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sweetie

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I recently purchased an intel 845d chipset board, w/p4,1.2gig sdram,64mg ati radeon 7000, 40gig western hd. AND I CANNOT PLAY MY GAMES WITHOUT THINGS BEING CHOPPY, I feel it must be the mobo., if so what would have been a better board?
 
well the radeon isnt the fastest of graphics cards. u would be better off with a radeon 9000.

a p4 1.2? i didnt think they made them that slow.

 
Welcome to AT.

Not sure. What motherboard Manufacturer and Model do you have? I didn't think Intel made a 1.2GHz P4! unless I'm reading it wrongly, how much RAm have you got? You need to give us a bit more information, like which Radeon Drivers you are using, which games, what resolutions/settings
 
well for one thing a p4 at 1.2 ghz is prob at 1 ghz pentirum 3 levels it not slower.
the graphics card is ok, just turn down the resolution. also try the newest drivers from ATI's website.

are u using the proper chipset drivers for the 845d? what os are u using?

hope u didnt pay to much for this setup


give us complete details on OS, RAM, games u are playing. etc
 
sorry p4 2ghz, using win98os mobo? not sure either. Tried to upgrade ati's drivers, but was getting error saying inf error driver not found, so I was confused with that also. Tried to reload the driver from cd and get a cd error when trying to load, I have 1.2ghz of ram, unfortunately paid too much for this piece of crap. My p3 500 mhz played the games much better. I thought maybe it was the video board also, but it is also new and paid too much for that also. I did not do much research on refurbishing my old maching so I got screwed, by someone I thought was my friend, he knows I am a gamer and I thought he would give my something that would play games.

Thanks for your input
 
The system should be able to play games just fine, if I understand what you have in it. There has got to be something your missing.

Or I could be wrong and your "friend" gave you a bad deal.
 
the mobo is a P4, PC400, 400 mhz fsb, 4x agp did upgrade chipset, really do not know what the problem might be, this has been really frustrating, I just purchased the 1.2gigs of sdram hoping that would help, but that did not make much difference at all?????
 
sorry p4 2ghz, using win98os mobo?

Since 98 is an old OS, maybe it didn't load the proper IDE, AGP, and motherboard drivers? Didn't 98 have slow down issues with more than 512 mb of ram?
 
Originally posted by: antiABIT
[Didn't 98 have slow down issues with more than 512 mb of ram?

Yeah, I think you're right about the 512MB max restriction.

Also (s)he says it's "SDRAM" which will cripple the P4. Not nearly enough memory bandwidth for this bandwith-hungry CPU. Should have gone with DDR or RDRAM.

Next time do a little research here at AT prior to building asystem. The friendly folks here will be happy to help you.

 
845D is a DDR chipset. Do you have 1.2 Gigs of SDRAM or 1.2 Gigs of DDR SDRAM? Win98SE has a bug with more than 512 Meg ram. Try pulling one stick out. Did you install the 845D chipset drivers? They are not included with Win98SE. BTW, Radeon 7000 is a pretty weak card.
 
mobo is a DDR or Sdram board, I screwed up the jumpers and had to go with the Sdram. I took out one stick of 512 and made very little difference, I also saw where they will trade-in my ati for an upgrade I will go that route and try to get os me or 2000 asap.

I will replace the mobo soon!!

Thanks for all your help and next time I will ask for help on picking out a new mobo
 
Some basics here.
P4 should run DDR or RDRAM. SDRAM is not a good choice. Can you exchange the SDRAM for DDR?
XP, 2K is fine. Stay (far) away from ME
Video should be GF4 Ti4x00 or Radeon 9x00 class
 
I'm curious.

What 845d motherboard supported sdram and ddr?

How do you get to 1.2G of ram?

What games are choppy?

Where did you buy the system?

Did you use the same hd from your old system without reinstalling the o/s?
 
Originally posted by: Dug
I'm curious.

What 845d motherboard supported sdram and ddr?

How do you get to 1.2G of ram?

What games are choppy?

Where did you buy the system?

Did you use the same hd from your old system without reinstalling the o/s?

LOL

"Dude, you need a dell"
 
I purchased the board from a company called Mid Michigan Computer Connections. The board is called a PC400 with the 845d chipset on it. I would like to trade in the sdram for some rdram. The layout of the board is such that I have to be able to jumper about 100 pins to use the ddr, and all of those got screwed up when I tried to switch them the first time. This is a business type mobo, it was never ment for gaming. So if I cannot jumper those 100 jumpers to use DDR I am stuck with the sdram.

Games: Sime Unleashed- rollercoaster tycoon-unreal gold-flight simulator

No I purchased a new HD also

it is 2 sticks of 512
 
What mobo is this exactly? anyway definitly get ddrRam and winXp. You did say you'd get me or XP, but me is win 98 = crap. xp is the way to go.
 
Win 98 doesn't use more than 512 of ram as the max file is 512. either change that setting in config or boot.ini. can't remember which. even if you run 512, this is the case.

Search Microsoft KB. The answer is out there.
 
recently purchased an intel 845d chipset board, w/p4,1.2gig sdram,64mg ati radeon 7000, 40gig western hd. AND I CANNOT PLAY MY GAMES WITHOUT THINGS BEING CHOPPY, I feel it must be the mobo., if so what would have been a better board?

Bummer, reading what you have is really scary, looks like you got screwed at being a newbie at computer hardware. This business is sometimes killer. Ok I did some research into what you could get, and what you should keep.

Honestly, whatever motherboard you have, get rid of it. MAYBE it IS faulty, get a refund and invest into something better.

If you have DDR SDRAM [_____-______] thats how "newer" memory looks like (my drawing sucks I know, but I hope u get the idea) It usually has labeled DDR-SDRAM PC2100 or PC2700

These are intel 845PE chipset motherboards. Check out some motherboards you should look in These!



If you have REGULAR SDRAM [____-___-____] thats how "old" SDRAM memory looks like. It usually has markings like PC100 or PC133. This is slower, but if you dont have enough money to purchase DDR-SDRAM Memory you can use this until your next upgrade. Both are still fast.

This is the ORIGINAL intel 845 chipset motherboards. Check out some of these motherboard you should look in Here!



You have a good processor. Keep your Hard drive, your graphics card is old but the games you play is alright and your processor is fast enough not to notice choppy images. If you can afford Windows XP, purchase it maybe it will solve some issues and can use the Extra memory above 512 megabytes. Look around the website that are linked maybe you can find something better. ( ie. SiS chipset for the Pentium 4). But I must stress don't make things harder by keeping the old system.

btw welcome to anandtech.
 
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