Help Guys

[Cable God]

Just threw together this machine last night after the parts came in:


Gigabyte 8iEXP
Retail 1.8A ,AlphaHS, YSTech 49CFM 80mm
Corsair XMS 512mb PC3000 DDR
Gainward GF4 Ti 4600
WD800JB
Lite ON 16X DVD and 48X CDRW
Audigy
Chieftec/Turbolink Blk w/ clear window 420W PSU


Do any of you guys have any experience of the ability of this board or any OCing tips? I am wanting to get it to 2880 (160FSB) and I know that heat won't be a problem at all. I have 4 YSTech 49CFM 80mm fans in the case and one on the Alpha sucking the heat off the Northwood.

 

[dude]

Since you've already have the machine together, why don't you...... TRY IT! :Q

 

[Cable God]

dude, I am going to do that. I was just meaning that if anyone knows the ins and outs of this board or tips and tricks with it, it would be much appreciated if they shared their experiences here.

 

[Cable God]

Bump, anyone know any tips on this board?

 

[Duvie]

Well first...to get to 2880 it is likley you will need 1.6-1.7v vcore if you have a newer sl68q chip...if you have an older sl63x or older packing date then june it is likley you wont be able to attain that at any safe vcore levels....


The gigabyte board undervolts so you will find you may be limited in ocing up to 1.65-1.7v...You may wish to do the hardwire trick...

You also need to a search as the topic of ocing has been done a lot....

I will just say....

Leave the ram set to 1:1 ratio and normal cas timings first and run the cpu up...Ocing ram too high may give you a false ceiling as what the chip needs in vcore to run and what is its limit....

Install windows at default level of everything and then begin to oc...

Use prime95 and any other intensive cpu program to test stability and heat...At early levels just run prime95 for an hour max and move on...Once you settle on cpu limit then start tweaking ram. This may require to back off of cpu speed a bit to obtain stability. Once you settle on final cpu and ram speed then prime test for 12 hours.


Gigabyte board also will report higher temps then some other boards ((cough) ASUS (cough)). Therefore don't be to worried. You know you have a good cooler and as long as you apply AS3 properly you should be set. 60-65c start getting concerned....

 

[Cable God]

Bam! Duvie hit the nail on the head. Exactly the type of info I'm looking for. I am at 2.4 now at 1.550V (133FSB) at 32 degrees C. Now I will start slowly tweaking and stressing it. I did use AS3 on the CPU and board chipset.Thanks for the info Duvie. I appreciate it. By the way, how can I go about telling which chip I have that you're talking about?

 

[Duvie]

If you got a retail chip then it should be right on the box... a white label...just post all the codes and numbers on that thing then I could tell you...The packing date should be just right there in plain sight!!!

If not then there was pertinent info on the heatspreader of the chip itself....


How much is the board undervolting??? What you set in bios is not likely the voltages it is getting...Get MBM5.1.9.1 program and see what actual vcore is....I thnk it undervolts quite a bit...

 

[Cable God]

Hmmmm, It has 2 small 2" long white stickers with a barcode on each with a long series of numbers:

1.) (01)04719331317027(21)SN0231006736

2.) (01)04719331813031(21)SN0231002566

Above that has the board model #, and lists the features of the board. Doesn't show the date of pkg. anywhere.

WinCPUID Shows this:

[ WCPUID Version 3.0g (c) 1996-2002 By H.Oda! ]
$$--- Chipset Information

Host Bridg : 8086 1A30 11 1A308086 Intel 845E/845G/845GL
ISA Bridg : 8086 24C0 01 00000000 Intel 82801DB (ICH4)
IDE Controller : 8086 24CB 01 24C28086 Intel 82801DB (ICH4)
VGA Device : 10DE 0253 A2 121910B0 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600

AGP Revision : 2.0 / Enabled
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##--- Date 08/22/2002, Time 17:48:25

 

[Duvie]

If you have the retail box the cpu came in (no oem) it should be at one of the ends on a white label of about 2 x 3 inches...it should have thing like product, version, fpo/batch, etc...

 

[Cable God]

Ahhhh, I thought you were talking about a chipset on the mobo, I was like huh? Ok, the CPU info:

Pack Date: 07/11/02

FPO/Batch: 7224A332

I see those ugly SL63X numbers in the priduct code! D@MNIT! I always get the shaft!

 

[Duvie]

No worries!! Still may be able to do a lot...Mine did 2.63ghz w/ 1.7v....

The sl68q chip is believed to have had a die shrink and some and I some have gotten some high oc's out of these babies...I saw one guy doing 2.7ghz at default vcore so 2.9-3ghz may be his likely high....


If you board undervolts like I think it does then likely right now the chip is only get 1.48-1.5v at idle...You have plenty of romm since you are doing 2.4ghz right now....

I have done some testing and research and I have found what ever speed you can run at default vcore you can likely oc it 180-200mhz more if you stop at 1.7v....

Lets look at you going 2.6ghz right now...Up to the bios so you are doing 1.5v actual then keep running it up higher until it fails prime95 test then jump the vcore in .025 or .05 increments and keep going...

 

[Cable God]

Duvie, in MBM, which CORE sensor should I go by? Core 0 or Core 1? Which is the CPU core voltage? Also, in Voltage Config, there's 2 choices: ITE8712F Standard 1 and Standard 2. What are these? I the BIOS, I set the Core to 1.625V I believe. MBM is showing Core 0 at 1.53V and Core 1 at 1.78V. I am confused man. Thanks for all your help. I greatly appreciate it!

 

[Duvie]

That s going to be specific to the mobo...may want to ask other gigabyte owners...I imagine it is the 1.53v but one may be agp voltage...You have not tweaked anything there right??

 

[Cable God]

You're right Duvie. I think the 1.53 is the Core and the 1.73 is the AGP. I didn't touch the AGP V yet. I just got it to 2.43 (135) and runs fine. I tried 150 but it reboots automatically at the Windows splash screen. I'll bump it little by little and see how high I can go and stay stable. Thanks for you help, it's much appreciated!

 

[Duvie]

Hmmm...Agp by default should be 1.5v as well...so if you didn't touch it then the 1.73v can't be the agp....

Go into motherboard forum and ask gigabyte owners what they set it at....

I have never had the cpu restart for not having enough juice unless I was like .075 to .1v not enough juice....watch voltages being delivered as you load it as well...vcore should not drop much past .05-.06v from idle during loading...

I can start at 2.8ghz and run benches with 1.71v but it can't run prime95 stable at 2.75ghz for 30minutes with 1.71v....

 

[WarCon]

cablegod, if this is any consolation my SL63X 1.8A pack date was 7/10/02 and on my Epox 4G4A+ I am running 2.61 (145fsb) at 1.7vcore and am Prime stable at 2.7 (150fsb) at 1.75vcore, but I run it at the slightly lower speed since I already fried one 1.6A with too much voltage (1.85v).

 

[Cable God]

Well, after a bit more tweaking, I am up to 2520 (140FSB) at 32-33 Degrees C at idle and 40 Degrees C under Prime95 load. Seems stable. 3DMark2K1 is at 11,200ish consistantly. Thanks for the help guys! I htik I'll work on it a bit more later after it gets good and broken in

 

[LastRide]

Keep us posted how you make out.

 

[Cable God]

whoa! I am at 151FSB now and STABLE!

Temps are 32-33C idle and 45-48C under Prime95! WOOT!

CorsairXMS memory settings are whatever normal means in the BIOS. I didn't turn on "Top Performance". More testing to do and I'll keep bumping it as long as it's stable! I'll keep you guys updated.



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##--- Date 08/23/2002, Time 21:27:24