Hearts and minds campaign in full swing . . .
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Hey, why didn't the pentagon censor that to mislead more Americans into believing their soldiers are liberating iraq?
The only ppl the Iraqi's need liberation from are the US soldiers.
The only ppl the Iraqi's need liberation from are the US soldiers.
TEXT OF THE ARTICLE:
Shocking images shame US forces
By Yvonne Ridley and Lawrence Smallman
Monday 10 November 2003, 0:46 Makka Time, 21:46 GMT
A series of shocking pictures revealing US soldiers tying up Iraqi women and children in their own home has provoked international outrage.
The occupying forces have now come under renewed fire for their treatment of ordinary Iraqis as shown in the pictures published today by Aljazeera.net.
CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, is conducting an investigation and seeking advice before taking further action.
"This kind of image increases resentment of American troops in Iraq and can also play a major part in demoralising troops who are having to tie up small children.
"We are seeking to raise this issue further in the appropriate arena," said Washington CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper.
A spokesman for the London-based Islamic Observation Centre said the pictures showed a "complete disregard for the human rights of the Iraqi people".
He added: "A normal human being should be repulsed by the very idea of tying up children.
Carrying explosives
"You have to question the mental state of soldiers who are being forced to do this."
The IOC recently supplied pictures to Aljazeera.net showing US soldiers frisking a four-year-old boy in an Afghan village in Paktika as part of a military operation.
A senior officer justified the action at the time saying the child could have been carrying explosives. He added the security of US soldiers came first before any hearts and minds operation.
Those particular pictures provoked a huge, mixed response from Aljazeera users who inundated the website with feedback expressing concern.
This latest series of pictures was sent to US military headquarters Centcom in Florida for a comment. Major David Farlow warned Aljazeera.net not to publish the pictures on this site.
"It would be irresponsible. I can't second guess what has happened here without knowing all the facts but US forces operating in Iraq have to use the appropriate level of restraint to the mission.
"US soldiers will use minimum forces wherever possible," he added.
However John Rees, head of the British Stop The War Coalition, condemned the behaviour of the occupying forces.
Colonial occupiers
"This kind of behaviour produced a response which forced the British out of India and will undoubtedly force the British and Americans out of Iraq.
"The American and British forces in Iraq are showing all the worst traits of colonial occupying forces throughout history."
A spokeswoman for the Ministry of Defence in London said: "There are a range of options available to the commander on the ground based on the information received. Restraint depends on the situation."
However a senior military source said: "This sort of action would be highly unusual for British troops and would have to be authorised at the highest level.
"We just don't do things like that. We are working very closely with Iraqi people on the ground in Basra and prioritise in winning hearts and minds.
"We made a dreadful error earlier on in the campaign and lost some military police as a result. It was a tragedy which we have learned from and do not want to repeat."
Shocking images shame US forces
By Yvonne Ridley and Lawrence Smallman
Monday 10 November 2003, 0:46 Makka Time, 21:46 GMT
A series of shocking pictures revealing US soldiers tying up Iraqi women and children in their own home has provoked international outrage.
The occupying forces have now come under renewed fire for their treatment of ordinary Iraqis as shown in the pictures published today by Aljazeera.net.
CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, is conducting an investigation and seeking advice before taking further action.
"This kind of image increases resentment of American troops in Iraq and can also play a major part in demoralising troops who are having to tie up small children.
"We are seeking to raise this issue further in the appropriate arena," said Washington CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper.
A spokesman for the London-based Islamic Observation Centre said the pictures showed a "complete disregard for the human rights of the Iraqi people".
He added: "A normal human being should be repulsed by the very idea of tying up children.
Carrying explosives
"You have to question the mental state of soldiers who are being forced to do this."
The IOC recently supplied pictures to Aljazeera.net showing US soldiers frisking a four-year-old boy in an Afghan village in Paktika as part of a military operation.
A senior officer justified the action at the time saying the child could have been carrying explosives. He added the security of US soldiers came first before any hearts and minds operation.
Those particular pictures provoked a huge, mixed response from Aljazeera users who inundated the website with feedback expressing concern.
This latest series of pictures was sent to US military headquarters Centcom in Florida for a comment. Major David Farlow warned Aljazeera.net not to publish the pictures on this site.
"It would be irresponsible. I can't second guess what has happened here without knowing all the facts but US forces operating in Iraq have to use the appropriate level of restraint to the mission.
"US soldiers will use minimum forces wherever possible," he added.
However John Rees, head of the British Stop The War Coalition, condemned the behaviour of the occupying forces.
Colonial occupiers
"This kind of behaviour produced a response which forced the British out of India and will undoubtedly force the British and Americans out of Iraq.
"The American and British forces in Iraq are showing all the worst traits of colonial occupying forces throughout history."
A spokeswoman for the Ministry of Defence in London said: "There are a range of options available to the commander on the ground based on the information received. Restraint depends on the situation."
However a senior military source said: "This sort of action would be highly unusual for British troops and would have to be authorised at the highest level.
"We just don't do things like that. We are working very closely with Iraqi people on the ground in Basra and prioritise in winning hearts and minds.
"We made a dreadful error earlier on in the campaign and lost some military police as a result. It was a tragedy which we have learned from and do not want to repeat."
CaptnKirk
Lifer
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The use of children as transport devices for bombs is nothing new, and is a genuine threat.
Was a weekly thing in Siagon in the mid 60's to the 70's, send a small child into a group
gathering of American GI's and detonate them.
It's even easier now with the advent of cell phones as the triggering device.
The humiliation of these people in their home land is a violation of their culture
and everything about how they were raised. The BIG OFFENDER here is the
placing of a burlap bag on their heads when they are rounded up for transport.
It's supposed to inhibit their movement, and keep them anonymus, but their
kin folk know them as humiliated citizens at the hands of a foriegn occupying force.
This isn't Buirka-land like Afganistan is, respect goes further than other displays
of compassion, and lack of respact is met with a total lack of trust.
We invaded their country and expect them to speak to us in English ?
We have nowhere near the minimum number of transalaters needed to work with them
since we need to speak their language to show respect - and gain trust.
Was a weekly thing in Siagon in the mid 60's to the 70's, send a small child into a group
gathering of American GI's and detonate them.
It's even easier now with the advent of cell phones as the triggering device.
The humiliation of these people in their home land is a violation of their culture
and everything about how they were raised. The BIG OFFENDER here is the
placing of a burlap bag on their heads when they are rounded up for transport.
It's supposed to inhibit their movement, and keep them anonymus, but their
kin folk know them as humiliated citizens at the hands of a foriegn occupying force.
This isn't Buirka-land like Afganistan is, respect goes further than other displays
of compassion, and lack of respact is met with a total lack of trust.
We invaded their country and expect them to speak to us in English ?
We have nowhere near the minimum number of transalaters needed to work with them
since we need to speak their language to show respect - and gain trust.
The irony is that the whole reason we did it is a general lack of trust. If US soldiers can't trust them to behave while they complete there bussiness, there going to tie them up.
CaptnKirk
Lifer
- Jul 25, 2002
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So you think the answer is to just round up anyone and everyone,
bag their heads - and take them in for interrogation for any reason
just because they happen to live in a country that was invaded ?
You are driving down the road, and get stopped.
Those who stopped you don't speak your language.
You try to co-operate, but since you can't converse any attempt to communicate is futile,
all further attemps to converse are seen as hostile since you are getting frustrated.
At that time they cuff you, bag your head and physically force you into a vehicle,
helpless for all witnesses to see, and take you to where you have no idea, for questioning.
No matter how sweet and wonderful you are treated on your arrival at your destination, the damage has
been done to your psyche - and your impression of the occupying force is set for the rest of your life.
This culture has kept blood fueds alive for centuries, paybacks are hell, even if
avenging takes thousands of years - and that is still being played out there.
bag their heads - and take them in for interrogation for any reason
just because they happen to live in a country that was invaded ?
You are driving down the road, and get stopped.
Those who stopped you don't speak your language.
You try to co-operate, but since you can't converse any attempt to communicate is futile,
all further attemps to converse are seen as hostile since you are getting frustrated.
At that time they cuff you, bag your head and physically force you into a vehicle,
helpless for all witnesses to see, and take you to where you have no idea, for questioning.
No matter how sweet and wonderful you are treated on your arrival at your destination, the damage has
been done to your psyche - and your impression of the occupying force is set for the rest of your life.
This culture has kept blood fueds alive for centuries, paybacks are hell, even if
avenging takes thousands of years - and that is still being played out there.
Yo noob, don't quote the entire article . . . propaganda mouthpieces of the Middle East need ad revenue, too.
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