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sandorski

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A Neuro Surgeon? Oh my!

Next we'll have Dentists debunking Evolution and Accountants Global Warming!!!
 

sandorski

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reality is simply our perception of reality

Sorta. There is an Objective Reality, our Subjective perceptions don't always understand the Objective though. Over time our view of the Objective becomes increasingly clear.
 

SlitheryDee

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A Neuro Surgeon? Oh my!

Next we'll have Dentists debunking Evolution and Accountants Global Warming!!!

What's awesome about this is that his profession should have given him unique insight into the real medical reasons behind what he saw in the coma.

Tell any doctor that you had meningitis which put you in a coma. Follow that up by saying that you saw weird things while in the coma, but leave out any religious connotations. What do you think they're going to attribute the dreams to? Every doctor, even the religious ones, are going to say it was the brain damage caused by the meningitis and tell you you're lucky that weird dreams was all you got.

Then for fun you could throw in the religious parts and see how many of them change their diagnosis. Even then, I'd say not very many would buy it. If the same thing happened to them nearly all the religious ones would believe it though. It's the stupid human tendency to think that since this event happened to "me", that means it has to be special and uniquely meaningful. It has to be, because it's "me", right?
 

mizzou

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Sorta. There is an Objective Reality, our Subjective perceptions don't always understand the Objective though. Over time our view of the Objective becomes increasingly clear.

I suppose we understand quite a bit...but only to the extent of our own senses. I would say there is much that goes on around us, which is vitally important to reality, which we don't sense and therefore have difficulty or cannot comprehend.
 

sandorski

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I suppose we understand quite a bit...but only to the extent of our own senses. I would say there is much that goes on around us, which is vitally important to reality, which we don't sense and therefore have difficulty or cannot comprehend.

Using Scientific tools, we can comprehend far beyond our natural Senses.
 

Puppies04

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He must be really special. He died and went to heaven and God was all like "No you must go back, your work on earth isn't done"
 

John Connor

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OK I have to ask people who are religious. I have always heard how there is a judgment day in the end times, if so then that would mean no one is in heaven or hell yet since judgment day hasnt happened right?


As a spiritual person myself I believe this is a time of great unfaithfulness. I read somewhere that Jesus warned that when that day comes you will know the time is soon when people have an abundance of knowledge. There will be a cult of personalty like Obola and everyone will follow him and the rest will be beamed up so to speak. Those that remain will be judged.

I think the end times are near. I may not see it, but I don't think people will see the year 3000, lets just put it that way. We will be lucky to see the next century.
 

MongGrel

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As a spiritual person myself I believe this is a time of great unfaithfulness. I read somewhere that Jesus warned that when that day comes you will know the time is soon when people have an abundance of knowledge. There will be a cult of personalty like Obola and everyone will follow him and the rest will be beamed up so to speak. Those that remain will be judged.

I think the end times are near. I may not see it, but I don't think people will see the year 3000, lets just put it that way. We will be lucky to see the next century.

People have been thinking that regularly for centuries.

Who is this Obola guy ?
 

Ruptga

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People have been thinking that regularly for centuries.

Who is this Obola guy ?

It's one of his pet names for the president. I haven't seen him use that one before, but that's just the way he "thinks." He's also a big fan of opinionated facts, and completely impervious to reason.

Also worth mentioning, there was a big hoopla at the end of 999, and again in 1999, all over nothing. We just love assigning meaning to arbitrary numbers and events.
 
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John Connor

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It's funny. I was out on the patio having a smoke and I seen another apple fall from our apple tree and I think about Sir Isaac Newton and then about physics and the celestial orbit of the plants and other bodies of matter. At the same time I was thinking this I heard the familiar church bells that I always hear in the morning on a Sunday. And I think to myself why can't people just not accept that the universe was created by a higher power, governed by laws?

I do have a very scientific mind, but I'm not going to be a fool and deny a creator.

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstein

Albert Einstein
 

MongGrel

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It's one of his pet names for the president. I haven't seen him use that one before, but that's just the way he "thinks." He's also a big fan of opinionated facts, and completely impervious to reason.

Also worth mentioning, there was a big hoopla at the end of 999, and again in 1999, all over nothing. We just love assigning meaning to arbitrary numbers and events.

Yeah was just joking a bit.

Wink, nudge.
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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It's funny. I was out on the patio having a smoke and I seen another apple fall from our apple tree and I think about Sir Isaac Newton and then about physics and the celestial orbit of the plants and other bodies of matter. At the same time I was thinking this I heard the familiar church bells that I always hear in the morning on a Sunday. And I think to myself why can't people just not accept that the universe was created by a higher power, governed by laws?

I do have a very scientific mind, but I'm not going to be a fool and deny a creator.

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstein

Albert Einstein

..but you will be a Fool and simply Believe there is one?

The point being, how do you discern what is True, if not by what is Evidential?
 

BudAshes

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It's funny. I was out on the patio having a smoke and I seen another apple fall from our apple tree and I think about Sir Isaac Newton and then about physics and the celestial orbit of the plants and other bodies of matter. At the same time I was thinking this I heard the familiar church bells that I always hear in the morning on a Sunday. And I think to myself why can't people just not accept that the universe was created by a higher power, governed by laws?

I do have a very scientific mind, but I'm not going to be a fool and deny a creator.

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstein

Albert Einstein

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." -Einstein
 

John Connor

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"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." -Einstein


"I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views." - Clark, Ronald W. (1971). Einstein: The Life and Times. New York: World Publishing Company, p. 425.
 

John Connor

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I grew to really hate that song. All the great songs the Byrds did, the local oldies station played the hell out of that one :^/


LOL :awe: I do like the Byrds. My fav is heart Full Of Soul.

Edit- Never mind, I was thinking of The Yardbirds. :awe: LMAO!
 
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BudAshes

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"I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views." - Clark, Ronald W. (1971). Einstein: The Life and Times. New York: World Publishing Company, p. 425.

I hope you aren't claiming Einstein believed in Jesus and the bible. But considering your stupidity knows no bounds I wouldn't be surprised.
 

John Connor

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He was a humanist and agnostic from what I have read. Don't judge who's behind your computer. Judging by your name calling I guess you are at a rank below me.
 

BudAshes

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He was a humanist and agnostic from what I have read. Don't judge who's behind your computer. Judging by your name calling I guess you are at a rank below me.

You are the one twisting Einstein's words to support your own inane beliefs. You are a fool. Calling you stupid is not name calling. It's just a fact. Everyone knows this.