[HELP] Duron heat / heatsink installation and thermal grease questions

asterisks

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Hello.

I have just bought a duron 600 and without any overclocking, I installed the chip. When I first ran the system, the heatsink was not making contact with the die and the chip overheated beyond 90 deg C, according to the Gigabyte GA-7ZM CPU sensor. The chip was overheated for around 5-10 minutes. Then I removed the four foam rubbers
so that the heatsink could make contact with the die. This reduced the temperature to 78 deg C. I then ripped off the thermal pad and applied thermal grease which reduced the temp to +- 50 deg C. That's the background, here are the questions.

1. What is the safe / normal operating temperature range for a duron 600 processor?

2. What kind of damage can 5 - 10 minutes of overheating inflict on the chip and how likely is it for the chip to have been damaged?

3. When applying thermal grease, do I apply the grease to the little resistors around the die as well?

4. This heatsink is supposed to be for a socket A processor but might be for a socket 370 (the dealer said it's a socket A cooler, the box has no identification so I can't confirm). With the foam rubbers on, the heatsink won't make contact with the die. Are there any tricks to solve that problem?

5. I will be moving the computer around a bit (for network games etc). If I leave the foam shock absorbers off, and have the computer on the back of a van (lots a vibrations), what is the likelyhood of actual damage being done to the processor considering a normal fan/heatsink cooler strap.

Thanks in advance.


 

Mikewarrior2

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Oct 20, 1999
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I haven't heard anything about the max operating temp of durons, but 90 is awfully high.

Secondly, it appears as though duron cores may be more fragile to rocking heatsinks than p3 flip chips are. I have a feeling your heatsink isn't a socket A heatsink.

Is there a way to put the feet back on if you do get a socket A heatsink? If you can wait until the end of this week, the Socket A Golden orbs should be out.


Mike
 

HepDude

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The vendor where I bought my Duron said it should not be run over 130 degrees F (55 degrees C).

When idling, my CPU was at 33 degrees C.

The only socket A (462) fan/cooler they had was the "ADDA CPU Cooler" which looks exactly like a Global Win 370 unit and clips onto those tabs on the socket on either site with a clip like the Global Win. However, the clip has clearly been engineered specifically for Socket A (462), since it makes very good contact with the Duron (it arrived coated with white thermal stuff which was mostly, but not entirely squeezed out by applying the clip, indicating the solid contact).

Many people are now saying that however close the 370 stuff looks to working with Socket A, it is dangerous to do so, and so it is better to use real Socket A designed cooling.

The Anandtech cooling equipment review showed mid-to-upper 30s for the expensive coolers, and no more than 47 C for the worst performer, so it sounds like your cooler/CPU combination is not working.
 

Mikewarrior2

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well, the main problem with using a fc/socket 370 cooler on a socket A solution is that it exerts too much pressure on the cpu slug...

for example, the new Gorbs exert 12lbs/inch of pressure for the duron version, something like 16 for hte p3 version.


Mike