Heating Issues w/ Hyper 212+

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vesper39

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I just finished my first build and have some questions about regarding correct temperatures.

I am using the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ with an Intel i5 760. Last night I checked the temps and my CPU read 75°C. I figured I must have messed up on seating my heatsink. If anyone else owns a Hyper 212+ do you know if the CENTER pin is supposed to be screwed in? I cannot seem to screw it in and my Heatsink can swivel about 2°. Is this fine?

Today I reseated it (still can swivel) and applied new thermal paste. These are my temps on idle:

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5835/tempsv.jpg

Should I be worried about the high AUX temp? I have no clue what that is. Does everything else look fine?

When I open up an RTS game, my GPU and CPU goes up as expected to around 55-60°C.


Also I plan on slightly OCing my CPU and graphics card. What are ideal temperatures to stay under for these parts when idle/full load?
 
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Absolution75

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Speedfan is pretty worthless as far as temperature readings.

Pretty sure my AUX reading has been over 100C. Its just not tuned correctly.


AKA Ignore it
 
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Use Real Temp or Core Temp.
Speedfan shows 10-20 degrees lower.

The following is generic advice, I am not familiar with 212+ specifically: Seems to me that if you can swivel the heatsink, it is not on tight enough. If it is not on tight enough the heat cannot pass move away from the CPU efficiently.
 
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The Hyper 212+ swivels even if you screw down every bolt to its limit, I know from personal experience. It's either a design flaw, poor build quality, or both since it isn't a high-end air cooler.
 
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wbynum

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Yep, both my Hyper 212+ units swivel with mild to moderate force. Not all that impressed with the Hyper 212+ other than it's cheap price.

One thing to note is applying the compound with the normal dot in the middle or line down the center does not work well with the Hyper 212+, at least for me. Even if you pre-fill the gaps between the heat pipes the compound still hits those gaps and follows them when clamping down the HSF. Best method I found for applying the compound is put a very thin coat on the cpu surface and the HSF. Just thick enough where you don't see the color of the underlying metal.

I keep thinking about replacing the Hyper 212+ with the Thermalright Silver Arrow. Just waiting for more places to carry it.
 
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LoneNinja

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I think the 212+ is a great cooler at the $20 I picked it up for from microcenter, and I would even pay $30 for it, but the $50 some places are charging it would be a rip off.

I installed it a few months ago, but if I recall correctly mine had a slight bit of swivel to it as well, than again so does the stock AMD copper heatsinks from my experience.

Personally due to never applying paste to something with direct contact heatpipes before, I ran the past down the copper heat pipes and called it good enough, whether it was the best method or not I couldn't tell you.

I would also recommend HWMonitor to check your temps, I used speedfan years ago and honestly I think it's absolute junk now. I'm sure real temp or core temp will work just fine too, just not software I am very familiar with.
 
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It's a really good $30 cooler for mild OC's. Nothing more.

Mine swivels a little bit, too.
 
Kantastic

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LoneNinja said:
I think the 212+ is a great cooler at the $20 I picked it up for from microcenter, and I would even pay $30 for it, but the $50 some places are charging it would be a rip off.

I installed it a few months ago, but if I recall correctly mine had a slight bit of swivel to it as well, than again so does the stock AMD copper heatsinks from my experience.

Personally due to never applying paste to something with direct contact heatpipes before, I ran the past down the copper heat pipes and called it good enough, whether it was the best method or not I couldn't tell you.

I would also recommend HWMonitor to check your temps, I used speedfan years ago and honestly I think it's absolute junk now. I'm sure real temp or core temp will work just fine too, just not software I am very familiar with.
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Actually, you were very, very close. For HDT sinks, the best method of applying TIM is to apply a line along half the heatpipe, for every heatpipe. It may seem excessive but keep in mind HDT sinks have gaps due to poor soldering.
 
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wbynum said:
I keep thinking about replacing the Hyper 212+ with the Thermalright Silver Arrow. Just waiting for more places to carry it.
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I don't think you'll be disappointed with that decision. The Silver Arrow is the best HSF on the market right now when only counting stock fans, and probably the second best when using add-on fans.
 
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wpcoe

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I'm using the CM212+ with an i5-760 -- the same config as the OP -- except that I used Arctic Silver 5, not that that makes a *huge* difference.

Using RealTemp as my current reporting software du jour, I'm currently showing core temps of 27-28° across the board at idle/light load while surfing the internet, with my modest overclock in my sig. Ambient room temp currently is 25°. Just now, I ran one iteration of Intel Burn Test at High setting and the highest core temps were 58-60°, which is in line with the OP's RTS game.

Regarding the CM212+: no, the center screw doesn't fasten to anything. I guess it's purpose is simply to keep the HSF centered. I used the CM212+ on a different board/CPU earlier and it always had a little swivel to it. However, for some reason, on this board/CPU combo, it's lock down tight. Go figure.
 
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MadScientist

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Tsavo

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MadScientist said:
I found this is the best method for applying TIM to the CM 212+.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.p...ask=view&id=170&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=5

Currently running 65C with LinX at full load and 60C with Prime95 Blend as per Core Temp with 2 fans.

I noticed the other day while cleaning my computer that my CM 212+ does swivel very slightly. No big deal as long as my temps are good. Just remember when installing it to tighten the screws in a crisscross pattern.
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What CPU, OC and volts?
 
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xboxist

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I use this cooler with AS5, using their recommended application method from their website. Mine can be swiveled with moderate pressure. I always thought that was odd, but temps have been great so I can't really question it. ~25 C idle, and haven't seen it pushed above 50 C when gaming.
 
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mortego

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I don't have the loose issue, though at first it did move when i place the HSF on the cpu but then you r suppose to align it so that the protruding knob on the square plate locks into the groove of the X securing plate. after tighten all four corners it doesn't swivel at all.

I'm getting idle of 34oC for my i5 760 whic i think is very good from the previous stock fan of 41oC.


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Core i5 760 @ 3.8Ghz ( Hyper 212 + )
MSI P55A-G55
2 x 2GB G.skills Ripjaws 12800CL7D
 
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astrosfan315

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Mine doesn't swivel any. I have it w/ arctic ceramique on an i5-750 OC'd to 3.6 and never get more than 50C gaming and right now it is at 25C on all cores.
 
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