Hearing vowed on Bush's powers

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This could be good. Or it could be just more republican pre-election lip service.

Will congress and America allow king george to trample The Constitution, ignore the rule of law, and destroy the balance of power between the branches of government?

Time will tell.

Hearing vowed on Bush's powers

Senator questions bypassing of laws

By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | May 3, 2006

WASHINGTON -- The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, accusing the White House of a ''very blatant encroachment" on congressional authority, said yesterday he will hold an oversight hearing into President Bush's assertion that he has the power to bypass more than 750 laws enacted over the past five years.

''There is some need for some oversight by Congress to assert its authority here," Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania, said in an interview. ''What's the point of having a statute if . . . the president can cherry-pick what he likes and what he doesn't like?"

Specter said he plans to hold the hearing in June. He said he intends to call administration officials to explain and defend the president's claims of authority, as well to invite constitutional scholars to testify on whether Bush has overstepped the boundaries of his power.

The senator emphasized that his goal is ''to bring some light on the subject." Legal scholars say that, when confronted by a president encroaching on their power, Congress's options are limited. Lawmakers can call for hearings or cut the funds of a targeted program to apply political pressure, or take the more politically charged steps of censure or impeachment.

Specter's announcement followed a report in the Sunday Globe that Bush has quietly asserted the authority to ignore provisions in 750 bills he has signed -- about 1 in 10.

Over the past five years, Bush has stated that he can defy any statute that conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution. In many instances, Bush cited his role as head of the executive branch or as commander in chief to justify the exemption.

The statutes that Bush has asserted the right to override include numerous rules and regulations for the military, job protections for whistle-blowers who tell Congress about possible government wrongdoing, affirmative action requirements, and safeguards against political interference in federally funded research.

Bush made the claims in ''signing statements," official documents in which a president lays out his interpretation of a bill for the executive branch, creating guidelines to follow when it implements the law. The statements are filed without fanfare in the federal record, often following ceremonies in which the president made no mention of the objections he was about to raise in the bill, even as he signed it into law.

Dana Perino, a White House spokeswoman, said via e-mail that if Specter calls a hearing, ''by all means we will ensure he has the information he needs." She pointed out that other presidents dating to the 19th century have ''on occasion" issued statements that raise constitutional concerns about provisions in new laws.

But while previous presidents did occasionally challenge provisions in laws while signing them, legal scholars say, the frequency and breadth of Bush's use of that power are unprecedented.

Bush is also the first president in modern history who has never vetoed a bill, an act that gives public notice that he is rejecting a law and can be overridden by Congress. Instead, Bush has used signing statements to declare that he can bypass numerous provisions in new laws.

The statements attracted little attention in Congress or the media until recently, when Bush used them to reserve a right to bypass a new torture ban and new oversight provisions in the Patriot Act.

''The problem is that you have a statute, which Congress has passed, and then the signing statements negate that statute," Specter said. ''And there are more and more of them coming. If the president doesn't like something, he puts a signing statement on it."

Specter added: ''He put a signing statement on the Patriot Act. He put a signing statement on the torture issue. It's a very blatant encroachment on [Congress's constitutional] powers. If he doesn't like the bill, let him veto it."

It was during a Judiciary Committee oversight hearing on the FBI that Specter yesterday announced his intent to hold a hearing on Bush's legal authority. Another committee member, Senator Russ Feingold, Democrat of Wisconsin, also questioned Bush's assertions that he has the authority to give himself an exemption from certain laws.

''Unfortunately, the president's signing statement on the Patriot Act is hardly the first time that he has shown a disrespect for the rule of law," Feingold said. ''The Boston Globe reported on Sunday that the president has used signing statements to reserve the right to break the law more than 750 times."

Feingold is an outspoken critic of Bush's assertion that his wartime powers give him the authority to set aside laws. The senator has proposed censuring Bush over his domestic spying program, in which the president secretly authorized the military to wiretap Americans' phones without a warrant, bypassing a 1978 surveillance law.

At the hearing yesterday, Feingold pressed FBI director Robert Mueller to give assurances that the bureau would comply with provisions in the Patriot Act and to tell Congress how agents are using the law to search homes and secretly seize papers.

Mueller said he saw no reason that the bureau couldn't share that information with Congress. But he also said that he was bound to obey the administration, and declined to promise that he would ''go out there and fight" on behalf of Congress if Bush decided to override the Patriot Act's oversight provision and ordered the FBI not to brief Congress.

Feingold also said Bush's legal claims have cast a cloud over a host of rules and restrictions that Congress has passed, using its constitutional authority to regulate the executive branch of government.

''How can we know whether the government will comply with the new laws that we passed?" Feingold said. ''I'm not placing the blame on you, obviously, or your agents who work to protect this country every day, but how can we have any assurance that you or your agents have not received a secret directive from above requiring you to violate laws that we all think apply today?"

Mueller replied: ''I can assure with you with regard to the FBI that our actions would be taken according to appropriate legal authorities."

Specter said that challenging Bush's contention that he can ignore laws written by Congress should be a matter of institutional pride for lawmakers. He also connected Bush's defiance of laws to several Supreme Court decisions in which the justices ruled that Congress had not done enough research to justify a law.

''We're undergoing a tsunami here with the flood coming from the executive branch on one side and the judicial branch on the other," Specter said. ''There may as well soon not be a Congress. . . . And I think that most members don't understand what's happening."

 

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In other news, Bush asserts his ability to bypass the resolution of any congressional hearing on his ability to bypass laws enacted by congress.
 

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Originally posted by: Meuge
In other news, Bush asserts his ability to bypass the resolution of any congressional hearing on his ability to bypass laws enacted by congress.

I hope that congress and the American people grow a set and stop bush. There are signs that king george's time may finally be running out. ;)

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: 36 US House Reps Want Bush Impeachment Probe

By Matthew Cardinale, Editor and National Correspondent, Atlanta Progressive News (May 01, 2006)

(APN) ATLANTA -- 36 US House Representatives have signed on as sponsors or co-sponsors of H. Res 635, which would create a Select Committee to look into the grounds for recommending President Bush?s impeachment, Atlanta Progressive News has learned.

The two latest co-sponsors, as of Friday, were US Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL) and US Rep. Chaka Fattah (D-PA).

?For the House to impeach and the Senate to convict a President, the public must be fully informed and convinced by credible information that a President deserves impeachment. That means gathering the facts. Rep. Conyers' bill calls for setting up a select committee to gather information to see if there is any basis for impeachment - i.e., a violation of the Constitution - or if impeachment should even be considered. With that understanding I support H. Res. 635,? Congressman Jackson said in a statement released to Atlanta Progressive News.

Rep. Fattah?s Office was not able to provide comment in time for press, but was invited to send along comments to be added to the Atlanta Progressive News website when available.

"The Bush administration must be held accountable for the failures in their Iraq War policy. Congress has a Constitutional obligation to determine whether this disastrous Iraq policy is the result of deceit and deception or simply reckless incompetence. Providing the Congress and American people with the opportunity to seek the truth regarding the facts and the fabrications that led our nation into the Iraq War is why I am supporting the Conyers' resolution," US Rep. Betty McCollum, another recent co-sponsor, said in a statement prepared for Atlanta Progressive News.

An Atlanta Progressive News analysis has found that, interestingly, 29 of the 36 total co-sponsors are members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. However, only 29 of the 62 members of the Caucus have signed on.

Atlanta Progressive News is calling out the other 33 self-described progressives who have not signed on. They are Reps. Becerra, Bordallo, Corrine Brown, Sherrod Brown, Carson, Cristenson, Cleaver, Cummings, DeFazio, DeLauro, Evans, Frank, Grijalva, Gutierrez, Tubbs Jones, Kaptur, Kilpatrick, Kucinich, Lantos, Markey, McGovern, Miller, Holmes-Norton, Pastor, Rush, Serrano, Slaughter, Solis, Thompson, Udall, Watson, Watt, and Waxman.

As noted below, two of these Progressive Caucus members who have not signed on, are in fact two of the four Democrats on the House Rules Committee, meaning they have direct influence over this bill: Slaughter and McGovern.

In the US Senate, Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Tom Harkin (D-IA) are currently the two co-sponsors of US Senator Russ Feingold?s (D-WI) bill, S. Res 398, to censure President Bush.

?There has been massive support for House Resolution 635 from a very vigorous network of grassroots activists and people committed to holding the Bush Administration accountable for its widespread abuses of power,? US Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) said in a statement prepared for Atlanta Progressive News.

?The Atlanta Progressive News has reported regularly on this bill,? Conyers wrote in an article on his blog.

A spokesperson for Rep. Conyers noted the Congressman is continuing in his lobbying efforts for the bill, which was first introduced in December 2005, prior to so many recent additional shocking revelations about the actions of President Bush.

It was recently revealed, for one thing, that Bush himself authorized the leak of the identity of a CIA agent, endangering US security, in retaliation for the agent?s husband questioning the US?s faulty intelligence on Iraq?s nonexistent WMDs.

In another recent revelation, Bush was provided with evidence that the information he was propagating on Iraq was faulty.

Conyers?s spokesperson also concurred there continues to be some confusion among Members of US Congress who have not yet signed on to the bill about the content of the bill. Specifically, some members have not signed on because the media has not clearly reported that the bill is not a call for impeachment, nor an impeachment inquiry, but rather is a call for the creation of a committee that would look into the possible grounds for impeachment and could make recommendations.

Meanwhile, at least twelve (12) US cities, including Arcata, Berkeley, San Francisco, and Santa Cruz, each in California; Woodstock in New York; and Battleboro, Brookfield, Dummerston, Marlboro, Newfane, Putney, and Rockingham, each in Vermont, have passed resolutions calling for Bush?s impeachment, according to a running tally at www.impeachpac.org/resolutions.

In addition, the State Legislatures in California, Illinois, and Vermont are each considering impeachment resolutions, which, if passed, could fast track the impeachment issue to the US House.

Over 17% of US House Democrats now support the impeachment probe; over 8% of all US House Representatives now support the probe. In December 2005, there were 231 Republicans in the US House, 202 Democrats, 1 Independent, and 1 vacancy, a clerk for the US House of Representatives told Atlanta Progressive News.

The best represented states on H. Res 635 are California (8), New York (6), Illinois (3), Massachusetts (3), Minnesota (3), Georgia (2), and Wisconsin (2).

The current 36 total co-sponsors are Rep. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI), Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), Rep. Michael Capuano (D-MA), Rep. Lois Capps (D-CA), Rep. William Lacy Clay (D-MO), Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), Rep. Danny Davis (D-IL), Rep. Sam Farr (D-CA), Rep. Chaka Fattah (D-PA), Rep. Bob Filner (D-CA), Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY), Rep. Mike Honda (D-CA), Rep. Jackson, Jr., (D-IL), Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX), Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA), Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), Rep. Betty McCollum (D-MN), Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA), Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA), Rep. Gwen Moore (D-WI), Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), Rep. James Oberstar (D-MN), Rep. John Olver (D-MA), Rep. Major Owens (D-NY), Rep. Donald Payne (D-NJ), Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY), Rep. Martin Sabo (D-MN), Rep. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), Rep. Fortney Pete Stark (D-CA), Rep. John Tierney (D-MA), Rep. Nydia Velazquez (D-NY), Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-CA), and Rep. David Wu (D-OR).

?What a lot of activists group want is the next step, which is Articles of Impeachment. You don?t have to pass this type of bill first. I think there?s a fair chance that if the list of co-sponsors grows dramatically, Conyers and others will take that next step of introducing articles of impeachment,? David Swanson of ImpeachPAC told Atlanta Progressive News.

At least two members of Congress are prepared to sign Articles of Impeachment if they were to be introduced, sources tell Atlanta Progressive News. One of the members is US Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), whose office clarified earlier Associated Press reports, by saying Lewis would indeed sign such a bill, assuming that any bill of impeachment would of course be introduced as a result of a thorough process, such as one including the investigation called for in H. Res 635.

Dave Lindorff wrote in The Baltimore Chronicle that he and Barbara Olshansky (an attorney at The Center for Constitutional Rights) will reveal in an upcoming book that ?members of Congress?even firebrands like Maxine Waters (D-CA) and Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)?have been strong-armed behind the scenes by the Democratic National Committee not to introduce an impeachment bill in the House.?

Conyers?s bill was initially referred to the US House Rules Committee, which has not taken action. None of the US House Democrats on the Rules Committee have signed on as co-sponsors. The Ranking Democrat on the Committee is US Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY). Democratic members of the Committee are Alcee Hastings (D-FL), Doris Matsui (D-CA), and James McGovern (D-MA). Republicans currently outnumber Democrats on the committee by about a two-to-one ratio.

The US House Rules Committee would need to take action on H. Res 635 because it calls for the creation of a Select Committee, in other words the creation of a new committee that is not a standing committee, Jonathan Godfrey, Communications Director for US Rep. Conyers, told Atlanta Progressive News. Such a Committee would need to be staffed, Godfrey noted.

If the Democratic Party is able to retake the US House of Representatives, Rep. Conyers would become Chairman Conyers of the House Judiciary Committee, whereas he is currently the Ranking Democrat on the Committee. The Judiciary Committee would oversee any actual impeachment investigation.

If not acted on this session, the bill would have to be reintroduced next session. It is possible that a new bill could include new language regarding Bush's approval of illegal NSA domestic wiretapping.

For now, however, sources in Washington DC tell Atlanta Progressive News that H. Res 635 is a venue for coalition among members of Congress who are willing to consider impeachment for a variety of reasons.

Even though H. Res 635 does not specifically reference the NSA domestic wiretapping issue, some Members of US Congress have found the wiretapping issue to be a compelling reason to sign on as a co-sponsor, sources say.

In other words, why introduce separate legislation to address a single issue when momentum has been built with H. Res 635?

The thing about H. Res. 635 is, it deals with impeaching Bush over a cluster of issues from misleading the public to go to war, to authorizing torture. Wiretapping was not listed as one of the reasons to investigate the grounds for Bush's impeachment in the bill because the existence of the secret, illegal wiretapping had not come to light yet when the bill was being prepared.

US Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) withdrew her name from H. Res 635 at the end of January 2006, whereas she had been listed as a cosponsor throughout January 2006. Lofgren cited a clerical error for her name having been listed in the first place. Lofgren's Office told Atlanta Progressive News the Representative learned of her being listed as a co-sponsor after reading an exclusive article by Atlanta Progressive News issued January 01, 2006.

Lofgren, and 17 other Members of Congress, wrote to President Bush in February 2006 that they wanted the wiretapping issue to be pursued by a Special Counsel, which Lofgren considers a next step in a crucial investigation, seeing as how the Republicans have been stonewalling on necessary documents and testimony to determine if Bush?s domestic wiretapping program was legal.

H. Res 635 reads as its official title: "Creating a select committee to investigate the Administration's intent to go to war before congressional authorization, manipulation of pre-war intelligence, encouraging and countenancing torture, retaliating against critics, and to make recommendations regarding grounds for possible impeachment."

The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) also just released a book, Articles of Impeachment Against President Bush. The Center is extremely influential in high-profile court fights over issues such as wiretapping, the treatment of detainees by the US, and felon voting rights.

?We have the book, we are calling for the impeachment of the President, and we?re supporting Conyers?s resolution,? Bill Goodman, CCR Legal Director, told Atlanta Progressive News.

Rock music artist Neil Young has also released a song with the lyrics, ?Let?s impeach the President for lying...?

Atlanta Progressive News has provided near-exclusive?and during many times, exclusive?coverage of the progress of H. Res 635. We will continue to follow this story and any related developments.

king george is about as popular in America as the original king george.

The fall elections will tell if his reign suffers the abrupt and early termination it so fully deserves.

 

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Originally posted by: Meuge
In other news, Bush asserts his ability to bypass the resolution of any congressional hearing on his ability to bypass laws enacted by congress.


That's funny, sad, disturbing and rings far too close to true for comfort. :(
 

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Originally posted by: BBond
This could be good. Or it could be just more republican pre-election lip service.

Will congress and America allow king george to trample The Constitution, ignore the rule of law, and destroy the balance of power between the branches of government?

Time will tell.

It is GOP lipservice. Just like the travesty lobby reform bill that they passed in the House today. Just like the prescription drug nightmare that they passed in the middle of the night. Just like No Child Left Behind. Just like standing in front of St. Charles cathedral in New Orleans saying you are going to do whatever it takes to rebuild the city. Just like color coded terror alerts. Just like $100 gas rebates while ExxonMobil rapes the American public.

It is lies, misdirection and bad governing all the time with BushCo and his rubber stamp GOP Congress.

It will be enough to fool their diehard supporters, who are looking for a reason to get fooled. I don't think it is going to fool anybody else right now. Bush and the GOP gave us Iraq based on a bunch of lies. No one, besides the kool-aid drinkers are willing to buy anything they are selling anymore.


 

BBond

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Originally posted by: strummer
Originally posted by: BBond
This could be good. Or it could be just more republican pre-election lip service.

Will congress and America allow king george to trample The Constitution, ignore the rule of law, and destroy the balance of power between the branches of government?

Time will tell.

It is GOP lipservice. Just like the travesty lobby reform bill that they passed in the House today. Just like the prescription drug nightmare that they passed in the middle of the night. Just like No Child Left Behind. Just like standing in front of St. Charles cathedral in New Orleans saying you are going to do whatever it takes to rebuild the city. Just like color coded terror alerts. Just like $100 gas rebates while ExxonMobil rapes the American public.

It is lies, misdirection and bad governing all the time with BushCo and his rubber stamp GOP Congress.

It will be enough to fool their diehard supporters, who are looking for a reason to get fooled. I don't think it is going to fool anybody else right now. Bush and the GOP gave us Iraq based on a bunch of lies. No one, besides the kool-aid drinkers are willing to buy anything they are selling anymore.

Man, this is really sad. king george is prematurely leading America's funeral procession. he's burying us alive. he nailed our coffin shut securely with debt. Covered us with shovel full after shovel full of fascist dirt. Left us competing for our last few available breaths with illegal invaders.

But hey, he and his partners are making a fortune on our funeral.

And America is going to make an exquisite corpse.

 

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In other new Bush asserts his authority to ignore congressional resoluitions--yada yada argle bargle
drible burgel.

As usual GWB overplays his hand--with his poll rating falling below 1 in three--and a huge chance that a major scandal or policy incompetence can really send his remaining support into fewer than one in five terroritory in the near future. With an election coming up, the Republicans will soon have to decide to run with Bush or away from him.

So the real question may be---can Bush assert that he can ignore impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate?-----and so it was for Richard M. Nixon--------Bush may well be advised to beware of the ides of August.

Or put in term Bush may understand--he's a crusing for a brusing.--and an American Impeachment of Bush may be just what is required to regain America's lost world respect.
 

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Americans have exactly the president they deserve and aren't about to interfere with his will.

The garbage we elect is the garbage we are.

We feel worthless and act appropriately.

We have to because we will never see that this is how we are.

We manifest what is in the unconscious regardless of our thoughts and opinions that the stuff I say is bull. Hehe, the truth is and there is noting you can do.

Naturally, there is nothing really wrong with us but we refuse to believe it as we pretend it isn't true.
 

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Meuge
In other news, Bush asserts his ability to bypass the resolution of any congressional hearing on his ability to bypass laws enacted by congress.

I hope that congress and the American people grow a set and stop bush. There are signs that king george's time may finally be running out. ;)

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: 36 US House Reps Want Bush Impeachment Probe

By Matthew Cardinale, Editor and National Correspondent, Atlanta Progressive News (May 01, 2006)

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king george is about as popular in America as the original king george.

The fall elections will tell if his reign suffers the abrupt and early termination it so fully deserves.


:D:D:D

This is weird stuff. Hadn't heard about this before - so what, Bush gets a law, then quietly issues a statement saying "this is what applies to me"? Nice.

Next time you're pulled over for a traffic violation, just pull out your driver's manual, but mention that it's a signing statement - it just has certain parts blacked-out. Whatever you don't like just doesn't apply.
See how that flies.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Meuge
In other news, Bush asserts his ability to bypass the resolution of any congressional hearing on his ability to bypass laws enacted by congress.

I hope that congress and the American people grow a set and stop bush. There are signs that king george's time may finally be running out. ;)

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: 36 US House Reps Want Bush Impeachment Probe

By Matthew Cardinale, Editor and National Correspondent, Atlanta Progressive News (May 01, 2006)

--snip--

king george is about as popular in America as the original king george.

The fall elections will tell if his reign suffers the abrupt and early termination it so fully deserves.


:D:D:D

This is weird stuff. Hadn't heard about this before - so what, Bush gets a law, then quietly issues a statement saying "this is what applies to me"? Nice.

Next time you're pulled over for a traffic violation, just pull out your driver's manual, but mention that it's a signing statement - it just has certain parts blacked-out. Whatever you don't like just doesn't apply.
See how that flies.

Selective enforcement right from the top.

A nation of laws selectively enforced is a lawless nation.