heat issue with Xbox 360 cpu

mrgq912

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So microsoft says that 3 - 4 percent of the xbox 360 buyers are experienceing issues with heat, scratching of game disc, and freezing.

Now excessive heat seems to be plagueing all xbox 360 users, but only a select few are having secondary hardware problems because of the heat.

But this reminds me about a comment made by Jay Allard (that bald dude for microsoft). He was commenting on the PS3 console design having no ventilation holes. And he made this comment several times. So he obviously knew that the Xbox 360 had heat issues.

So my questions is why doesn't the PS3 have ventilation holes. I tried looking for pics but everything I found shows the console to be completely closed.

Does the cell processor run so cool/queit that it doesn't need ventilation?.

Have their been tests conducted on the heat/power characteristics of the Cell processor?

Also is the X360/PS3 going to release a 90nm version of the console?
 

mdchesne

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probally better cooling in general. maybe passive liquid cooling with heatpipes and such. ?
 

RichUK

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FYI with regards to the PS3's Cell processor, nobody has any other figures other then the theoretical performance figures produced from Sony, so nothing official. Furthermore the PS3 design is still a concept and has not been officially announced as the final PS3 design.

So to be fair we do not really know anything other than what can be quickly googled, aka very little, other than some already released theoretical specs and design, and that?s it.
 

jonnythan

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The heat problems with the 360 are the *power supply* overheating, not the console itself.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: mrgq912
So my questions is why doesn't the PS3 have ventilation holes. I tried looking for pics but everything I found shows the console to be completely closed.
All anyone (outside of Sony) has seen, are prototype mock-ups... Just models for display.

 

mrgq912

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Well I can't find the article to confirm this, but I read on an article at gamespot.com, in which it said, that the officials around sony are set on the console design and controller design.

And honestly with a spring 2006 launch date planned for japan, the design should be finalized by now. So I am guessing what we see is what we will get.

My comment is not to knock down sony, but just speculation at the power/heat charactersitics of the cell processor. Which I think will be good (compared to the X360 atleast).

Either way I won't buy an X360 until they switch to 90nm cpu design.


 

slatr

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How could Microsoft not have discovered this before shipment?

??
 

mrgq912

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To get the jump on sony, and have enough in stock for christmas 2005.

But to be fair only 3% of the consoles are having serious problems. And Every console from today till the end of time will have problems at launch. So we just have to wait, and let the uber rich and hardcore buyers be our beta testers.

Originally posted by: slatr
How could Microsoft not have discovered this before shipment?

??

 

jonnythan

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There are NO HEAT ISSUES WITH THE CONSOLE.

None.

The heat problems are with the EXTERNAL POWER SUPPLY.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: mrgq912
Well I can't find the article to confirm this, but I read on an article at gamespot.com, in which it said, that the officials around sony are set on the console design and controller design.
Sure, they are set on the design... But that doesn't mean it's EXACTLY the same at the plastic shell they showed at E3. Adding ventilation holes (or any other detail) doesn't change the design.