Hellboy II

[StormRider]

I really liked the first one -- I thought it was one of the better comic book based movies I've seen. I'm eagerly waiting to see Hellboy II this weekend. But I worry that not many people share my feelings. Who else is excited about Hellboy II?

 

[Anubis]

no idea how well its going to do but im gonna go see it tonight, i was a fan of the Comic and thought the first was great, honestly other then Iron Man it was the best comic book movie there has been in a long Time

 

[Queasy]

I don't think it will do Iron Man numbers but it should do better than Speed Racer.

 

[PingSpike]

I had a take it or leave it attitude to the first one, it was an ok movie with some neat characters but felt a little to hokey. But the preview for the new one shows so many awesome monters I really want to see this one for just that if nothing else.

 

[Vehemence]

It'll probably do well but nothing like Iron Man well.

 

[K1052]

It was scheduled badly, should have pushed to August instead of releasing between Hancock and Dark Knight.

Probably won't do too hot.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

It looks like a good stupid fun movie.

 

[FlashG]

I want to see him "wake the baby".

 

[Aikouka]

I've mentioned it before, but the trailer actually turned me off. I practically feel like they took the entire movie and showed all the main plot points in the trailer =/.

I'm still going to see it though... I like getting out to see a movie every week .

 

[alkemyst]

it's popular now to bash the cool movies and bitch about trailers.

Ironman was pretty well bashed until everyone saw it, probably going to be a popular and poorly done Halloween costume this year.

 

[ggnl]

I think it'll do very well. Guillermo del Toro has gained a lot of recognition since the first movie, so that'll give it some appeal outside of the comic book fanboy crowd. Plus reviews have generally been very positive.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
it's popular now to bash the cool movies and bitch about trailers.

Uhh no, because the trailer is actually pretty shitty.

Most movies I see the trailer for actually make me want to see them, but this is the only trailer for a movie (that by name interested me) where the trailer actually made me not want to see it.

But it's useless to respond to your post, because you'll just babble on like always anyway.

 

[Anubis]

the trailers makes me want to see it

 

[FlashG]

Originally posted by: Anubis


the trailers makes me want to see it

.

 

[StevenYoo]

Originally posted by: Anubis


the trailers makes me want to see it

me too.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

It may struggle a bit because of all the other action/superhero movies this summer, but I look forward to it and I imagine that since it's directed by Guillermo del Toro it should be good. RT has it at 87%, which is not too shabby at all.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Anubis


the trailers makes me want to see it

It's alright if you like shitty trailers . I've seen it numerous times while at the movies and each time it just gets worse and worse. I can pretty much tell you the entire plot of the movie and what happens just by watching the trailer, which I don't know about you, but that's a bad thing. Not to mention some of the scenes shown were... well, not scenes that I would've chosen myself. Like the one with the old woman and the cat? Ooookay.

I'm sure it'll be a lot better than the trailer suggests to me, but the trailer looks like a hastily compiled piece of shit where they reveal way too much of the plot. Although, there are quite a few trailers that have revealed too much of the movie like Get Smart was another bad one in that regard.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
It looks like a good stupid fun movie.

This ^

The first one was entertaining, and it attempted to get all wishy-washy with the hole overused "I have a choice" theme at the end. But it held my attention.
And whenever Hellboy II finally makes it to regular TV or HBO, I'll see it as well.

 

[pnad]

I dont recall the first one doing all that well at the box office.

I did like #1 but I will probably wait for #2 on DVD.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
I'm sure it'll be a lot better than the trailer suggests to me, but the trailer looks like a hastily compiled piece of shit where they reveal way too much of the plot. Although, there are quite a few trailers that have revealed too much of the movie like Get Smart was another bad one in that regard.

That's pretty standard for trailers I think.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Aikouka
I'm sure it'll be a lot better than the trailer suggests to me, but the trailer looks like a hastily compiled piece of shit where they reveal way too much of the plot. Although, there are quite a few trailers that have revealed too much of the movie like Get Smart was another bad one in that regard.

That's pretty standard for trailers I think.

yea not really a new development thre


also Aikouka you read way more into trailers then i do

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
I had a take it or leave it attitude to the first one, it was an ok movie with some neat characters but felt a little to hokey.

That's the way I felt about it too. This one seems to be getting very good reviews. RT has it at 87% which is a lot higher than I expected so this is a definate must see this weekend for me.

 

[Aikouka]

For anyone going to see it, there's nothing at the end of the credits. Now if you haven't seen it, you probably don't want to read from here on...

Originally posted by: Queasy
That's pretty standard for trailers I think.

Eh, some aren't nearly so bad in my opinion. Also, it seems as they release more than one trailer, they show more and more of the plot. Like the Eagle Eye movie that's coming out ( on my birthday ). I saw the first trailer and it looked a little interesting but I didn't know too much and then they showed more and more with the second trailer (and also some of the same stuff from the first trailer).

!!!SPOILERS AFTER THIS POINT!!!







Well, I went and saw Hellboy 2 today and I think my feelin's from the trailer were about spot on... in my opinion, it was "alright." The biggest problem I had is how some of the characters just seemed so damn stupid. Prince Noada threatened to hurt his sister, Noala if they didn't give up the last piece... yet she mentioned earlier to Abe that they were linked. She could've also easily made it apparent that he cannot kill her or he would die too. This just came across as a big "duh?" to me and made their actions following it just seem more silly... especially when Abe is "the brains of the operation" (as Johann puts it). This kinda bothers me in manga as well... it's kinda like how the good guy just watches the bad guy charge up a move instead of actually thinking about it, "hey... I could just stop him and make this all easier." One of those "duh" moments.

There were some amusing moments in the movie, but for the most part the dialog was fairly dry.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
It may struggle a bit because of all the other action/superhero movies this summer, but I look forward to it and I imagine that since it's directed by Guillermo del Toro it should be good. RT has it at 87%, which is not too shabby at all.

I don't trust RT. I mean, how can you when they gave Talladega Nights a 72%?

 

[Modelworks]

Columbia actually turned it down so I guess we will see if they were right or wrong in doing so.

Just more than two years later, "Hellboy," starring Ron Perlman as the demon, hit screens. It cost around $60 million and made around $60 million. Even-steven.

Del Toro wanted to do a sequel but Columbia, which had a say in any follow-up under the terms of Revolution's Sony pact, wasn't interested. So del Toro busied himself with other projects, flirting with "Halo" at Universal and "Killing on Carnival Row" at New Line.

Not wanting to give up on "Hellboy II," Gordon urged Roth to pry the title out of Columbia's hands.

That set in motion a series of moves: Revolution owned the title but had to formally check whether the studio wanted to exercise its right to make a sequel. Since Columbia was uninterested, Roth asked permission to let Gordon take the project elsewhere. Columbia, after more meetings, eventually let the title go, thinking that any sequel would only enhance the value of the original "Hellboy."

None of the other studios were quick to bite, though. "It was not an immediate battle to get it," del Toro said.

The story would have ended right there and then if it weren't for one thing: "Pan's Labyrinth."

Del Toro's passion project began building buzz in mid-2006, and execs started jockeying for his next project. And what did he want to do? That sequel to "Hellboy."

"He was so dedicated to making a second movie," said a source close to the production. "If you wanted to be in business with Guillermo, you had to make that film."

Del Toro shrunk the budget to $85 million and circulated it again. This time, Universal -- especially eager to work with international filmmakers -- bit. The studio struck a first-look deal with del Toro and the new "Hellboy" wound up with a trio of owners: Revolution, which retained a small piece, and Gordon and Universal, which split the rest.

"We knew we were doing 'Hellboy II" after 'Pan' came out," one source close to both movies said. "Pan's" made a splash at the Toronto Film Festival before rolling out in December 2006.

The sequel set up shop in Hungary last summer and fall, taking advantage of the country's film rebate. Del Toro, in an unusual move, fought hard to shoot everything using only first unit photography.

"To have the scope we wanted, at 85, was a f***ing pain in the ass," del Toro said. "It meant really brutal hours, six-day weeks on a 130-day shoot, no second unit."

Del Toro and creator Mignola have an idea for a third movie, but that will depend on several factors, not least of which are boxoffice performance and del Toro's timetable: The filmmaker is spending the next four to five years working with Peter Jackson on the two "Hobbit" movies.

Summing up the experience of making the sequel, del Toro was his usual charming and blunt self.

"It was hard as f***," he said.