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Help (I need LIFE help)

Darkstar757

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Well

Here is the issue I am currently employed with a good IT company(In which I feel really blessed). I have a BS in CS. I can code but I love doing admin work much more.

I really want to be a Sr. Unix and Linux admin in the very near future. I am very good in Linux at this stage in my life. I am considering going to Grad School. I not the type of person to want to get rich quick but I do have a goal of making at like 90K a year by the time im 26 or 27. I am currently 23 and making about half of that salary. What areas of IT would you guys suggest to earn this kind of salary. Also what certs or degrees would really help we get to this level. Any kind of idea would be greatly apreciated.


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Darkstar

 
Try taking some training classes and self study.

You're wanting to shift career focus is what I'm hearing? What possible positions at your current company would allow you to do what you want? Or do you need to look elsewhere?

Also depending on location 90K for a staff level position is pretty high. Especially for an "admin" posisition which is generally a very junior level job.

 
Certs don't mean squat. It's all about what you can do.

Rather, it's all about what you can DEMONSTRATE you can do to your employer, and how well you can DEMONSTRATE that your skills are valuable to your employer and are worth the salary you desire.

In all seriousness, I suggest that you spend a significant portion of your personal development on interpersonal skills. Really. Learn how to deal with all kinds of people to get the results you want. Learn how to handle difficult customers and difficult bosses. Those are the skills that are going to get you the raises, no matter what field you're in.

That's not saying you don't need to be good with computers. You do. But being good with computers, while necessary for advancement in your chosen career path, is not sufficient.

I've been in tech support for 5 years now, and my people skills are unimaginably better now than they were 5 years ago. I am definitely much more qualified to find success, in any field, by having these skills.

Edit: If you're going back to school, consider taking some basic psychology courses. Really.
 
I not sure that I want to change fields but there was a time I felt I could make 90k doing computers. However after the E-Bust that has gone down the pipe. Dont get me wrong I love computers that the only reason I made it through CS.

Its just that I really want to be able to live very confortable in the future. I dont want to waste time in CS if there is no realy money to be made. I have considered starting my own business but the huge percent of failure and the enormus about of capital required scares me. I dont come from a weathy family so getting that kind would be extremely hard.

 
Originally posted by: Darkstar757
I not sure that I want to change fields but there was a time I felt I could make 90k doing computers. However after the E-Bust that has gone down the pipe. Dont get me wrong I love computers that the only reason I made it through CS.

Its just that I really want to be able to live very confortable in the future. I dont want to waste time in CS if there is no realy money to be made. I have considered starting my own business but the huge percent of failure and the enormus about of capital required scares me. I dont come from a weathy family so getting that kind would be extremely hard.


Your career and income will grow as you take on more responsibility. That's kinda how it works.

As far as the capital required to start a business there are loans.
 
Well Spidey which positions will generate this kind of income.

Perhaps some name would allow me to do more research to find which one would suit me best.
 
Originally posted by: Darkstar757
Well Spidey which positions will generate this kind of income.

Perhaps some name would allow me to do more research to find which one would suit me best.

You can progress through the ranks. What position is above yours? There's one.

As far as chasing the next "hot" technology I'd steer clear of that one. Your starting your career, not trying to find some golden ring.

Any managerial or director position will make good dough as well as sales. You could be "manager of systems administration" which means you manage the network admins.

Generally one stays in his first job (your actual career job) for about 3 years to gain experience and figure out what you like to do. Then you next job will be centered around that. It is nice to have 3, 5 and 10 year goals as well.
 
Well actually I would love to be a manager of network admins. However I dont understand why in our work force there is this stigma that you have to be like 40 and up before you can get one of these jobs. Im not really one to rush but life is short and I dont want to be 40 before Im earing that kind of money.
 
You'd do well to look at Salary.com to see if senior IT administrators even make that sort of money in your geographic region (I'm going to guess that they don't, simply because IT spending is still weak).

Do some research on both job responsibilities and median salaries. It'll give you an idea of what a reasonable wage is, and suggest the training you need to get there. I think your expectations don't have a basis in reality.

 
Originally posted by: Darkstar757
Well actually I would love to be a manager of network admins. However I dont understand why in our work force there is this stigma that you have to be like 40 and up before you can get one of these jobs. Im not really one to rush but life is short and I dont want to be 40 before Im earing that kind of money.

Late 20s, early 30s is fine for a manger. As long as you have 5-7 years experience preferably with 2-3 of leadership/team lead during the same time.
 
I never ever will believe that my dreams cant be held. I only asked for advise from those of you who are wiser and more experienced in IT.

I did not mean to offend anyone.
 
If I had to pick the hot thing, it would be security. Companies are tired of being flooded with spam, having to monitor firewalls, block ports, patch IIS, etc. They want someone who knows all that stuff and will take care of it. Will it last until retirement? Who knows.

The big money goes to the people who make the decisions, not the implementers. For example, you have a farm of Windows servers. Should you switch to Linux? Will you save anything? How much? What is the impact? Will the company sink if you screw it up? There's a lot of responsibility in making those calls, and the people who make the money are the ones who can do that successfully. Frankly, they don't touch the machines very much. That's what the admins are for.

Just look at the supply and demand. There are plenty of people qualified to be Linux admins today. Five years ago, not so many. Five years from now, there might be a gazillion.
 
Look, you're not the only person wondering this.

First, look at the money in your company. Where is the profit? And, who makes the big bucks? And, where does IT fit in the scheme of things?

There are two big and very different types of IT: one is for running the company, taking care of the details, and the other is if it is part of what the company sells - whether it's an IT product itself, or whether the IT allows the products to be made, sold, whatever, more profitably.

The first type will always be a "staff" expense, and the bosses will always be looking for ways to lower the costs.

The second type is usually where the big bucks are.

The most important thing for you to learn is "how to learn". You need to specialize - linux is as good as anything - because you need to acquire the skillset for acquiring deep knowledge. But you also need to learn a lot of other things, the more ususual the better. If you want to do well in IT over the long term you need to figure out ways to keep learning.

I found assembly-level programming to be the most valuable, though I only worked in that area a short time, because it gave me a good understanding of how everything worked together. YMMV.

Also, frankly, you want to make the big bucks, you hang out with the dudes who make that kind of dough. What hobbies do they have? (Robotics, flying model airplanes, golf come to mind) Get involved in that. What charities do they support? Etc. Lots of important business decisions take place away from the office.

Also, you can't go wrong with sales training and with public speaking training. Sales because, face it, your salary depends on someone somewhere selling something. Speaking because you'll have to do it.

Good luck.


 
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