Healthcare for Illegal Immigrants

txrandom

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What countries currently provide free health care under their national health plans to illegal immigrants?
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: txrandom
What countries currently provide free health care under their national health plans to illegal immigrants?

What country has so many people who ignore hundreds of billions of dollars scammed by big business abuse to fixate on trying to deny the poor illegal immigrants anything?
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: txrandom
What countries currently provide free health care under their national health plans to illegal immigrants?

who gives a shit?

(i think france does at least)
 

sandorski

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Most countries will provide a certain amount of Healthcare to Illegals. The US is kinda unique(AFAIK) in the sheer numbers of Illegals though.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: txrandom
What countries currently provide free health care under their national health plans to illegal immigrants?

What country has so many people who ignore hundreds of billions of dollars scammed by big business abuse to fixate on trying to deny the poor illegal immigrants anything?

so you can`t answer the question, thus you attempt to change the subject......rofl
 

Double Trouble

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I think illegals should be provided basic health care, then deported. Human compassion says you can't leave someone to die, whether they are here legally or not.... but after treating them, they need to be deported immediately.
 

fallout man

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Originally posted by: Double Trouble
I think illegals should be provided basic health care, then deported. Human compassion says you can't leave someone to die, whether they are here legally or not.... but after treating them, they need to be deported immediately.

:thumbsup:
 

Xellos2099

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If Obama is willing to do that it would have solve part of the rising health care cost problem.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Double Trouble
I think illegals should be provided basic health care, then deported. Human compassion says you can't leave someone to die, whether they are here legally or not.... but after treating them, they need to be deported immediately.

It is unlikely to occur in the US because Illegals are a Net Benefit. They certainly are allowed due to the Low Wages they are willing to Work for. Which is why neither Deportation nor Mass Amnesty really is a serious suggestion by either Party. Once in awhile there will be a Token Deportation or even a Public Attempt at Amnesty, but neither ever goes far.
 

Argo

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Double Trouble
I think illegals should be provided basic health care, then deported. Human compassion says you can't leave someone to die, whether they are here legally or not.... but after treating them, they need to be deported immediately.

It is unlikely to occur in the US because Illegals are a Net Benefit. They certainly are allowed due to the Low Wages they are willing to Work for. Which is why neither Deportation nor Mass Amnesty really is a serious suggestion by either Party. Once in awhile there will be a Token Deportation or even a Public Attempt at Amnesty, but neither ever goes far.

Agreed. Don't expect anything serious to be done about that anytime in the near future.
 

Modelworks

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I live in a rural area that has probably more illegals in the community than there are legal people. It is a small town , population 735. Here there are a lot of farmers that hire illegals and not because they work for less wages per hour. Talking to the illegals here they are not going to work for any less than minimum wage + a couple dollars per hour. That old idea that people hire them to do jobs that other people won't do is the past. The majority of the ones here make more per hour than the people working at places like fast food. They don't pay taxes, the farmers pay them cash at the end of the day. Instead the reason the farmers like them is because they don't have to do any paperwork, keep up with the wages, or worry about how many hours each person works per week. You pay someone for their work and never have to know their name.

Illegal mothers here get free health care and food, rent , etc already so healthcare bills will not change that. The USA has always had a soft spot for children and so when a mother and child show up at welfare they get the gold card for expenses. The mothers tell them the father is unknown/no idea where he is , and usually the fathers will all stay together at one home, working during the day and visiting their families when not working. I even heard of one case where the father was in the home when the social worker visited and the women said it was her brother. That worked until their son ran up to him yelling papa .


There is no easy solution. There are many hard working illegals. But there also many that have learned how to abuse the system.



 

txrandom

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: txrandom
What countries currently provide free health care under their national health plans to illegal immigrants?

What country has so many people who ignore hundreds of billions of dollars scammed by big business abuse to fixate on trying to deny the poor illegal immigrants anything?

What does that have to do with the question? Are you assuming I'm conservative?

Good responses otherwise.
 

Xellos2099

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Maybe for the country to get out of its economical crisis, we need to become cold hearted for a change.
 

LunarRay

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Used to be they'd arrest Illegal Aliens and when so disposed they'd receive normal medical care here there and everywhere there is humanitarian treatment of people.
 

ZeGermans

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Originally posted by: Xellos2099
Maybe for the country to get out of its economical crisis, we need to become cold hearted for a change.

Nothing brings out racism like a recession
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Xellos2099
Maybe for the country to get out of its economical crisis, we need to become cold hearted for a change.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that your Cold-Heartedness has nothing to do with the Recession.
 

TheSlamma

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: txrandom
What countries currently provide free health care under their national health plans to illegal immigrants?

who gives a shit?

(i think france does at least)
The OP does. That's the purpose of a question.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: Xellos2099
Maybe for the country to get out of its economical crisis, we need to become cold hearted for a change.

Nothing brings out racism like a recession

Of course, when someone disagrees with your position, let's use the classic fallback of branding them a racist!
 

IndyColtsFan

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Xellos2099
Maybe for the country to get out of its economical crisis, we need to become cold hearted for a change.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that your Cold-Heartedness has nothing to do with the Recession.

Why should we provide free health care to illegal immigrants?
 

nixium

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Originally posted by: blanghorst
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Xellos2099
Maybe for the country to get out of its economical crisis, we need to become cold hearted for a change.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that your Cold-Heartedness has nothing to do with the Recession.

Why should we provide free health care to illegal immigrants?

Because they're human first, and illegal second. And I'd like to think unlike the third world, we wouldn't turn away people from the emergency department because they can't pay.

Of course, this doesn't mean that they get to use this as their "insurance plan" treat them, but deport them.