heel-toe driving....*slushbox drivers need not read hehe*

[Soybomb]

Okay somebody asked about double clutching, so now I get to ask about something a little more useful in day to day driving Do any of you ever heel-toe it in your spirited driving times? Its great once you master it I think

 

[Gizmology]

Please explain?

-Giz

 

[yakko]

Do it all the time.Spirited is the only way to go.Please use caution though.

 

[Soybomb]

Heel-Toe Technique
Read that link, it will tell you all about how to heel-toe and double clutch!

 

[jonnyGURU]

I know yakko knows what I mean when I say; "Is there any other way to drive????"

 

[yakko]

jonnyGURU,

There is heal toe and thewre is yes dear so I know you drive in more than one style.

Have you heard anything about bug jam this year?

 

[jonnyGURU]

The way I drive in the wife's Ford does not count!

Bug Jam: http://www.floridabugjam.com/

 

[CJM]

I do, although i can't say i've mastered it yet. Been work'n on it though. Got a question for you ...do you actually use your heel and your toe? I use the left and right sides of my foot. I've seen some race videos with a camera on the drivers foot and they really get diagonal across the pedals.

 

[Windogg]

The only person I know that has mastered the technique is my dad. Unbelievable cornering can be achieved if used correctly. He's tried to tech me but I'm holding off until I can find clunker to practice on.

Windogg

EDIT: Hmmmm.... brother's BMW 540i Sport in the garage......

 

[Whisper]

It's definately fun to do, but for most day to day driving I usually leave the break out altogether. I simply shift into a lower gear and let out the clutch very, very slightly thus engaging a little bit of engine breaking. All the while I've been keeping a teeny bit of pressure on the accelerator so as not to cause the car to lurch. I then put a bit more pressure on the gas pedal and let out on the clutch more. The end effect is a slight reduction in speed before the turn, the ability to keep a constant velocity through the harder steering area of the curve, and then the freedom to floor it on your way out...all without understeer or oversteer, yay. However, engine breaking isn't necessarily the healthiest thing for your clutch/car, though I haven't yet noticed any adverse effects. Though my car is an older one ('90 model year) and I don't go ballistic with my engine breaking...just do it occassionally when I want to see how quickly I can whip through a turn

 

[lupin]

That link article is weird. The way I understand it is the other way around.

Article:
Dbl clutch: Downshift + braking
Heel Toe: Downsiftt + braking + Matching rev

My understanding:
Dbl clutch: Downshift + matching rev
Heel Toe: Downshift + matching rev + braking


Personally, I don't think heel toe do sh!t in city driving. Dbl clutch might be useful ONLY for preserving your transmission.

and, sorry Windogg.
"Unbelievable cornering can be achieved if used correctly. "
Unbelievable?? Heel Toe doesn't do that much of a difference in cornering. Racing line, proper pressure transfer to the tires are more important.
I think your dad was able to achieve Unbelievable cornering b/c he knows his racing line and the car dynamics. Not b/c of heel and toe.
Heel and toe enables you to accelerate faster coming out of the turn. But overall your speed are most dependent on that two factors.

 

[Windogg]

lupin: You got it. It sucks when you type faster than than the gray matter can process.. Heal and toe let him keep the power in the sweet spot. During a test drive of a car he took it to a twisting portion of highway. The engine was making some of the sweetest sounds during heal and toe. I guess he really wasn't afraid of trashing the transmission since it was a demo car anyway.

Windogg

 

[lupin]

Somehow I re read my post and I sounded like an I-know-it-all person. Didn't want to make that impression.

The truth is,
I know how to dbl clutch, but heel and toe is still tough for me.

 

[BCYL]

Yes I do use heel-toe in normal driving... it is quite useful when you have to downshift for a turn while braking...

 

[thebestMAX]

Hey,

Good to hear from a DRIVER.

Have a 6 speed Trans Am and pedal placement makes for a little problem with heel and toe double clutching but then again so do my small feet. No need today unless you drive all out and with an old MG, Triumph, ect.

Have lots of friends with manual shift cars and I will drive them until my left leg or knee gives out. Coming soon, Im afraid.

Muscle cars forever!