Help: I'm thinking about opening up an internet cafe/gaming

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Pooteh

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i like the idea of being able to go to a cafe, slap down a few bucks and play online team games with people there. if your bored, away from home or whatever it would be great. playing with people in the same room is a bit different from playing alone at home. compared to arcades, much better. arcades are like so lame now:p
 

Stallion

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Some one just opened up one by me a few weeks ago and I stopped by on Tuesday. I snagged a flier that with some info on it. They have 20 PCs with AthlonXP2000,GF 4Ti 128mg video and sound blaster 5.1 cards. With 21 inch monitors. It says they have T1.

I over heard another guy asking how much the fee if for the internet access and the owner said around 1K a month. They are open from 10am till midnight and just server pop and snacks.

The games are the usual, CS , MoH, UT2, Diablo 2 , Jedi outcast, ever quest.... Right now their opening offer is get one free hour when you buy 3 hours.

There was about 8 guys in there when I stopped buy.

The only problem I saw was his location. It's a busy street but it's off the main drag and not near to many things like stores,homes,schools or buisnesses.

I would imagine you would run at a loss for at least 6 months or more..
 

rootaxs

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I've got one word for you as far as hardware goes - Lease . Most major manufacturers have business lease programs that allow you to get the machines at significantly lower monthly fee's and you have the option to upgrade to better machines when the time comes to do so.

It's probably going to be a good thing what you're doing, if Starbucks is starting to offer wireless access at their cafe's how much different can yours be?
 

Stallion

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And one more thing i just thought of. Busty girls!


Have a bunch of busty chicks working there. Kind of like a Hooters but instead of wing and beer you have CS and MoH.
rolleye.gif
 

iamme

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Great info, guys.

I was actually kicking around this idea w/ some friends of mine, as well.

 

iamme

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One thing we were talking about was console games. They aren't big now, but XBox and PS2 both are making strides towards online gaming. If that becomes big, it'd be a pretty sweet time to get things ready.

Instead of spending $1000+ per PC, get a console, nice big TV, speakers and a big ole' couch. People could come and have a blast in their own little cubicles or rooms.
 

spanky

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demand depends on location i think. i mean... if u were in the middle of NYC, i bet ur place would always be packed. but then again... in NYC.... ur rent would be ridiculous.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: TranceNation

1.Demand: we need to figure out if there is any demand for this, target audience: gamers, tourist who want inet access, people who don't have net access (email,chatting,etc).

I've always heard alot of people talking about starting one of these, but never heard of anyone with any long-term success. We had a gaming center here, in an upscale shopping center, and it was pretty busy for awhile, but now it is gone. Nobody I know, knows why.

My recommendation is to start doing research. You're going to need investment money, so you're going to have to write a business plan and show how you are going to be profitable, both in the short and long term. That means you're going to have to find locations, decide what to pay people, equipment costs, software cost, etc.

Best of luck to you and your friends.
 

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To be honest, only do it if you love it! It is simple and plain.

The reason is it will buy yourself a wage, but it won't make you rich.

The best way to do it would be create a viable Cafe and then introduce the Computer side of things in small amounts.. The cafe will make way more money and is much cheaper to setup.

I live in Sydney there are alot of internet cafes. they tunover a few hundred dolars from the computer side of things but thousands for the cafe...
 

benliong

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Originally posted by: iamme
One thing we were talking about was console games. They aren't big now, but XBox and PS2 both are making strides towards online gaming. If that becomes big, it'd be a pretty sweet time to get things ready.

Instead of spending $1000+ per PC, get a console, nice big TV, speakers and a big ole' couch. People could come and have a blast in their own little cubicles or rooms.

That was my original idea. Console Gaming cafe does not really work until game developers come up with more network games. Consoles are cheaper than kickass PC and easier for anyone to own. There is really no incentive for anyone to come to the cafe unless there's a chance to play multiplayer games with his/her pals. 16 players HALO is a good example. But there is just not enough of these kind of games.

Fighting games would generally attract a bunch of people if kids were to challenge each other like they do in arcades.

Equipment is another problem. Even though consoles are cheap, you need kickass TVs and sound system for each of them to give kids incentive to come play your xbox rather than theirs. An Xbox is $200, but a big TV can cost 3 times of that. In the end you have more or less the same cost as getting a computer.

I was looking at places to lease TVs to test out those ideas. If anyone know anywhere good please let me know. :)
 

mcveigh

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Originally posted by: Stallion
And one more thing i just thought of. Busty girls!


Have a bunch of busty chicks working there. Kind of like a Hooters but instead of wing and beer you have CS and MoH.
rolleye.gif

actually a really good idea, eye candy is always nice especially to high school computer geeks....heck any computer geek


 

Thegonagle

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There was one around here in a great location, one of the busiest intersections in south Minneapolis (measured in both vehicular and foot traffic). It closed last year. I think the location was a little too good, meaning the rent was too high.
 

Ne0

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My friend started up a internet gaming cafe, he invested about $100,000 total into it. At first it was a small place off buford highway, about 20-30 computers.. The building he had was really small, and there was barely any parking spots. But it would be constantly full, people would park on the grass and across the street. Well, this was when Counter-Strike really first started getting popular (in Beta) and I remember going there and I was on a 2 hour waiting list to play (it was like this all the time, even on a Tuesday @ 2 am). A lot of people were playing Starcraft as well. We would play on multiple servers, all on LAN. There was no internet in the initial beginning, and LAN was really fun. He was making a lot of money in the beginning. So he thought there was a huge demand and went got a bigger place off Jimmy Carter it was in a same shopping complex as Kroger and some other stores, 40-50 computers, big parking lot, very comfortable compared to the first place.. but it was 10 miles away from the old place, and another Internet cafe opened near his old building. He didn't do half as near as good as his old place, a combination of the change in location and the competition. Also, when he first opened a lot of his customers didn't have broadband access & they had really slow computers. There were all on dialup, however as time went by more & more people got broadband and faster computers. Some of those guys who came to play on the fast T1's or the fast computers, no longer came because they had it at their homes now. He did have his core 15-20 regular customers who would come and play all the time, those guys would basically cut profits even. He also had new types of customers (not all for gaming) college/high school kids came in to type up there reports (some customers would actually help them on the report), and they would stay for about 4-5 hours. Some people would come in and video chat/email's/surf. He had a few 16 player / 32 player public servers that were really popular. After a few months of profit. However, he would keep breaking even. In the end, he told me he actually made some money about $10,000 total after all the investments(mainly because of those first few months, he would make at least $1000 nightly) and decided to buy a Bruster's Icecream and close the place down. The other internet cafe competition I hear is doing really well right now, I hear they are banking in the cash.. I don't know about the story from the other side, but you should get some advice from that owner.
 

Instan00dles

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If you go through with this invest in a program called deep freeze. When it is installed it will revert everything doe to it back to the way the computer was just before the program was installed after a restart. It makes it easy to keep the computers clean.
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: Instan00dles
If you go through with this invest in a program called deep freeze. When it is installed it will revert everything doe to it back to the way the computer was just before the program was installed after a restart. It makes it easy to keep the computers clean.

couldn't you use Norton Ghost and make a base image, making reinstalls somewhat painless?
 

mcveigh

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there are programs that clean out the OS on each reboot to the defult install, automatically, many colleges use it
 

iamme

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oh, i didn't read the part about reinstalling after a reboot. that's pretty cool :D
 

XMan

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Most of the Internet cafe's I've seen are part of another business like a bookstore or bagel or coffee shop.

How about a laundromat with PC's to surf the 'net on??? I'd go there.
 

SuperSix

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I've never seen one that didn't FAIL in after the first 6 months.. At least in the US..

 

ScottMac

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You may want to consider obtaining the PCs on a short-term lease (like a year). Leasing would give you a way to upgrade the PCs on a regular basis. Some leasing / manufacturers provide service with the lease (for break/fix).

For that matter, you may also want to lease the networking infrastructure as well ... start with a good 10/100 system, then upgrade to Gig as the PCs evolve to be able to take advantage of it.

There may be some tax advantages to leasing as well, talk to your accountant.

Good Luck

Scott