the 282 that I used to build my mother's computer is excellent, so I'm not sure what is wrong with yours. >>



Maybe I do have a defective one. However I doubt it.



<< And if you want quiet, you'll either have to stick to well under 1 Gig processors and the associated quieter heatink/fans on them, or go water cooling. In my experience, it is very difficult to have a quiet system over 1 Gig without water. >>



That statement cannot be true. I've seen Dell's, Gateway's, Micron's and various other OEM's use upto 1.9GHz PC's. They are virtually silent with standard air cooling.
Using standard air cooling is what I have for a mere 800MHz Duron and it still seems 4 times as loud as the Micron or Dell. Keep in mind the Micron is still louder than the Dell. But they are just so only slightly.

After taking a peek at a Micron though, just like my KS282. They have two fan mounts also. But they do not have the noise associated. The only explanation I can come up with is that Antec has lower building standards since they produce noise unlike the OEM's.

The reasoning is simple. I am using quieter fans as well as everything else (Except for my DVD-Rom). So why should my computer be louder? There is absolutely no reason I can find short of a lack of quality on Antec's part. I am not talking about design ease of use which you seem to be talking about. I am talking about the craftmanship to make sure everything does not move around or whatever the major OEM's do to stop the noise.
Upon opening a Micron PC... with the louder fans that they supply their computer is still quieter than mine... why I do not know.
I would not mind buying another Supermicro as it was clearly superior to the Antec or any other case I have used. Except I no longer have the room to house a full tower.

Try this all of you who say you have a quiet computer. Set yours next to any major OEM computer and find out exactly how quiet yours is. You will find out that there is a world of difference. CPU speed does not matter one iota as the Dell I compared to was over twice as fast. With CPU temps still well within specs of the CPU makers. By the way. I am running without a fan on the heatsink just like the OEM's do. I have a respecable 37C-39C under full load. I can only imagine the OEM's do better being they have faster/louder fans with more cfm.

SpaceRanger. Thanks for the link :). I have been thinking of doing something like like that. However that stuff is made of unobtainium. At least in my searchings... not even the radio companies seem to have any left over.
 

AntecCSR

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So you're using a Duron? What CPU fan ( I noticed you didn't mention that as a noise source, which often is a major component of noise)? or is not fan noise the cause and only vibrational noise you're hearing?

Also since Dell is an Intel only house it's not always a fair comparison, also Dell tends to use some shrouds etc as well as some proprietary things in their cases and power supplies.

It could be 0.8mm steel used in the Solution Series, but that only works if the others you talk about use thicker steel ( I honestly don't know about what Dell, Micron or Gateway use in that regard).

Beyond that I don't know what to say. Since we've sold literally thousands of these cases and I haven't heard compliants of noise from them (unless the power supply is going out). I am sorry that you are not satisfied with our product.

AntecCSR
 

SinfulWeeper

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AntecCSR. I am not using a fan on my heatsink. I made a shroud to blow the air from the back of the case onto the CPU... just like the OEM's. Going that route cut the noise down drastically. However the noise that still eminates from the computer is driving me nuts.
 

MentalAtrophy

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Ummm.... those 1.9ghz pcs from dell are P4's right? those tend to run ever so slightly cooler versus speed than amd's processors. at least that's what everyone seems to think. ok, enough sarcasm from me.

I have an OEM machine... i can hear it over my other computer (when i turn the delta down that is ;x) which happens to be in an Antec SX1040b. That OEM comp is just a pIII 800 with a hs and a fan above (not on) + the PSU fan. The Antec has 4 fans + the PSU fan, and the delta.

 

mztykal

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I guess you're really anal about sound. Because I have a SX1030 right next to me with NOTHING ELSE in my room that makes noise and I can barely hear it. I mean it's audible, but not a lot. It's a GREAT case too. I've gone through 3 of them in like 4 months for either customers or myself.

I have 3 Panaflo L1A's in there right now along with a Enermax "whispher" psu with (2) 80mm fans in it and a 80mm Enermax adjustable fan on my heatsink and I can barely hear anything besides a low "hum" sound from my comp. :)

 

dunkster

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I like the 1030 in every respect except fan noise.

I installed an Alpha 8045U, and couldn't hear the heatsink fan above the noise of the two case fans and PS fan.

I have Panaflo L1A fans on order.

Hope this helps!
 

Soldat

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well that's a first....antecs are the best cases i've ever owned! Switch to a 600 or 800 series case (or the 1000) and then see what you think
 

SinfulWeeper

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Sounds tempting. However I live in Alaska. So shipping a case can only be done by second day air. Roughly about $55-$90 depending on the case. Unless somebody knows a online dealer who sells cases and ships via USPS. Otherwise if I were to sink in $130 for a case and it turns out to be loud, I will have wasted my money.

That is why I am asking suggestions for a different case that is quiet. I mean face it. Places like Enlight, Antec, Supermicro, Lian Li, or so on and so on are not going to let me sample cases to find the one I like. No, they will want their money up front. And if I do not like it, I am screwed and they will not refund me. Or they may, but not the shipping. In which case I could have bought two cases.

Anal about sound? Kinda. But hell, even with everything stripped down as it is. My computer is eminating 36db's +/-. The loudest fan I am running is rated at 21db's and there is absolutely no reason whats so ever for the case to emit noise that loud.
Supermicro was sweet. However I do not have the room for a full tower anymore. (the SX1000 series pushes it close, but they are a little smaller). Anyway my impression of Antec is they can not be built too good to have those noises emitted for such quiet things in my computer.