HELP ! CHIPPED CORE result in o/c?

boxed

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I recently replaced my paste on the cpu and i noticed that i chipped the core a lil on the edge.

no wonder why my pc's been freezing and unstable of hitting 133mzh fbs on me. I can't even hit 133mzh...it would load windows and reboot by it self...

I dunno if the chipping is causing the rebooting or unstablement on my pc. But its being weird on me...curse the new case and heatsink!

my set up

Soltek nforce 2
2 x 512mb kingston hyper x pc3200 400mzh
radeon 9700
420watt psu
3 fans working and 1 cyclone


thats about it..and i've tried turing the DIMM on the ram up to 2.7 but no hope of o/cing to 133mzh or HIGHER...HELP!

Replacement warranty time?
 

boxed

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my current stat wit cpu-z

Number of CPUs 1

Code Name Barton
Specification AMD Athlon(tm)
Family / Model / Stepping 6 A 0
Extended Family / Model 7 A
Core Stepping
Technology 0.13 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
CPU Clock Speed 1102.5 MHz
Clock multiplier x 11.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 100.2 MHz
Bus Speed 200.5 MHz
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 1102.5 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 64 bits



Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard model nVidia-nForce2,
BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS revision 6.00 PG
BIOS release date 04/21/2003
Chipset nVidia nForce2 Ultra 400 rev. C1
Southbridge nVidia nForce2 MCP rev. A3
Sensor chip Winbond W83627HF

AGP Status enabled, rev. 3.0
AGP Data Transfert Rate 8x
AGP Side Band Addressing supported, not enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MBytes



Memory
DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
DRAM Size 1024 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 200.5 MHz
FSB:DRAM 3:6
CAS# Latency 2.5 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 8 clocks
# of memory modules 2
Module 0 Kingston DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Module 1 Kingston DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes

 

pillage2001

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You've chipped the core and by chipping it, the instabilities occured. You might be able to RMA it but it's a physical damage, YMMV.
 

MeowCat

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exactly.... as the man said, it's the chipped core that's screwing you up.

very few of the cases a minor chiped core can survive.. but you gotta be lucky otherwise yur fooked... most often chipped core will result in huge hit in overclocking. Both internal damage and cooling are affected. Your chip is dying. Prepare to arrange funeral celemony. Take some pictures and coffin for the CPU.. get some candles and what not.. Invite your family... your brothers and sisters and daddy and mommy and granpa and granma and your friends and teachers and your pet and what not..
 

KF

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>i chipped the core a lil on the edge.
Usually doesn't hurt anything, but of course it could and sometimes does.

I chipped the edge of my 800MHz Tbird several years ago. I ran it OCed to 950MHz for several year until I replaced it with a 1.4G, and demoted it to a computer downstairs. It now OCs a little higher to 1GHz, probaby due to improvements in mobos since.

>CPU Clock Speed 1102.5 MHz
>Clock multiplier x 11.0
>Front Side Bus Frequency 100.2 MHz

So you have this super underclocked? The Barton is supposed to be 11x 166, isn't it? Resetting the CMOS and setting the memory timings to the most conservative wouldn't hurt. Also make sure the HS isn't accidentally shifted over and resting on the plastic step of the socket (or backwards). Reseat the DIMMs and any plug-in boards.

>curse the new case and heatsink!

If you changed the power supply and still have the old one, temporarily substitute it for the new one to check it.
 

Amused

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Look at it as a great time for an upgrade. :)

BTW, I hate to get all moral on you, but please don't make other's pay for your mistake by RMAing the chip. :)
 

NokiaDude

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Yeah, my brother chipped his Duron 950mhz BIG time, but it still WORKS! Although Win98 isn't too stable now....
 

boxed

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installed it with best buy's thermal paste, i couldnt find my artic 5 till tonite in my girlfriend's room lol...hmm...

but ya...its running 200FBS fine..

i tried 205...but no luck.
 

slaves123

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the stability depend on what part is chipped, aprox. 50% of the core is cache memory, if you broke the cache it should not be VERY damagieng in general term, but if you chipped the ALU, the registers or the clock generator, say bye bye to your chip
 

tinyabs

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Originally posted by: slaves123
the stability depend on what part is chipped, aprox. 50% of the core is cache memory, if you broke the cache it should not be VERY damagieng in general term, but if you chipped the ALU, the registers or the clock generator, say bye bye to your chip

This is not correct. An incorrect Bit will cause data inconsistency. A difference in a bit will cause incorrect instruction, data and address. The CPU is circuit board with nanoscopic wires and transistors.

Anyway, my older Athlon and Duron are chipped badly around the edges and it still runs. Probably the underside has layers of copper wiring and topside are just ceramic. The core wafer is in the center of the chip; X, Y and Z. So I assume you can polish the topside to thin the ceramic and it runs cooler. I assume this is how they package the chip.
 

JBT

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I chipped an my old 1.4 T-Bird still running fine in my parents system today.
 

Ecliptic

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i have a duron 900mhz with a chipped corner. It is completely stable @ 1066mhz. On the other hand, I have a chipped celeron 600mhz that freezes during multi-media such as watching DVDs.
 

pspada

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Originally posted by: Ecliptic
i have a duron 900mhz with a chipped corner. It is completely stable @ 1066mhz. On the other hand, I have a chipped celeron 600mhz that freezes during multi-media such as watching DVDs.

It appears that you need to stop changing heatsinks? :frown: