Heat makes Pat Robertson a global warming "convert"

[Raiden256]

Originally posted by: straightalker
The phrase "Global Warming" is becoming a powerful buzzword. The reality is there are many cause and effect factors out there that are indeed effecting the weather. To say the problem is ALL due to increasingly higher levels of C02 gases is untrue.

The Pentagon says flat out that their goal is to be able to militarily control the weather by 2025. That's not tinfoil "theory". That's on the record as fact. They themselves said it and guess what, Russia has been even more aggressive in these same goals. So there's a war going on for control of our skies. As hostile opposing sides wrestle with nature to try to control it. That's fact not theory. We can often see the weird cloud formations caused by Scaler weather modification.

There's no "converting" to a Global Warming theory to be done. Rational people just need to gather as many facts as they can and speak out on this very important subject if and when a serious series of hot years and rising sea levels occurs. There is a trend towards hotter that we do genuinely need to be concerned about.

Sea levels are rising. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=17300

That's the one scientific fact that can be measured around the entire planet and not be fudged or faked by corrupt Governments. Future predictions using the World's fastest supercomputers that factor in a huge amount of past and present factual data and then use statistical sciences to guess the future are being used by some to prove Global Warming. There's that buzzword again.

However, ...remember this. Things get messy as soon as scientists start making guesses and politicians start interpreting those guesses. I say study the facts people. Watch the receeding glaciers everywhere and not just the two polar ice caps. Watch the sea levels. Measure actual polution levels and gases. Keep track of as much factualdata as you can. Study to total picture. Don't get wrapped up in theories. Theories are just tools used to form a framework out of scattered and incomplete facts in your brain. Like a detective who solves a complex crime using just clues.

In my opinion if mankind can control the weather by the year 2025, they can cool off the planet as well as make it hotter. If we the people had that power and not the extremely corrupt National Security State that transfers so much knowledge and invention out of our hands, ...we could deal with Global Warming. As it is called by Pat Robertson. We could deal with it all. Heat waves, drought, hurricanes/cyclones, ozone levels and sea levels. Agreed? Suppression of scientific discovery has to end.

Wow... First time back in P&N after a hiatus. I forgot how hilarious this place was!

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Forget the 10,000 scientist, it's hot out so it must be true! I love how religious zealots come around eventually, it's been like that since the dawn of man. Science makes a claim, years later the religious leaders and then their sheep accept it.

Maybe after it starts snowing with the next ice age, the global warming sheep will realize that warming trends follow.

 

[daveymark]

He was just feeling the burn from those thousand pound leg lifts

 

[WiseOldDude]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Nobody, except fellow nutjobs listen to Pat Robertson anymore.

That means that Bush must still be tuning this idiot in quite often then.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Todd33

Forget the 10,000 scientist, it's hot out so it must be true! I love how religious zealots come around eventually, it's been like that since the dawn of man. Science makes a claim, years later the religious leaders and then their sheep accept it.

Maybe after it starts snowing with the next ice age, the global warming sheep will realize that warming trends follow.

Only the ones with time machines.

:roll:

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: cker
I don't really care why he's decided to jump on the global-warming bandwagon -- just that he has. I've run into too many evangelical Christians to count that don't think any environmental issue is a problem... Never mind that idea than humans are supposed to be stewards of the world. The idea seems to be popular that "we're in the end times anyhow so why worry about it?" Everyone's so busy waiting for the apocalypse that they're helping usher in a different kind of apocalypse. If a evangelical religious leader wants to adopt a position that might help the environment instead of justifying ecological disruption, then I'm for it.

Perhaps the "Inconvenient Christians" (http://inconvenientchristians.org/) are getting some attention?

While I don't really concern myself with what Robertson believes, LOTS of people really do care what he thinks. Robertson has many, many followers and many more who will go along with his positions because of his perceived moral authority. Most of those people fall into the U.S. Republican 'base'. If Robertson holds this position then it might actually get some of the conservative right on board for some environmental reforms. Maybe. (hopefully)

Yup. Agree with Pat or not, his fans really need to come onboard to solving this issue. As Jesus said, " Those not against us are for us"

 

[Vic]

Saying that God is going to punish us for our sins has been the MO of fundaMental wackos like Pat for hundreds of years. This is nothing new. He's just joining up with the pseudoscience-as-entertainment groups that stole the fundaMental MO in the first place. "Live in fear! God is gonna punish us for our sins! Hallelujah! Send money!"

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Maybe after it starts snowing with the next ice age, the global warming sheep will realize that warming trends follow.

Yep. It'll happen a few centuries after human beings were roasted off the planet caused by their failure to deal with all the crap they dumped into the environment.

I've heard it said that cockroaches will survive that scorched earth. Do you expect to be here to see it? :roll:

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: jrenz

I love how religious zealots come around eventually,

Even religious types can be persuaded by bad science.

Grow up and read a book, then come talk to us.

I don't know what your 8th grade class just finished reading, but I base my beliefs on studies and reason, not just "because it's really hot out".

 

[Vic]

A hot summer does not global warming make. There's a big difference between weather and climate.

 

[TekDemon]

Originally posted by: Lazy8s
Now if only we could prove the claim was true.....

Let me be clear, I am NOT saying global warming isn't happening just that you can't prove it in the sense the politicans are talking about. The earth IS warming up, it IS a proven cycle, but there is almost NO evidence that we are making it worse.

You know, I see people post thoughts like this in various forums whenever people start to talk about global warming, but the thing is that even if it is in fact a cyclical thing, I don't really care to just sit here while the weather cycles into rampaging heat that melts the icecaps and then sends us into some ice age when carbon dioxide has built up too much.

If it's cyclical that doesn't really mean that we should just sit around while we get extincted like retards. Whether you believe that we're the cause of the warming or not, the point is that we should start figuring out how to control the warming, etc.

Unless of course, you really dislike all those coastal cities lol.

Last time an ice age rolled around most of the animals just up and died. Although I'm sure a portion of humans would be able to survive even through an ice age, it'd still mean death for billions of people. So this whole "let's just sit around because it's cyclical" thing is probably one of the silliest arguments ever.

So...what I'm saying is:
If we think it's us, and we stop doing what we think we're doing to cause global warming but it's still not really stopping then we'll know that we gotta do something else to stop it, and we should be working on that so that we don't need to have all our coastal cities under waterm and then have all our butts freeze to death and human civilization grind to a halt.

Maybe I should buy some land in a place where the weather will still be relatively nice based on the last ice age...seeing as how there's a good chance we'd be too stupid to be able to figure it out before it's too late. (No it's not for myself since I don't think it's gonna happen in my own lifetime, but you know, you gotta look after the great-grandkids lol)

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: jrenz

I love how religious zealots come around eventually,

Even religious types can be persuaded by bad science.

Thank you Steven Milloy.